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Dallas nurses cite sloppy conditions in Ebola care

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posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 08:30 AM
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Nurse reporting anonymously through a professional nurses association to avoid retribution by hospital administrators have shared disturbing details of the lack of preparedness and poor working conditions at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital:

Source: Associated Press


A Liberian Ebola patient was left in an open area of a Dallas emergency room for hours, and the nurses treating him worked for days without proper protective gear and faced constantly changing protocols, according to a statement released late Tuesday by the largest U.S. nurses' union.



Nurses were forced to use medical tape to secure openings in their flimsy garments, worried that their necks and heads were exposed as they cared for a patient with explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting



- Nurses treating Duncan were also caring for other patients in the hospital

- Preparation for Ebola at the hospital amounted to little more than an optional seminar for staff

- In the face of constantly shifting guidelines, nurses were allowed to follow whichever ones they chose



Typical of for-profit hospital administrators: routinely overwork and underpay the nursing staff, squeeze every savings possible to return a profit, leave yourself vulnerable to training and resource gaps in a crisis.

It has been my experience that the hospital administrators are the most overpaid, least skilled people in most US hospitals and only interested in profits for the executives.




CDC officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment.


Of course not. The CDC led by "Dr." Thomas Frauden is still in full-blown calm-mongering, downplaying the outbreak and making ridiculous claims that the broken, for-profit US healthcare system is somehow "the best in the world" and "ready for any crisis."

CDC = Contagious Disease Cover-ups




posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 08:39 AM
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a reply to: Nicorette


Typical of for-profit hospital administrators: routinely overwork and underpay the nursing staff, squeeze every savings possible to return a profit, leave yourself vulnerable to training and resource gaps in a crisis.

They better get a handle on that with a quickness.


The CDC led by "Dr." Thomas Frauden is still in full-blown calm-mongering, downplaying the outbreak and making ridiculous claims that the broken, for-profit US healthcare system is somehow "the best in the world" and "ready for any crisis."

He's required to say that stuff by the government, not his own choice. Big pressure cooker going on there.

Lets not do Ebola's job by beheading the agency midterm in a crisis. That could only make things slow down even more while some transition occurs.



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 08:45 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

Don' behead the CDC?

After openly lying to the American people about transmission, saying it is hard to transmit when it is not.

Of course, no worries, that is the preferred method for the current administration, lie until the truth is so obvious that you have to admit the truth
then blame the Republicans if you can't blame Bush
but never, ever, under any circumstances accept blame and do something about it.



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

Ebola is no worse than AIDS or HIV. This scare is only to push the vaccine.

Like I said previously Ebola can be cured as follows : 10 ppm Nano Collodial Silver with 3ppm H202 (Peroxide), Intraveinous Vitamin C High Dose, and Delta 9 THC treatment (No Smoking) and a cocktail of herbal teas such as tumeric bitter melon and ginger.



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 08:56 AM
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a reply to: Nicorette



Good for them! The CDC and WHO has had to learn something on prevention maybe, the leading doctor did die. So I wonder how many health caregivers in Africa have Ebola?

What precautions are they taken?



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: grandmakdw


Don' behead the CDC?

Or go ahead and do Ebolas job for it.

Of course he knows that wasn't true. He said to to stop panic in the streets, because he was tasked to.
Who cares what they think? What is occurring in the hospital is whats important. Not what officials say about ti.


When in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout. Suppose that would be a better press conference…



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 09:11 AM
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a reply to: MGaddafi


Like I said previously Ebola can be cured as follows : 10 ppm Nano Collodial Silver with 3ppm H202 (Peroxide), Intraveinous Vitamin C High Dose, and Delta 9 THC treatment (No Smoking) and a cocktail of herbal teas such as turmeric bitter melon and ginger.

Is that a secret cure? I have a magic wand. Its a "Presbyterian" hospital.

Ebola isn't vulnerable to religion or quackery.



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 09:14 AM
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This is the difference between our perception of our "civilized" world and the reality on the ground. They are not the same. I have a friend who is a nurse and she has had experience with fellow co-workers (even doctors) who don't wash their hands, even after being in contact with a highly contagious disease, virus, bacteria.

At first I was surprised. I heard about ebola as a child. It's the stuff of nightmares. How could this be happening.

Now I'm surprised at the reactions of ATS members.

Arguing the semantics...
Downplaying the danger...
Calling it doom porn...

I remember not so long ago when this website was aflame with end of the world prophecies, 2012 etc etc...

And now, something REAL and very SCARY comes along and it's nearly ignored, or bashed by people I can only assume are part of the calm-mongering.

Talking out their asses as if they know what this virus is. We don't know, all we know is what they tell us. And since when do we trust that.

I never believed in 2012. But since history has proven time and time again, plagues can kill millions quickly . And just in case anyone forgets, it was called the Spanish flu because Spain was one of the few countries that didn't censor the media. Millions of people died because governments were loathe to undermine the war effort during ww1 by reporting about a killer flu.

If Ebola got out of control in the west, what makes anyone think they will tell us the truth.











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posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 09:23 AM
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Yeah, cause ebola takes ten days to do what HIV takes 10 years to do.

Seriously.

