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Has God exhausted itself (using the human experience) as its main source of self expression

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posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 03:21 AM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

I have to applaud you for writing the deepest thread title I've seen in a long, long time.


If you're concept is correct, God is as much in search of something as we humans are. This is evident in the way the 'expressions' (us) of God are so prone to mistakes as much as successes. If we extend that concept, it also suggests that God suffers from the same doubts as we do and feels the same degree of optimism. In that light, God and we 'expressions' may continue into the future for as long as it takes God to find satisfaction.




posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 03:30 AM
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originally posted by: bludragin
a reply to: veteranhumanbeing

Glad you found my comment helpful. Another thought: For the purposes of your post, would you equate "God" with "Nature"? I ask because IMHO Mother Nature will one day shake humanity off her back like a dog shaking off fleas. And the Earth, and all life on it, will be all the better for it. Might this apply to your OP query in some fashion?

Absolutely; a 'god' concept does describe all aspects of 'nature' or all things involving flora/fauna or that which is evolving. I am of the opinion that Earth as a being is in the process of doing exactly as you say; shaking off the fleas. Here is the sadness, it doesn't want to but humanity is killing it's soul (with no regard to understanding its beingness as creator/provider/nurturer). No one has ever promised EITHER that this Earth is constant and will not rebel eventually(even as loving and provisional as it is) has its own limits; (sans the human) its major project; protected and provided for. I think about the others; the insects, (bees) animal life of incredible variation) and such that may perish because of the human egotism involved. This place is a living library non existent anywhere else; but I understand Earth will and can take only so much abuse.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 04:31 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: veteranhumanbeing

I have to applaud you for writing the deepest thread title I've seen in a long, long time.


If you're concept is correct, God is as much in search of something as we humans are. This is evident in the way the 'expressions' (us) of God are so prone to mistakes as much as successes. If we extend that concept, it also suggests that God suffers from the same doubts as we do and feels the same degree of optimism. In that light, God and we 'expressions' may continue into the future for as long as it takes God to find satisfaction.

Thank you Kandinsky for your kind reply. I'm as certain as 'god' is that it is looking for the same answers I am (we are just approaching it from opposite ends). There is no mistaking that 'god' is not exactly on top of its game (sans us to be the guinea pigs for its missteps, misdeeds and general F-ups). Doubt you say? Oh we are its harbringers; or instruments of the original "HOWL or YELP;...HELP" as it watches in amusement (this is a game we play) to see if we GET IT. I know IT has a sense of humor; (at our or its expense) because it must laugh at itself (all good teachers, even if non existant do not take themselves seriously). My only wish is 'god' doesn't become so bored with itself he quashes the experiment without digitizing the whole mess it created (It's own fault or triumph; our creation); if not for US it wouldn't know it existed. Why; because we purely upon faith alone tell it so (I would add hey, we all dreamt you into existence). Give all creation history rights to Pixar Studios.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 04:44 AM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

Thanks for posting such interesting thoughts.



This place is a living library non existent anywhere else; but I understand Earth will and can take only so much abuse.


As far as we know, it's the only place in town. The only known intelligent life for some dozens of light years and we treat the place like a teenager treats their bedroom...expecting the parent to keep cleaning away and bringing the food. The profound value of LIFE might be appreciated more if we didn't take it so much for granted.



My only wish is 'god' doesn't become so bored with itself he quashes the experiment without digitizing the whole mess it created (It's own fault or triumph; our creation); if not for US it wouldn't know it existed.


I truly hope and expect that there are other expressions out there and maybe some of them are more enlightening? If a God was limited to this one sphere, like you wonder, yeah, the new experiences are probably few and far between.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 05:40 AM
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Humans are always thinking up new experiences to witness for God. New art is created, New songs are sung, new stories are written.
It is all of our jobs to make sure we keep experiencing as much as possible for the God energy. We must come to the realization that it is our minds that create this world that the power to make any existence possible lies within each and every one of us. That God lives only through us and that that same omnipotence is who we really are.
Create a beautiful world in thought and it will be expressed in reality. reply to: vethumanbeing



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 05:46 AM
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There is no need for greed when the universal energy is unending and abundant. It's the neglect of the teachers that don't tell everyone you are God the great I am and as such can create what ever life what ever reality you desire. a reply to: tinkortwim



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 05:51 AM
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The truth will be so much stranger than fiction when we finally get there. reply to: Riffrafter


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posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 05:54 AM
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originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: veteranhumanbeing


Kandinsky: Thanks for posting such interesting thoughts.

Thank you for taking the namesake of a naive Russian Visionary Painter.


Vethumanbeing:
This place is a living library non existent anywhere else; but I understand Earth will and can take only so much abuse.



Kandinsky: As far as we know, it's the only place in town. The only known intelligent life for some dozens of light years and we treat the place like a teenager treats their bedroom...expecting the parent to keep cleaning away and bringing the food. The profound value of LIFE might be appreciated more if we didn't take it so much for granted.

