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GOP set to seize the Senate

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posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Gryphon66

Currently, I can only purchase what the state (the central controlling authority) allows me to purchase.

I don't have the freedom to purchase.

I have to pay a fee for the privilege to purchase.


You are being forced to purchase PRIVATE for Profit insurance by "our" government owned by wealthy interests.
It was not done by the majority of Americans since the majority have no say in policies as a study proved.
It was done by Wealthy Interests that have no skin in the game and want everyone else to pay for it.
They are Corporate Fascists


Big Pharma and Health Insurance make so much in profits, that they sit at the top of the lobbying (bribery) chain to hand money over to their puppet politicians to force on us their desires.




posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: sheepslayer247

What you describe as neo-conservative, I describe as progressive.


Why?

The description I gave is accepted as being the neoconservative ideology. Calling it progressive does not make it part of the progressive ideology.

Or is this just a way of sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "na na, I can't hear you" because you refuse to concede that an extreme right-wing element has taken this country in to the toilet and both the dems and reps have gone along with it?

ETA: If you agree with my description and the tactics they use, can you explain why you never hear leftists calling people "commies", "socialists" or invoking the name of god? That's a tactic used by the right wing extremists, is it not?
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posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 05:49 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

I do for the most part. But what does that have to do with the question you asked or the answer I gave?



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 05:54 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: xuenchen

Klain didn't "approve" any deal.

At best he "approved" an Obama visit to the Solyndra facility in 2012.

And even that would be stretching the facts.


And at worst he could have ran the recount effort for Gore in Florida while he asked to disregard the military vote in the recount. Or work as a political operative during hearings for judicial nominees such as Clarence Thomas. He would have been considered a racist if he was republican.



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: sheepslayer247
It hasn't been socialist, liberal, communist, progressive or conservative ideologies that damaged this country. It was the money-hungry, war-mongering neoconservative fascists that pushed this country to where it is today.....and you can fool some, but not all of us.

We know the score here.

So quit trying to cover this up with a happy face and call a spade a spade.


I was gonna post about the agenda driven trolls in this thread, but this says it all right here.

Great post!! As well as your other posts in this thread.

Since 1970 the right wing has controlled the white house for 27 years compered with 18 years for the left, yet it's funny how all that ails the country is blamed on the left. The NeoCons have destroyed what this country was supposed to be about yet they blame there failed policies on the left, progressives, and liberals, so much for taking responsibilities for ones actions!!! I guess all conservative republicans of the last 40 years were really progressives and liberals??
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posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: MarlinGrace

Thanks for your hypotheticals and guesswork!

So you agree that Xuenchen's comment was inaccurate when he stated that Mr. Klain approved the Solyndra deal?



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: LDragonFire

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Kali74

Out of curiosity, do you agree with all tenets of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights?


Witch constitution? The one our founding fathers created that allowed slavery?

Let me ask, are you protesting in the streets for the slavery that exist right now today?

The one that didn't give equal rights to women?
Are you protesting in front of the myriad of Muslim countries embassies for their treatment of women and their total lack or rights?

The one that allowed our government to intern Japanese Americans in WW2? The one that allowed secret medical experiments on minorities? The one that allowed the IRS and federal reserve to become law of the land without properly ratifying it?

You blame the law for the law breakers? I suppose you blame the murder law every time a cop shoots an innocent?

Maybe you like to complain about the things that happened under someone elses watch. Your president today resigned the patriot act, drone killed innocent people, violated a citizen's civil rights when drone killing a US citizen without a trial, then killed his kid with a drone strike, todays war mongering cowboy doesn't even get a protester in the street. The founders created the greatest document in the history of the world don't blame them for slavery, and the law breakers that don't follow it.



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: MarlinGrace

Thanks for your hypotheticals and guesswork!


So is this how you now handle the truth? Used to be you could give me a run for my money.




posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 06:45 PM
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Here are snippets from 3 articles released in the last week:


Midterm elections are invariably a downer for the political party holding the White House. One can usually expect losses. And so it has seemed as we entered into 2014. In fact, up to a few months ago, the Republican Party was crowing that they were going to sweep the Nov. 4 elections. Suddenly, a few weeks ago, something changed.

