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Ebola patient was on flight from Cleveland to Dallas!

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posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 07:35 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


originally posted by: Valhall
Serious? They closed the friggin schools?
www.wkyc.com...


- They closed the schools.
- They took the plane out of service and are taking the seats and carpet out.
- People on that flight are now home and self quarantined. = Lost work wages.
- People who handled her luggage ... people who were on that plane for any of the next 7 flights it took ... all nervous and on watch ...

This woman getting on an airplane for her jaunt to Cleveland has cost a lot of money and has a lot of people very uptight. If she had stayed home like she should have, none of this would have happened. If she had stayed home then she could have gone directly to the hospital when she got the 99.5 .. but instead she delayed her own treatment because she was out visiting relatives and flying around the country.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.




posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 07:40 AM
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originally posted by: Valhall
twitter.com...

Eagle Mtn-Saginaw ISD: family w/ child at Lake Pointe Elem in isolation b/c family member was on plane w/ Amber Vinson. @NBCDFW



Yes, I just heard this on my local morning news. They said it so briefly I almost didn't catch it.

Eagle Mountain is located in the Fort Worth area.



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 07:53 AM
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DFW Airport Contractor Forced To Remove Mask & Gloves


DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – A contractor for Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport is livid that his supervisor forced him to remove a mask and gloves he wore to work Wednesday.

“One of the supervisors told me I wasn’t allowed to wear that because it’ll cause a panic for people and they’ll start tripping out and stuff,” said Pablo Medina.

He’s frightened after learning the latest Dallas Ebola patient, Amber Vinson passed through an exit where he was working. Medina was helping direct travelers to their gates Monday night.

Vinson flew Frontier Airlines, and most of their ticket agents at DFW Airport were wearing latex gloves Wednesday.

But Medina has claimed airport supervisors told him to take off his protective mask and gloves — or head home.

“It makes me mad, it makes me terrified that they’re denying me to wear safety precautions. And they told me that if go out, they’ll let me go – and that just makes me more mad,” said Medina.

Medina said his supervisor threatened to fire him for being “out of uniform.”

DFW airport spokesperson, David Magana told CBS 11 News that he was aware a contractor had asked about wearing personal protection. But the airport told its contractors that neither the CDC nor local public health authorities recommend that action as an effective or appropriate procedure.


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posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

It's a little over board considering the staff member only rode on the same airplane as the nurse. Clarification point: they rode on the plane AFTER the flight the nurse was on. They were NOT on the flight the nurse was on. I mean seriously.

Our pathetic society waffles from wanton hubris-driven ignorance of situations to literally peeing down both legs in public. We never seem able to find logical center.

P.S. I totally agree with your statements about the whole phone call to CDC business. CDC AND the nurse should have charges. Of course, we now know that even the slightest insinuation that a government agency may have effed up will cause hard drives to crash across the nation....so there's not much going to come to fruition down that path. But miss nurse...she's still guilty of homicidal ignorance.


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posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: Justaposter

I'll be honest: these talks with the CDC we've had are nothing new or recent. There aren't many non-profit call centers in the U.S. that are as big as ours. We have the capability to answer a large amount of calls (thousands per day), a cloud-based call system that can have calls routed easily, and the ability to go 24/7 at the flick of a switch. Because of our technology set up, our workers, every single one of them, can take calls remotely through their home computer and a cell phone.

This isn't anything secret or clandestine. If there is a large-scale Ebola outbreak in the U.S. (something I personally regard as HIGHLY unlikely), there will be a need for a nationwide phone number for people to call and get information. It is our opinion that the CDC would choose us as that call center.

We do not have medical professionals or anything of the sort on staff, but we could quickly deploy a large staff of call center workers who could answer basic questions and give out basic information on a large-scale. We've had no contact with the CDC about Ebola. All of our talks were preliminary and discussed the possibility of deploying in the event we were needed. No specifics attached.

This is a program called Flu on Call, something else we've been involved with. The idea would be something similar: www.astho.org...



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 09:29 AM
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Imagine...



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


originally posted by: RockerDom
Saying she called "The CDC" is pretty vague.

I want to hear the recording of this phone call.

- Did she identify herself fully?
- Did she state that shes' on 'Ebola Watch' ?
- Did she state that she had direct contact with active Ebola?
- Did she state that she had a fever?

Or did she call and say 'I have a 99.5 temperature. Am I allowed to fly?'.
How much information did she supposedly give?

Either way ... this still goes back to her fault. She is an educated medical professional. She shouldn't be flying with ANY fever. She should know that fever = contagious ... no matter if it's ebola or the flu. To travel while sick is selfish and no one should be doing it.

She is at fault. And if the phone call turns out that she identified herself as on 'ebola watch', then the CDC is also at fault. But this alleged phone call does not relieve the woman of her responsibility in this matter.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



Thank you for laying that out so articulately, Fan......the fact is we DON'T know what she said, or what was said back to her. And if someone "in charge" at the CDC did, in fact, know who she was and went ahead and told her it was okay to fly and expose potentially hundreds of other people, then they are definitely liable. (Shouldn't they pay everybody's lost wages from being quarantined??)

But even if she wasn't forthcoming and identified herself as one of the nurses who took care of Duncan, the stupidity level of this woman goes beyond the pale. And I still maintain she should be held accountable for it.



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 09:41 AM
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a reply to: Valhall

"guilty of homicidal ignorance"

Perfect description in my opinion.






posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: Valhall

From what I heard on the news this morning, in regards to her phone call. They made it sound like she basically has a "handler" that she has been calling. The same guy every time.