This lone earth is the BIG SHOW, a three ringer-- only one in town; this milk drenched galaxy 3D biggest top circus EVER. Trained live species, clowns, popcorn. Who does the clean up after every performance? No one? Hello? Why is life so devalued; the strange thing is its existing byproduct (human waste) is a major causal for disease. The industrial revolution destroyed all reverence for the sacristy of this planet. The teenagers never grew up. It is shocking to me that humans do not understand the Earth WANTS TO BE HERE to provide; but cannot; NOW it cares nothing for you as you have abused it in an unforgivable manner and is demonstrating its final showdowns.


vethumanbeing:
My only wish is 'god' doesn't become so bored with itself he quashes the experiment without digitizing the whole mess it created (It's own fault or triumph; our creation); if not for US it wouldn't know it existed.



Kandinsky: I truly hope and expect that there are other expressions out there and maybe some of them are more enlightening? If a God was limited to this one sphere, like you wonder, yeah, the new experiences are probably few and far between.

This is the Big Show; the 3D gem (ANIMATED heavy matter) does not exist anywhere else. "Ticket please" to become a human. "Lost yours, you will have to wait eons son; get to the back of the line".



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 06:19 AM
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originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
Humans are always thinking up new experiences to witness for God. New art is created, New songs are sung, new stories are written.
It is all of our jobs to make sure we keep experiencing as much as possible for the God energy. We must come to the realization that it is our minds that create this world that the power to make any existence possible lies within each and every one of us. That God lives only through us and that that same omnipotence is who we really are.
Create a beautiful world in thought and it will be expressed in reality. reply to: vethumanbeing


Oh yes AutumnWitch657; we do witness for 'god' IT OUR JOB. OR our "JOB" albatross, Lot and sand daughters. We are a creative bunch are we not; look at music, art forms, we recreate something every decade, expressionism becomes neo-expressionism. Music builds upon the past corner stones; humans are the most inventive wily and fun beings EVER (as we are tireless re-inventors). The reason we can do this is we have the capacity for imagination; can invent re-tool or change/derail old archetypes (there are 22) snoosers that really have to go.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 06:38 AM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing
Lets say what you understand as God is just a field of energy, strong weak forces in expression; and informationally is made up of ones and zeros (this we understand). .............


Vet with this theory you need to change your signature to "God is a joke" and no one is laughing.If God is so feeble as to be ANYTHING like that the very last thing they are is GOD.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 06:41 AM
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There is a reason that music and art illicit emotional responses in humans. It's s that very energy of human emotion where God gets to experience itself. People think the mind is in the head in the brain but we feel emotion in our center. In the belly mostly. Our bodies and our minds are part of the energy of the universe. When certain religions or new schools of thought claim we are one it is a profound truth. We are the universe and all of it exists within us. In the very atoms that make up the matter that is humankind.. . Even if we are not certain of the existence of God it's smarter to believe than not to. Just in case ya know?eply to: vethumanbeing



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 07:00 AM
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Why? God can't hold up a giant cosmic mirror and observe itself. It observes itself through the human experience. Virtues and sin are equal and God doesn't have a preference it just wants to experience itself. Since all of human emotion is from our minds it is all from God. There is no good or bad. There is however love. A very powerful creative force. Since we are the expressions of God we are all important and our experiences which we create are all ok with God. He even loves Ted Bundy and Charles Manson.
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posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 07:16 AM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

I think it would be more reasonable to ask why does humanity continue their destructive ways when there are plenty of alternatives right in front of them. Why do we continue to use resources such as fossil fuels and coal, when solar has been shown, by Germany, to work more effectively, for example? The list goes on.
Anyway humanity wishes to slice it, it is its own worst enemy. It can blame God, the devil, nature, whatever it wishes to blame. However, at the end of the day, when all is said and done, we have met the enemy and it is us.

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posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 07:39 AM
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originally posted by: Rex282
originally posted by: veteranhumanbeing

VHB: Lets say what you understand as God is just a field of energy, strong weak forces in expression; and informationally is made up of ones and zeros (this we understand).



Rex282: Vet with this theory you need to change your signature to "God is a joke" and no one is laughing.If God is so feeble as to be ANYTHING like that the very last thing they are is GOD.

I thought my signature left 360 degrees of doubt or truth regarding my sincere "apology" to ALL (oh regarding those question and answer sessions NOT MINE). I never stated "god" was to be taken seriously; really, does IT by ITSELF think its so viable NO (as is so hidden for all time (for a reason) and probably not EVER going to reveal itself anytime soon). YOU HAVE FRIGHTENNED IT OFF! As to your suggestion; (why not as God itself) if God is a Joke, so you also are not the same; as you are ITS perfected child. Can I not look in the mirror and laugh at what I know to be my creator STARING BACK AT ME, without making the comment "WELL,WHO ARE YOU?".
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posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 08:22 AM
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If one percent of the things I can imagine that have yet to be born into reality can come into being, then there is yet a purpose for continued experience in this physical form. If it is an illusion, then I guess it is time for it to end. Ultimately, there is no reason to build your house on less than sand.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: Nechash
a reply to: veteranhumanbeing
If one percent of the things I can imagine that have yet to be born into reality can come into being, then there is yet a purpose for continued experience in this physical form. If it is an illusion, then I guess it is time for it to end. Ultimately, there is no reason to build your house on less than sand.