Why don't you go out and get some ebola and prove your remedy works. a reply to: MGaddafi



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: Nicorette

I may have overlooked this but are all of the 76 people/medical staff who worked on Duncan in complete isolation/quarantine or are they just at home monitoring themselves making trips down to the local takeout?
If they aren't, the CDC yet again needs to get off its arse and do something quick! Furthermore, this really has me wondering about Duncan's family...

NEWSFLASH: Dear 'murica gov - Ebola can NOT be bought and sold, you actually have to do some work!



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: grandmakdw


Don' behead the CDC?

Or go ahead and do Ebolas job for it.

Of course he knows that wasn't true. He said to to stop panic in the streets, because he was tasked to.
Who cares what they think? What is occurring in the hospital is whats important. Not what officials say about ti.


When in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout. Suppose that would be a better press conference…


How about tell the truth in a calm and rational manner?

By lying Obama and the CDC have destroyed all credibility on the issue when it comes to anything they tell the public in the future.

If they had told the truth and enacted policies to keep people from hot zones out of the country until the epidemic ran itself out, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 09:44 AM
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How convenient, an ANONOMISS snitch blaming it on the hospital just when the CDC's " protocol " was looking ineffective.

The combination of a CDC that is so ineffective and hospitals that are not ready, this event is going to get a lot worse.

Obama didn't start this but his administration sure is doing nothing to stop or PREVENT it.



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: number38

I would if there was even any threat of Ebola here. But im sure you know how this hoax works so no need too. Why do you think they have stopped shipments of silver getting into the infected countrys.

A natural home cure would take money out the pockets who fund the vaccine.



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: MGaddafi

You are absolutely delusional if you think AIDS or HIV is the same as Ebola.



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: grandmakdw


If they had told the truth and enacted policies to keep people from hot zones out of the country until the epidemic ran itself out, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.

Nah, look at Fukushima, or the Gulf oil spill, GMO, the friggin national debt. They don't say peep about it officially, and nobody cares. Omission of emissions will always be considered the "better course".

People want to be reassured, lulled to sleep.

Besides if they told us the truth, they'd be out of business.

"Mafellomericans, the war on terror doesn't exist." See where that leads.



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: bella2256

Its transmitted the same way is it not ? If yes then why not a country wide panic about AIDS or HIV. Seems to be more to this than health sorry to say.

The Aids and Hiv viruses have taken more RECORDED lives than ebola can dream of but theres no money these viruses.
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posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 11:00 AM
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Transmission is similar, i.e blood and sexual intercourse, but ebola is far more contagious. The virus attacks every thing in your body.

In the final stages before death a SINGLE drop of ebola victims blood contains upwards of 100 million viral particles. All it takes is 4 or 5 of these particles to cause a fatal infection.

HIV/Aids have treatment options, you can extend your life and still live a bit. You're not dead ten days after a HIV infection.

Read up a bit on how ebola kills you... After reading the Hot Zone I'll take aids over ebola any day.

a reply to: MGaddafi



posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: MGaddafi

It is not that I disagree with you that there is more going on...nothing about this seems right. However, as a scientist that does research, the downplay of this virus is not smart just as it is not smart to panic. If we continue to downplay it, I strongly believe that it will come back to bite us in the @$$. Viruses are not my specialty but I have what I would consider a fairly good background. I am sure there out virologist on the boards here..I have worked with Infectious Disease Specialists as some of the research we have done in the lab used the Rabies virus...but I am not an expert. The reason I am telling you it is not the same is that the preventive measures to contain Ebola require very stringent methods and there is no room for error. We have seen nothing but error in Dallas so far...AIDS as killed millions but it will not decimate the population as evidenced over the past 20 years. Ebola has the ability to do this, to change the world as we know it. I dont think that this can happen if the powers that be in the US will pull their head of their a$$e$ and stop thinking with their ego and admit that recent research has shown massive mutations and that it is reasonable to consider the old model
based on research since '76 is not sufficient any longer. In other words, it would be prudent given the current situation, to actually be "over abundant in caution" instead of throwing that phrase out of their mouths why they continue the same less than cautious approach. Rubber gloves are adequate for AIDS and a simple mask stops TB, but Ebola requires the correct gear, ‘space suits’, for example as the media calls it! In other words, the gear is very multifaceted and LAYERS of the gear, not just a simple set of gloves and masks from CVS. Just keep all this in mind when you think it’s no big deal.



Transmission

• The HIV virus can be stopped from transmission through simple preventive measures, with an almost 100 % efficiency. That means that the virus can finally be isolated and prevented from spreading, theoretically.

• The Ebola virus knows no such limits. The virus is a biosafety level 4 agent – It is to be handled under extremely tight security, with all possible safety measures. Access to a level 4 laboratory is by means of electronic identification cards and sensors.

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posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: bella2256

I agree with your assesment. Im not saying Ebola isnt real or there is no threat of it. But it seems like there is more in the making here than medical issues. Ebola is a deadly virus no doubt but is it really as hard to contain as people say when everyday bleach can kill it ? Precautions are underminded on purpose I think for something hidden in the shadows.
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posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: MGaddafi

I could not agree more that something seems to be undermining !!!
It is true that bleach is very effective, its hard to stop the spread
though if you do not treat it like the bio level 4 virus it is!
If I were to speculate, I have no concrete evidence for this...but
my gut tells me we are all being primed for vaccinations! They learned from
the swine flu failure that they would need a more fearful population
that would actually line up to get it...even if we do not, I think with the document
Obama signed in August..we will be forced.



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