There was no longer the hubris from the republicans. In fact, something started to happen that was not — at least according to the so-called experts — supposed to happen. The elections began to tighten up. There is no way at this point to know the outcome of the Nov. 4 elections. However, poll after poll seems to be indicating that nationally things could go either way. In practical terms this means that voter turnout will be more than essential. A major “get out the vote” effort will be critical if the democrats wish to retain control of the Senate and flip some House and gubernatorial races. Quite literally, we are looking at a situation where every single vote counts.

Given this, republican trickery remains a dangerous challenge in terms of voter suppression. The various laws that have been passed over the past several years to protect against imaginary voter fraud have, quite predictably, hurt the participation of historically disenfranchised populations (such as the elderly, youth, people of color). This fact is what makes state legislative races so important. It has been republican-controlled state legislatures that have passed draconian measures restricting the right and ability of the citizens to vote.

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Like the article explains a few months ago the republicans thought they would sweep the 2014 election, but just a little more than 2 weeks away these races are tight. Some look at this race as the republicans voter suppression vs the democrats get out the vote effort. We will see very soon how this plays out.


Indeed, Republicans hold the lead in key states, but this unanimous agreement among election forecasters conceals an Achilles heel: We all rely on the same poll data. What if that data is off?

A Few Front-Runners in Close Elections Will Lose on Election Day

Josh Katz at The New York Times' The Upshot has analyzed the performance of Senate polls since 2004. He found that the predictive accuracy of polls depends on how soon the election is and the size of the front-runner's lead. For instance, if the election is three weeks away and the front-runner leads by 3 percent or less, that candidate will still lose 38 percent of the time—nearly two times out of five.

In the period Katz analyzed, only three or four Senate races in each election were decided by 3 percentage points or less. But as of Tuesday, such narrow margins existed in six races:

The New Republic

So according to his research these races are way to close to call, and when you consider how far off right wing media was with the 2012 elections, we could see a repeat.


Republicans are bullish that they will win control of the Senate, make small gains in the House and retain many governor’s offices this year. But just over two weeks from Election Day, fears about Ebola and Islamic State militants, along with sudden, surprising scrambles in key states, have added new volatility to the 2014 campaign.

The political climate clearly favors Republicans, buoyed by President Obama’s record-low popularity and a voter-enthusiasm advantage. However, the kind of wave that lifted Republicans in 1994 and 2010 has eluded them, in part because the GOP brand also is damaged.

Voters are restive and dissatisfied with their political leadership, turning what had been a workmanlike slog of a midterm campaign into an unpredictable sprint. More sitting governors and lawmakers are in danger of losing today than just a month ago, while both parties see new opportunities and hazards, especially in the battle for the Senate.

The Washington Post

Polls are showing that republicans have at least a 60% chance of regaining the Senate, based largely on Obama's low approval rating but republican approval ratings are even lower than Obama's.

So is this election gonna be decided by the democrats get out the vote campaigns or on republican voter suppression efforts? Are the polls accurate or is all the data being used to predict the results flawed?



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: MarlinGrace


Let me ask, are you protesting in the streets for the slavery that exist right now today?


Are you?



Are you protesting in front of the myriad of Muslim countries embassies for their treatment of women and their total lack or rights?

Are you?


You blame the law for the law breakers? I suppose you blame the murder law every time a cop shoots an innocent?


Are you saying Japanese Americans interned in Concentration camps and minorities that had medical experiments were all law breakers?


Maybe you like to complain about the things that happened under someone elses watch. Your president today resigned the patriot act, drone killed innocent people, violated a citizen's civil rights when drone killing a US citizen without a trial, then killed his kid with a drone strike, todays war mongering cowboy doesn't even get a protester in the street. The founders created the greatest document in the history of the world don't blame them for slavery, and the law breakers that don't follow it.

I'm against the patriot act brought to us by GWB and resigned by Obama, are you against it?
I'm very much against drone attacks that killed Americans, I assume you are too??
Usually I defend the constitution, however how has it been used by our leaders to limit rights of Americans?



