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originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Stormdancer777
I think Ket might be referring to the Remnant. The few of the 144,000 left on earth. That's just a guess though.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Shana91aus
Yeah, I come home and get those stuffed in our door, too. You're right, they're creepy. The JW's are set up to led astray no matter which way you lean - religious or not.
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Stormdancer777
I think Ket might be referring to the Remnant. The few of the 144,000 left on earth. That's just a guess though.
originally posted by: intrepid
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: dusty1
But if they've never read the Bible for themselves ... how do they know they are really sharing God's word and not the word of their pastors?
JW's do. 4 chapters a week. Those Psalms are frickin annoying.
originally posted by: pjdonovan70
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Stormdancer777
I think Ket might be referring to the Remnant. The few of the 144,000 left on earth. That's just a guess though.
Weren't they supposed to be part of the generation of 1914? Are there even any left? From what I was taught the end was supposed to come before they ask passed away.
That 1914 marked the end of the Gentile Times and the establishment of the Kingdom of God in the heavens, as well as the time for Christ’s foretold presence.” 4
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: pjdonovan70
Yup. I think that ain't going to pan out as that generation is pretty much not here anymore. Predictions, predictions. Cripes. Imagine what it was like to be 13 and KNOWING the world was going to end next year.
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Stormdancer777
That's what I recall. 1914 was Christs return. Not sayin it's right, just sayin.
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Stormdancer777
I think Ket might be referring to the Remnant. The few of the 144,000 left on earth. That's just a guess though.
originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
There is nothing much suggesting Jesus was the messiah...
“I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I AM!” ~ John 8:58
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" ~ John 1:1
God was made manifest in the flesh. ~ 1 Timothy 3:16
...in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. ~ Heb. 1:2
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. ~ 1 Corinthians 8:6
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ ~ Ephesians 3:9
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. ~ Colossians 1:16-17
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
two of the three kingdom halls here have closed, I wonder if the numbers are dropping, I haven't had a witness at my door in ages
Has a mass exodus begun in the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses?
Desperation! THE MASS EXODUS HAS BEGUN.
The internet is the most powerful external weapon against the Watchtower. The most powerful internal one is themselves. With all the rapid fire desperate changes taking place in The Watchtower, the more savvy, acute Jehovah's Witness will begin to see all this maneuvering for what it is, Desperation. Every new light has new questioners. Virtually none of the children who have not been baptized will ever stay in the religion once they are adults, and hardly anyone from the field is attracted to the organization.
It's truly exciting to see the early stages of the COLLAPSE OF THE WATCHTOWER ORGANIZATION.
Update : Most of their real estate has been sold off, Kingdom Halls are "compressing", Bethelites and missionaries are being sent home, 20 Branch Offices shutdown, Watchtower format changed to public issues and private issues, more and more judicial committee meetings being held for apostasy. (THE WATCHTOWER IS DEAD IT JUST HASN'T FALLEN OVER YET! The Watchtower officials are "dividing up the booty" and getting out of Dodge!
answers.yahoo.com...
If you want to learn the truth of the JW’s I suggest you read two books by Raymond Franz “Crisis of Conscience” and “In Search of Christian Freedom”. Franz was born into the JW’s, his parents already involved with them for many years. During his 60 years with them Franz served at every level including serving as one of the ‘governing body’ for 10 years, the highest level possible to reach in this organization. During his life long membership with them Franz witnessed many atrocities that caused him to leave this Satanic cult. I strongly suggest that anyone wishing to know more about the JW’s read these two books which expose the JW’s for what they truly are, I assure you, you will be stunned beyond belief when you read the heartless schemes of this joyless religion.
thewatchtowerfiles.com...