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A Way To Stop Ebola Discovered!

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posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 04:16 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: nightlight7
Simple? I don't think so. Is it really "simple" to stop people who want to come to the US without legal and valid documentation?


You don't need to stop all 100%. The current index case would have been stopped with the simplest of bans. For people to fly to Mexico or Canada, to then illegally cross border, may let in few, but it will slow them down, enough for symptoms to kick in and take out few more. How easy is for a Liberian, a non-Spanish speaking foreigner, short on cash, to get to Mexico to arrange for illegal crossing. Try doing it sometimes, go to foreign country, without speaking language and find reliable people that will do something illegal for you. Not easy, and it also will help eliminate few more left in the Mexican dumps somewhere.

In any case, it is matter of numbers and odds. If you had to play Russian roulette, would you pick a game with odds of 99 live bullets per hundred or game with 1 live bullet per hundred, or would you say as you are arguing now, that it doesn't matter, you shouldn't pick 1 live bullet per hundred, since you can't prevent all live bullets.


Besides mandatory vaccinations
There's a vaccine for ebola? That would seem to be big news. I hadnt' heard.

If this spins into a major epidemic here, they will use it to empower public "health" bureaucracies to force vaccinations and other measures on everyone, incrementally growing to dozens of vaccines for anything they wish to "protect" you against, from VDs to flu, as they do it with newborns for VDs, children & lots of medical staff now. Ebola would be just a foot in the door they need, since bureaucracies & rent seeking big industries are masters of incrementally expanding such powers over several years (as they did with domestic spying, TSA, war on [some] drugs, war on raw milk, war on raw walnuts, war on natural remedies and medicinal plants such as tobacco, war on unlicensed lemonade stands, forcible medication of your potential cavities via water supply,... etc).




posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 07:44 AM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Phage

That's not how it works. People like doctors and nurses can come in and out and other people who bring aid to the areas.

When they come out they are closely monitored.
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It's hard to believe people can't understand the concept that medical people could be allowed travel during restrictions.

Either pure ignorance or pure propaganda, take a pick.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: Wildmanimal

Thanks for the replies, Wildmanimal. This made me morning, too.


Yes, in fact that was tried in the middle ages.
It actually worked quite well ...
until infected bodies were catapulted
over the walls.


Ever see Monty Python and the Holy Grail? That scene where the French was catapulting stuff at the English was over the top.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 09:38 AM
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Its all a nice show.....while Obama gets in a round of golf.....

Come on really? The excuses they use to keep the planes going are just insane....I'm just an average american and I know better!!

There's more to all this insanity train wreck that will be soon approaching.

Have to really pay attention to EVERYTHING and read between the corrupt lines to find some answers.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 01:37 PM
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Is Barack Obama completely insane? By not instituting an immediate ban on all non-essential travel between the United States and West Africa, he is putting the lives of more than 300 million Americans at risk. Anyone with a shred of common sense knows that you keep more people from getting sick by keeping the sick people away from the healthy people. Because the Ebola outbreaks in Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone are raging out of control, it is extremely difficult to tell who is carrying Ebola and who is not carrying Ebola. Therefore we need to keep everyone from those countries away until those outbreaks subside. If Barack Obama had established an Ebola travel ban a month or two ago like he should have done, Thomas Eric Duncan would never have entered the United States, and we would not have two Texas nurses infected with the virus. But because Barack Obama did not do his job, now we have a new Ebola scare popping up somewhere in the country almost hourly. If this outbreak eventually evolves into a full-blown pandemic, we will know who to blame.



"Will an Ebola travel ban work?"



It has worked in Africa. Even as the outbreaks in Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone have spread like wildfire, the nations immediately bordering them are doing just fine. And there is one primary reasonwhy this is the case… Ivory Coast, Guinea-Bissau and Senegal, all of which share borders with at least one of the three most affected countries, have closed those borders.
www.infowars.com...



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 06:29 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TinfoilTP



Unless your next argument is for stowaways sneaking onboard giant shipping container vessels I don't see how a blockade would not stop passenger ships from leaving Liberia.

You think people don't stowaway on freighters? Are you going also police the activities of the seaman while they are in port? Ensure that they don't go ashore? Do you really think you are talking practically? And again, under what authority? The navy is going to set up shop in Freeport because they say so?

www.captainmcd.com...


So a modern quarantine is impossible. Nobody has any authority, leaders have no will, and economies are more important than lives.
We are doomed.

Thanks for the doom porn confirmation.