If that is true, then he knew enough about her. Enough to say no.



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: chiefsmom
I can't find the video, it was on CBS This morning.

But this article does talk about her being in repeated contact.
Nurse contact



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: chiefsmom

Someone this stupid needs a handler. Unfortunately she needed a handler slightly more intelligent than her. She's not getting any breaks from me. Her cover story about going up there to discuss her wedding plans fell apart when exactly ONE person -a man- self-reported to have had 'household contact' with her. You don't go to see your mom and sis to talk wedding plans and not have household contact with them. She went to get laid. Let's just get honest. Possible transmission to numerous people cause she wanted a piece of a**. Hope it was worth it.



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: MagesticEsoteric
a reply to: Valhall

"guilty of homicidal ignorance"


Perfect description in my opinion.





Thank you. I coined that phrase and actually used it in an official report after I found myself forced to leave a six figure job in order to not be part of an inanely obvious errant policy decision that was about to put employees in harm's way for no reason other than egomaniacal tripping by the homicidally ignorant person calling the shots. If you see some one claiming ownership tell them to stop infringing on my trademarky-copyrighty-thingy. Lol.



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: Valhall

I know something about this myself.


Except I tend to think such situations are far more willful than the word 'ignorance' permits.

Regardless, it's good to be free... The next gig will be better.

In terms of this nurse and the 'handler', this is how I see it. The CDC's fear of public panic is second only to its fear of 'first responder' panic. The CDC will bend over backwards to keep healthcare workers from getting spooked, even if that means taking some risk.

They let her fly, because the last thing they wanted to do was to rile up those who are being monitored. Can't risk them talking smack about their experiences.

I'm sure Louise Troh was a real pain in the ass when she started talking to CNN. They can't risk monitored healthcare workers doing the same.

If you think they are telling the public there's little to worry about, imagine how much overtime they're eating up to convince healthcare workers of the same.
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posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: Valhall
I completely agree.
As I've been posting elsewhere, too many people have NO common sense. Ether that, or are just monumentally selfish Ba*****.
Probably a combination of both.

And that to me is criminal, in this whole Ebola nightmare.



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 11:35 AM
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im trying to find a link but no luck yet. my mom said this morning on yahoo she saw an article that talked about ho the minnesota dept of health has discovered that ebola is airborn and that the cdc and who do not have the up to date info.

i dont see how minnesota would be in the know but the cdc would not.

anyway, there is an article floating around somewhere that says that.

also, i am just outside cleveland and its freaking me out.

when you go here to our local news link

www.newsnet5.com...

it talks about northeast ohio being on ebola alert.

they have set up emergency call centers...apparently there is a grade school teacher that was in contact with that nurse. she has been put on paid leave for 3 weeks and they cleaned the entire school with bleach and yadda yadda just like the cdc guidelines say

www.newsnet5.com...

For individuals with any direct physical contact with the index case (including brief contact such as a handshake without personal protective equipment), ODH recommends quarantine for 21 days after the last contact in conjunction with public health officials.
For individuals without direct contact, but within a three foot radius of the index case (such as adjacent passengers in an airplane or car) for a prolonged period of time, ODH recommends twice-daily temperature-taking and symptom check (one observed by a public health official) for 21 days after the last contact with the index case.
For individuals without direct contact but in the vicinity of the index case as indicated by a public health official, notification and self-monitoring is recommended.
Individuals in any of the above categories who have an oral temperature of 100.4 degrees or greater, or develop symptoms including muscle aches, weakness, vomiting, diarrhea or bruising/bleeding, should seek medical evaluation and testing

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i went to my doctor today for my monthly visit. she works at university hospital. she is not an ebola specialist of course but i asked her about it...
she said i should mellow out.....she said we are probably going to see more cases but the people most at risk are healthcare workers and the family of people who become infected.

she told me again that you have to come in direct contact with fluids.....

ii know that is what we have been told the entire time. just passing on info.



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: CardiffGiant

As you know, I too am just outside of Cleveland, my bud has a couple of rental houses in Garfield Heights and he just told me that they have quarantined a house there.

But I agree with the mellow out statement though. The common flu killed 58,000 Americans just last year and no one seemed to be freaking out about it back then.
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posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 11:49 AM
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a reply to: TDawgRex

Maybe because if it were actually true they would.

Don't Believe Everything You Read About Flu Deaths
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posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: TDawgRex

i know the house the nurse stayed at is roped off. i think that was tallmadge though.

in general, people in the cleveland area are freaking.....all kinds of protocols were put into effect.



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 11:58 AM
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originally posted by: loam
a reply to: TDawgRex

Maybe because if were actually true they would.

Don't Believe Everything You Read About Flu Deaths


That's a great article. Thanks for posting that link. I do know that often autopsies and tests are not done on people who have died and it is often declared that they have died from the flu.

Adding Ebola to the mix though just doesn't ruffle my feathers. There are lots of nasty viruses and such that'll kill us out there. I'm not going to live my life in fear.



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: CardiffGiant
im trying to find a link but no luck yet. my mom said this morning on yahoo she saw an article that talked about ho the minnesota dept of health has discovered that ebola is airborn and that the cdc and who do not have the up to date info.

i dont see how minnesota would be in the know but the cdc would not.

anyway, there is an article floating around somewhere that says that.



Could it have been the Mayo Clinic? They are located in Rochester, MN.



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