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Breaking: Pope Ousts Top Vatican Judge Known For Incendiary Anti-Gay Comments

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posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: Sabiduria
a reply to: thinline

Wow you are so wrong about homosexuality and pedophilia!


Terminology: Pedophilia and child molestation are used in different ways, even by professionals. Pedophilia usually refers to an adult psychological disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners; this preference may or may not be acted upon. The term hebephilia is sometimes used to describe adult sexual attractions to adolescents or children who have reached puberty.

Whereas pedophilia and hebephilia refer to psychological propensities, child molestation and child sexual abuse are used to describe actual sexual contact between an adult and someone who has not reached the legal age of consent. In this context, the latter individual is referred to as a child, even though he or she may be a teenager.



Another problem related to terminology arises because sexual abuse of male children by adult men2 is often referred to as "homosexual molestation." The adjective "homosexual" (or "heterosexual" when a man abuses a female child) refers to the victim's gender in relation to that of the perpetrator. Unfortunately, people sometimes mistakenly interpret it as referring to the perpetrator's sexual orientation.

As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, citation omitted).

To avoid this confusion, it is preferable to refer to men's sexual abuse of boys with the more accurate label of male-male molestation. Similarly, it is preferable to refer to men's abuse of girls as male-female molestation. These labels are more accurate because they describe the sex of the individuals involved but don't implicitly convey unwarranted assumptions about the perpetrator's sexual orientation.


Facts about homosexuality and child molestation

I think that people often confuse pedophilia (attraction to prepubescent children) with simple age inappropriate relationships with post pubescent individuals. A man may find a 16 year old female very attractive, but that is not pedophilia. It is still illegal in many regions, but that attraction does not make him a pedophile.

As said above, pedophiles typically do not have sexual attraction to adults, be they hetero or homo sexual.




posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 02:03 PM
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What Pope is teaching is that it's church job to teach the word and not to judge others and punish or rebuke them. Christ welcomes all even if your backward views don't. That does not mean church need to support gays or gay marriage it just means church don't judge punish or rebuke them. To judge another is as sinful as gay sex.
edit on 20-10-2014 by Xeven because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: SomePeople
a reply to: andy06shake


You've got to give it to this pope, though - he's not doing that bad a job. In fact, I'd say he's doing a better job than any of them ever have. Is this one rogue pople enough to save the whole church, though?


There is nothing rogue about this position.


I agree, it's the right position - but tell that to those stodgy old cardinals.



posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: Xeven
What Pope is teaching is that it's church job to teach the word and not to judge others and punish or rebuke them. Christ welcomes all even if your backward views don't. That does not mean church need to support gays or gay marriage it just means church don't judge punish or rebuke them. To judge another is as sinful as gay sex.


Dude, gay sex isn't sinful - no sex is unless it's rape or child molestation. Just get over it.

You started that out so well and then just crashed the bus right off a cliff.



posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 04:36 PM
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Good for the Pope.

I'm still giggling because I read the "Ousts" as "Outs."



posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 07:09 PM
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a reply to: NavyDoc

I didn't quote everything from the article, it's quite big, but here is this piece:


Pedophilia and child molestation are used in different ways, even by professionals. Pedophilia usually refers to an adult psychological disorder characterized by a preference for prepubescent children as sexual partners; this preference may or may not be acted upon. The term hebephilia is sometimes used to describe adult sexual attractions to adolescents or children who have reached puberty.

Whereas pedophilia and hebephilia refer to psychological propensities, child molestation and child sexual abuse are used to describe actual sexual contact between an adult and someone who has not reached the legal age of consent. In this context, the latter individual is referred to as a child, even though he or she may be a teenager.

Although the terms are not always applied consistently, it is useful to distinguish between pedophiles/hebephiles and child molesters/abusers. Pedophilia and hebephilia are diagnostic labels that refer to psychological attractions. Not all pedophiles and hebephiles actually molest children; an adult can be attracted to children or adolescents without ever actually engaging in sexual contact with them.

Child molestation and child sexual abuse refer to actions, and don't imply a particular psychological makeup or motive on the part of the perpetrator. Not all incidents of child sexual abuse are perpetrated by pedophiles or hebephiles; in some cases, the perpetrator has other motives for his or her actions and does not manifest an ongoing pattern of sexual attraction to children.

Thus, not all child sexual abuse is perpetrated by pedophiles (or hebephiles) and not all pedophiles and hebephiles actually commit abuse. Consequently, it is important to use terminology carefully.



posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: Xeven

Except it's stupid for a religious person to not want to support same-sex marriage or any LGBTQ+ person for that matter because GOD created LGBTQ+ people. Only God can create life, not the devil. Religious people also claim God is perfect therefore LGBTQ+ can't be a mistake or abomination.

((btw: I'm Empirical Agnostic but used to be Presbyterian))



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