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Texas Gov. Perry Orders Full Blown War on Ebola - Including Travel Bans From Afflicted Countries

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posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: signalfire

So it's just Rick perry up there flapping his gums about things he wants to do but is not allowed to.
He is very good at using all of the days buzz words and phrases in his pressers.

Yes the idea of banning anyone from coming or going sounds good on paper and people will agree with the idea of it. But how can you actually implement it while still giving the people their rights.


It seemed easy enough to implement the TSA and it's draconian searches at the airports didn't it? Think about how hard it is for a US citizen to get on an airplane in this country with all of the checks and searches and lists.....

So why so easy to get into the country?

"Logistics" is nothing more than the political buzz word used to BS the people as to why a travel ban hasn't been implemented.

But hey, any of us who lose a loved one because of political posturing will certainly understand the sacrifice to our country they made. /sarcasm




posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: AutOmatIc

OMG you are bad, BAD BAD!!!

I so needed that laugh! Living in Texas, this place is the only place I can actually discuss ebola, without others trying to put a tinfoil hat on me.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:22 PM
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I would like to add.. for all of those slamming Perry, please take a look at the new fearless leader/czar that was put into place.

Say what you will about Perry, at least he isn't afraid to stand up for Texas.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963

Because the last time we dropped a few "liberties" in exchange for security we ended up with the TSA in its present incarnation...

You are ok with the CDC having its own police force too?

Let me take that a step further......

Isn't it just a bit coincidental that we have been shipping ebola patients into the country for weeks, under the eye of the CDC, but the first walk in patient (poor person) dies in one of the few states where a notable GOP candidate is planning a Presidential run?
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posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:26 PM
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You are ok with the CDC having its own police force too?


I thought every agency had one plus ordered enough bullets for a good length siege.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:28 PM
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a reply to: roadgravel

Did the TSA always have VIPR agents with automatic weapons wandering around subway stations and city streets?

Will you happily endure random blood screenings and genetic testing or will the nice man have to point his shotgun at your head first?
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posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:33 PM
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originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
a reply to: signalfire

Good. Do uou know how dangerous it would be to have a law that puts you at the mercy of the government for 42 days (unless you are forgotten) because you might have had contact with aomething?


Do you know how dangerous Ebola is? If you don't want to be in a FEMA camp (or 'gated community'), then DON'T TRAVEL. We're not talking the next polio pandemic, or even smallpox. This is worse. How does someone's 'rights' to go on a cruise or vacation supercede the entire planet's rights to not let something out of the jungle that has stayed there for millennia, until plane travel became a possibility?

Extrapolated from the Spanish Flu pandemic which only lasted two years (no reason Ebola wouldn't be permanent) between 20 million to 100 million people died; the reason we don't have a better count is because people were too busy burying the dead and dying themselves to walk around with clipboards.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:34 PM
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originally posted by: Thorneblood
a reply to: roadgravel

Did the TSA always have VIPR agents with automatic weapons wandering around subway stations and city streets?

Will you happily endure random blood screenings and genetic testing or will the nice man have to point his shotgun at your head first?


Why do you assume that is what is going to happen? That's a big leap from people here thinking travel limits might help to that state.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963

So you don't think there would be any planning at all? Just ban all travel simple as that?

And you seem against the current situation we have, but seem to be all for making it even tougher?



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:41 PM
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We really could go round and round on the theoretics of testing, quarantine, civil liberties blah blah blah.. all damn day long.

But the truth of the matter is, the genie has busted out of the bottle, and as the saying goes, "its all fun and games until someone pokes an eye out" and guess what, the eye has been poked out.

So the real and possibly life saving question is.. what do we do now?



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: roadgravel

Really? How effective has the TSA been? Why would they need their own well armed swat teams patrolling transit hubs? We have countless federal agencies and law enforcement personnell and yet here we are.

The only truly effective way to do that is total martial law. When they lockdown Dallas what do you think the reaction by the population of Texas alone is going to be?