IMHO, quarantining countries, continents is impossible given the interconnectedness of modern society. We are not there yet. In order to be able to quarantine such, the whole world's viewpoint of how economy, societal relationships work will first have to change. In other words, the whole world will have to be reworked and remade- to allow the successful quarantining mass populations from the successful infiltration of segments from other mass populations.
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posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 07:00 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
How well has that "stopped ebola?" Seems to still be happening.

The only way to prevent an epidemic from becoming pandemic is at its source.
An epidemic must be dealt with at its source.


You're absolutely correct. So lets keep the those people in place at 'the source' and fight it there.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 07:17 PM
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The bordering third world countries have closed the borders doing 90% of the work already, it is the lack of shutting the ports and airstrips that is allowing it to spread.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

the nations immediately bordering them are doing just fine. And there is one primary reasonwhy this is the case… Ivory Coast, Guinea-Bissau and Senegal, all of which share borders with at least one of the three most affected countries, have closed those borders.
The primary reason is that ebola is not as horribly contagious as Alex would like you to believe.

Ivory Coast is reopening its borders.

"When Ebola first broke out, people got panicked," he said. "Obviously we rushed to make certain decisions. Now that everything is under control - there is no case of Ebola in Cote D'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) - I have decided that next week we will lift the suspension of flights and the maritime suspension."

allafrica.com...

Kenya Airways is resuming flights between Liberia and other African countries.

Relief is on the way for travelers out of Liberia and Sierra Leone looking to book a flight to neighboring Ghana, Nigeria and other neighboring states. FrontPageAfrica has learned that the East African airliner, Kenyan Airways is poised to be the second airline to resume flights to Ebola-stricken Liberia.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP




The bordering third world countries have closed the borders doing 90% of the work already, it is the lack of shutting the ports and airstrips that is allowing it to spread.

Where has the epidemic spread to?



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 07:48 PM
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a reply to: Phage

That's right at its source. Doing everything possible to contain it at it's source, so that it can be stopped at its source, otherwise you facilitate the development of more sources that have to be contained.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: NoAngel2u
Stopping air travel does nothing to address the epidemic. It hinders efforts to do so.

How far has the epidemic spread, in spite of no restrictions on air travel?



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: roadgravel

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Phage

That's not how it works. People like doctors and nurses can come in and out and other people who bring aid to the areas.

When they come out they are closely monitored.
...


It's hard to believe people can't understand the concept that medical people could be allowed travel during restrictions.

Either pure ignorance or pure propaganda, take a pick.

Yep. I know what you mean, I think. Like let nurses go to Ohio or go on a cruise - just because they are medical personnel? What a system. If only it were true.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 10:12 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: badgerprints




You really don't get it. It's about preventing EVERY VECTOR POSSIBLE from getting in and KILLING YOU.

Oh, I get it.
I get that there is no way of "preventing EVERY VECTOR POSSIBLE from getting in."

I get that the fact that Thomas Duncan did get in is not "KILLING ME."

I get that the best way to protect us is to "stop ebola" is by doing everything possible to control the epidemic at its source.


Well it might not be killing you, but is sure as he'll might kill a couple of nurses.

There's no denying the possibility of someone with ebola still getting here, but it certainly would decrease the chances.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 10:15 PM
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a reply to: NoAngel2u




Well it might not be killing you, but is sure as he'll might kill a couple of nurses.

Yes. Health care workers who were heavily exposed to an infected person and that person's bodily fluids.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: NoAngel2u
Stopping air travel does nothing to address the epidemic. It hinders efforts to do so.

How far has the epidemic spread, in spite of no restrictions on air travel?


How far? About 6k miles, give or take.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 10:19 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Health care workers that would not have been exposed ,and subsequently exposed others, if Mr Duncan had not been allowed to travel.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 10:22 PM
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originally posted by: NoAngel2u

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: NoAngel2u
Stopping air travel does nothing to address the epidemic. It hinders efforts to do so.

How far has the epidemic spread, in spite of no restrictions on air travel?


How far? About 6k miles, give or take.

Really? Two people is an epidemic?



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 10:24 PM
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originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: NoAngel2u

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: NoAngel2u
Stopping air travel does nothing to address the epidemic. It hinders efforts to do so.

How far has the epidemic spread, in spite of no restrictions on air travel?


How far? About 6k miles, give or take.

Really? Two people is an epidemic?

No, but 9000 is.
The two people in question are just outliers.

What's up?
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posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 10:27 PM
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originally posted by: NoAngel2u
a reply to: Phage

Health care workers that would not have been exposed ,and subsequently exposed others, if Mr Duncan had not been allowed to travel.


How can we prevent people from leaving their own countries? We sure as hell aren't very good at preventing people from entering ours. Stopping air travel from the region will not "stop ebola."
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