Great observation Nechash; Over the course of human history 1 percent is frightening (Roman Rule); if came to fruition (I think we will have dispatched ourselves before we meted out 5 percent). This world is an illusion; it always has been a 'school' for advanced learning (the human in a 3D form). Crazytime workings now; but true. My thought is? hey there GOD; don't be so bored that we will not as YOUR OWN CREATION continue to plug your existance; are we not capable to astound or surprise you; seriously IPHONE 7 will be even bigger (it will look like a 5x7 inch recipe card; soon it will be as big as the original Ipad). I don't want the experiment to end possibles; but what is the alternative; even "Breaking Bad" had an end. I suppose if we had the scripted beginning to the story of the human and its relationship to 'god' would have helped garner some emmys (not that there was ever a God Comedy or Tragedy Category) could write a better ending.
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posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 11:31 AM
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I was shown in a dream by the Spirits of the Horse, Whale, and Dolphin that most of humanity will be wiped off the face of the earth within 46 years. And they are very, very glad...



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Lets say what you understand as God is just a field of energy, strong weak forces in expression; and informationally is made up of ones and zeros (this we understand).


Yeah!, this we understand YaY!

….wait a minute…(needle scratches the record shcwthrrrrr, followed by dead silence)

Waduya mean “this we understand”… are you speaking for all of us…lol

If God is just a field of energy strong and weak etc, then God’s should be sprouting up all over the place, even in your household Washing Machines and Micro Waves etc…

Picture the first one’s and zero’s in a vacuum; now surely those lowly ones and zeros, didn’t just organise themselves into Godhood by themselves, did they…? I like to think God is the stuff between the gaps, the stuff which organises, and that lies between the 1s and 0s etc…

Anyway, moving onto your main question…




Originally posted by vethumanbeing
We as humans are its expression; in the attempt to know its own being, allowing good and evil to thrive in an environment of non-judgment.


But there is judgment, it’s called the “karmic Cycle/Law”, And Evil has to exist for freewill to be completely present. The ideal state is to have free will (which includes evil being present) but where people choose to live in the good i.e. in light and truth. It’s the Perfection within the imperfection…




Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Is there enough of a future for us that "God" would continue to be interested (in ITSELF as us). Not a fatalist but come on; where is the tipping point when mankind joins the lemmings. Will mankind ever get another chance, perhaps in an alternate dimensional universe?
Is there anything new that "God" is waiting for that we have yet to invent? I think its waiting for itself to respond.


It’s just like 3NL1GHT3N3D1 said; you will “reboot” and experience another realm/world experience, within Gods Kingdom. But first you will go back to your higher self (the real you) and there, with Gods guidance, you will decide/be directed to which experience you wish/need to enter next, with the HF’s guidance of course…

Jesus said “we are gods” and we are, as our higher selves…Also the reboot is just a figure of speech from my perspective (not sure how 3NL1GHT3N3D1 meant it exactly)…although it fits nicely for this purpose.

When you go on slide/ride, you experience the ride in the moment, you have no need for remembering trigonometry, or for how many seconds there are in a minute etc…you just live for the moment/experience…

It’s the same when your higher self goes to experience a new life below; there’s no need to be clinging on to all your previous past experiences, and higher knowledge and memories etc…, you can contemplate your whole life experience and past ones, when you get back up there…this is how I imagine we develop spiritually, either up the scale or down it, depending on our choices; So not exactly a complete reboot, from the higher perspective, but it certainly appears that way, from the lower perspective…IMO


- JC



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 07:40 PM
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I know this wasn't directed at me in particular but you mentioned my post and I thought I'd clear the air.


By "reboot" I mean that we (as the expressions of God with the fullness of him within us) are given a chance at a new start through reincarnation. Every time we are "born again", that is God "rebooting" on an individual basis.

Think of it like waves in the ocean, they rise and fall individually but as a whole the ocean is always there and always has been (metaphorically). We are the waves, God is the ocean. While every wave is unique in its own right, fundamentally they are all composed of the same "material", which is the ocean (God).

Our "higher self" is God (awareness), our "lower self" is the body we inhabit. I agree with your view that the reboot is only in the lower realms because our bodies die, in the higher realm (awareness) there is no such thing as death because life and experience are continuous and without end. You can't experience being unconscious. If you hit your head and are put in a coma for 30 years then wake up it would feel like the blink of an eye. There are no gaps in awareness, hence no "reboot" from that perspective.
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posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: bludragin
a reply to: veteranhumanbeing

I was shown in a dream by the Spirits of the Horse, Whale, and Dolphin that most of humanity will be wiped off the face of the earth within 46 years. And they are very, very glad...

Wow, outstanding; that is very interesting; as some of my studies are of the Ancient Maya "Panther, Monkey, Bat, diamond back rattlesnake" that do predict man kinds end point. What do you suppose the message was given to you dream wise; a truism or a possibility. It is interesting these are oceanantic personages (spirit forms) telling you a singular truth (time period exact HOW IS THIS NOT COOL). Does God end this cycle because it is bored or THERE IS NO GAIN FROM IT ANYMORE (no profitability).
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