Using hysteria to enwct drastic new messures of control is common practice.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: Justaposter



So the real and possibly life saving question is.. what do we do now?


I am afraid it will be the wrong thing and too late, at least from the US government. Reasonable people will some how over come this, as always.

My fear is all the 'don't tread on me's who will tread on me.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: Thorneblood

why do you assume I believe in a well armed TSA roaming airports?



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: roadgravel

Believe it
Vipr

A Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response team, sometimes Visible Intermodal Protection and Response (VIPR, or VIPER) is a Transportation Security Administration program. Various government sources have differing descriptions of VIPR's exact mission. It is specifically authorized by 6 U.S.C. § 1112 which says that the program is to "augment the security of any mode of transportation at any location within the United States". Authority for the program is under the Secretary of Homeland Security. The program falls under TSA's Office of Law Enforcement.[1] TSA OLE shares responsibility for the program with the Office of Security Operations and Transportation Sector Network Management.[2]

The VIPR teams detain and search travelers at railroad stations, bus stations, ferries, car tunnels, ports, subways, truck weigh stations, rest areas, and special events.[3][4][5][6][7] They also can deploy to deal with CBRNE/WMD (chemical, biological, radioactive, nuclear, and explosive weapons of mass destruction).[8] They also inspect ships, containers, and vehicles.[9]



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: signalfire

Cause ships don't exist and people having been using them to get across the waters longer than any sort of plane.

So again, people seem to think the best way to deal with this is just close off the USA entirely from the outside world...
Sounds cheap and easy to implement.....


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posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: Thorneblood

I didn't say it doesn't happen, I said I don't believe it should be happening.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: roadgravel

No it shouldn't, but as we move into murky waters regarding international and domestic travel then this is one of the most likely groups to be put in control of the logistics of restricting peoples movements. Throw in CDC personnel and you already have a well funded and wide spread program for locking all of us down right where we are.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 04:03 PM
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The truth of the matter is that both the TSA, EMTs, airline and hospital personnel are ONE MORE OUTBREAK ANNOUNCEMENT from quitting their jobs and staying home or bugging out because they don't want to take this home to their families.

You have to control something like this at the source or everything else breaks down, and quickly.

If you know someone who works in a hospital, ask them at what point they'll refuse to go to work and your 'modern western medical model' goes out the window. It's not far off at this point.

This should have been done three months ago; now is better than nothing, but it's probably too late, especially with flu season oncoming. If travel restrictions were put in place three months ago, we could have assumed 'flu' if someone came in with vague symptoms. Now we can't. Do you realize what that means to a hospital? To several thousand hospitals? Seventy people were required to take care of Duncan, including immediate patient care staff, lab workers, cleaners, food people, etc. Seventy people who then went home and exposed their families, and two idiots that got on a plane and a cruise ship. Now how many have been exposed (and there's all the people who went to the grocery store to pick up a few things, and their little kids being dropped off at daycare, etc...).

The exposure numbers are already in the 10s of thousands. For something that looks all the world like the flu for the first 5-7 days.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: signalfire

Cause ships don't exist and people having been using them to get across the waters longer than any sort of plane.

So again, people seem to think the best way to deal with this is just close off the USA entirely from the outside world...
Sounds cheap and easy to implement.....


During the Spanish Flu outbreak, ships were the way that the flu got to Europe; our servicemen were ill when they got there; but the fact remains that a slow form of transit allows the possibility of the ship being a quarantine; if you know people on board are sick, you don't let them disembark. The slower transit is a form of quarantine, itself. A plane is WAY too fast for a disease this dangerous.

And you're not listening; we're not talking end all plane travel, just people from affected countries even if they've taken a circuitous route here. If we can embargo Cuba, we can embargo a couple African nations.

Ebola was limited to the deep Congo until just recently. We have no idea what it will do in the general global population and we probably don't want to find out. If you think a travel ban will be expensive, try burying a couple billion people.



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