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 06:55 PM
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Oh the title of the op

GOP set to seize the Senate

The gop can't win the senate in a fair and honest election, so they must use nefarious ways to Seize elected offices?
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posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: LDragonFire

Since 1970 the right wing has controlled the white house for 27 years compered with 18 years for the left
Since 1977, the right wing has controlled the white house for 20 years compered with 18 years for the left


 

a reply to: LDragonFire
Well at least it's not the 2006 elections all over again






posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: sheepslayer247


The Progressive movement in the U.S. today represents more of a grassroots effort to bring about socio-political change. Many politicians desiring to avoid the label “liberal” have adopted the term “progressive” to describe their political leanings.

The Center for American Progress founder John Podesta described the difference between liberals and progressives this way: “Liberals tend to care more about individual freedom, while progressives care more about the public good.”

While some may think that to be a progressive means to be in favor of big government, in fact a true progressive would say they believe in “power to the people.” They see the government as the elected representation of the people and feel that the government ought to be more responsive to the needs of the people.

Individuals who are active in promoting the progressive agenda include actor/activist Robert Redford, Rev. Jesse Jackson, historian Howard Zinn, Wisconsin’s Senator Russ Feingold, and Ohio’s Rep. Dennis Kucinich among many others.

Some groups that ally themselves with the Progressive movement include: People for the American Way, America Votes, EMILY’s list, MoveOn.org, and the Center for American Progress.


“Liberals tend to care more about individual freedom, while progressives care more about the public good.”

www.examiner.com...

A very temperate definition on how I see progressives.



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 07:45 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer

I do for the most part. But what does that have to do with the question you asked or the answer I gave?


Just curious, I guess.

Since you identify with the anarchist movement/ideology I was curious.



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 07:55 PM
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originally posted by: LDragonFire
Oh the title of the op

GOP set to seize the Senate

The gop can't win the senate in a fair and honest election, so they must use nefarious ways to Seize elected offices?


LOL and you will decide who is fair and honest... What crickets with Al Frankin?
Maybe his Net Neutrality support will make you sway, but I doubt it.



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: LDragonFire

Since 1970 the right wing has controlled the white house for 27 years compered with 18 years for the left


Interesting history....

Since 1933 the right wing has controlled the white house for 36 years compered with 46 years for the left.

And most Democrat Presidents enjoyed a favorable Democrat Congress.

Far better than Republican Presidents with Republican Congresses.

In fact they say Clinton was a successful President because of the mostly Republican Congresses he had.



United States Presidents and control of Congress

So who is really the "Damaging" Party?



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 07:58 PM
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originally posted by: MarlinGrace

originally posted by: LDragonFire
Oh the title of the op

GOP set to seize the Senate

The gop can't win the senate in a fair and honest election, so they must use nefarious ways to Seize elected offices?


LOL and you will decide who is fair and honest... What crickets with Al Frankin?
Maybe his Net Neutrality support will make you sway, but I doubt it.


Al Franken


Mr. "Trunk" vote



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: LDragonFire

Nice try on the deflection but you are the one making the statements, I just asked the questions. Why do you complain about past atrocities? Here let me... because it suits your political view when you do nothing today. This is the hypocritical approach of the left. Cry racism while it happens everyday all over the world, rant about womens rights when they are being sold in Muslim countries, and then blame the constitution for people breaking it's laws and tenants. Like the president it's a dishonest approach to the problems of the nation.



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Ok Bill Clinton is out campaigning for Democrats, where is GWB?

After the 1929 stock market crash (residing republican president) America didn't elect another Republican for president for 2 decades.

Since 1970 the middle class growth has stopped or has seen little growth, thanks to republican tax cuts for the rich.

Our economy did better for all before 1970 than since 1970, the rich of course have thrived under republican tax politics.

Edit to add: Why not research stock market crashes and look to what party was in control of the white house, what do you think it will show? Also look to the highest growth in the market and show what party was in control!! ha ha very unlikely
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posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: MarlinGrace

Yeah and the sop of the right is to blame everything on the left.




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