A second Health care worker in Dallas diagnosed with Ebola

a reply to: RoyalBlue

To me once infected the person is a carrier, regardless of all the BS CDC is telling.

a reply to: butcherguy

So does that mean I should be freaking out about Russia's nuclear weapons, alien invasions and the evils of gay marriage?
The government says dumb # all the time, they have to do it but that doesn't mean we have to believe it or repeat it ad nauseum like a petulant child screaming "my mommy said so"

So the POTUS is convening a meeting today about the...uh...Ebola diagnosis. (Press Secy. really wanted to say "Ebola crisis" but stopped himself).

Thank HEAVENS this isn't just a national security briefing...cuz then Obama wouldn't bother to show up.

I mean, I'm grateful this guy has his priorities straight.

originally posted by: Thorneblood
a reply to: butcherguy

So does that mean I should be freaking out about Russia's nuclear weapons, alien invasions and the evils of gay marriage?
The government says dumb # all the time, they have to do it but that doesn't mean we have to believe it or repeat it ad nauseum like a petulant child screaming "my mommy said so"

You can freak out over whatever you like.
And I probably won't try to control your life with respect to that.

a reply to: ValentineWiggin

Hon, after the fiasco with the CDC and Dallas, we are in a state of emergency even if the CDC refuse to address the issue.

I am of mix race, I have black, Taino, Spanish and Italian, then while I am type 0 positive and so my two children my husband happens to be type A positive, all this is very important or seems to be with ebola.

Hell, I want to know my chances of surviving ebola with my ethnic background, after all for what we have seen so far, it may seems to target people of certain ethnic background worst than others.

I guess we will wait and see.

originally posted by: marg6043
If the second nurse doesn't make it, I will have to bring the issue of ethnicity and the implications of ebola on some people and not on others.

Photo of Amber Joy Vinson
Yes ... she's black. If she doesn't make it, it'll be because she's one of the 70% that doesn't. It won't be because someone killed her with a disease engineered to kill black people. And it won't be a revenge 'let her die' because she was a freak'n idiot and flew across the country while possibly infected. If she dies it'll be because she contracted killer Ebola. But I'm sure some out there will try to make it into something else because she's black. They'll forget that it kills white people as well.

a reply to: FlyersFan

and how far of a jump is it to people not going to hospitals when they are sick because they think the Dr's are killing certain patients?

Not far.

originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: 2gd2btru
I notice they are referring to her in the past ... 'she LIVED at the Village' ...

What? Are they talking about her like she's dead already. Crap.

For all we know, she may be dead already.

a reply to: FlyersFan

It does kill all kind of people but for some reason we need to be observant on how deadly it seems to hit some people and no other all possibilities counts and no I don't believe that is an engineer virus to kill just one ethnic group, because I am in that group too.

Right now I am open to anything.

Without a working vaccine we all fair game to ebola.

IF this woman survives ... and if anyone gets infected because of her abject stupidity in jumping on an airplane and traveling while on 'Ebola Watch' ... then she needs to be prosecuted for assault or whatever the heck they can prosecute her with. Seriously.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
IF this woman survives ... and if anyone gets infected because of her abject stupidity in jumping on an airplane and traveling while on 'Ebola Watch' ... then she needs to be prosecuted for assault or whatever the heck they can prosecute her with. Seriously.

Agreed.

a reply to: FlyersFan

She is a terrorist, flyer, that is what she is a terrorist.

I keep going back to this

Records show that Pham and other health care workers wore protective gear, including gowns, gloves, masks and face shields and sometimes full-body suits when caring for Thomas Eric Duncan.

They were taught and told this would keep them safe while taking care of Thomas Duncan. Nina Pham was reported sick on the 13th. Same day as Amber Vinson flew back to Texas. Everyone is told to be at the airport an hour or more early. She was in Akron and had to drive to Cleveland, about an hour. She was enjoying family she may not have known about Nina Pham falling ill. I would never call her a terrorist.

She was just planning her wedding.

www.nbcdfw.com...

Cleveland Public Health Director Toinette Parrilla said Wednesday that Vinson went to Ohio to prepare for her upcoming wedding and to visit her mother and fiance.

I pray she recovers.

I think we should stop all incoming planes from th US. Just to be safe, you know..

Press Secy just said that stopping travel to/from Africa would "stop the expeditious flow of personnel and equipment" to Ebola-affected areas. Because it's more important to stop the virus "at the source."

And so fighting the virus DOMESTICALLY takes a backseat to humanitarian expediency.

I have no trouble with people (military/healthcare/sight-seers/whatever) flying TO Africa. I have one HELLUVA problem with ANYONE flying BACK from Africa.

Am I just being unreasonable?? Irrational???

originally posted by: Jansy
Press Secy just said that stopping travel to/from Africa would "stop the expeditious flow of personnel and equipment" to Ebola-affected areas. Because it's more important to stop the virus "at the source."

And so fighting the virus DOMESTICALLY takes a backseat to humanitarian expediency.

I have no trouble with people (military/healthcare/sight-seers/whatever) flying TO Africa. I have one HELLUVA problem with ANYONE flying BACK from Africa.

Am I just being unreasonable?? Irrational???

I've never understood why they think that. Makes zero sense to me. So no, you are not unreasonable or irrational, just sensible.

a reply to: Thorneblood

Risk Communication
"...“Social media is obviously about morethan how we reach out to the public and educate the public,” said Nathan Huebner, emergency risk communication specialist and lead for the emergency Web sites of the Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention. “It’s about the public talking to us. It’s also about the public talking to the public...."

If you look at the development of the threads on Macondo and Fukishima, you'll see that initially there's a diffuse, high alarm reaction response, then it settles down into some damned good research and original thinking. Because we're such a diverse group there will inevitably be different ways of expressing ideas.

One of the best postings on the board had to do with Ebola virus entry requires the cholesterol transporter Niemann–Pick C1 . That was brilliant. If this thing is bio-engineered, that's probably where we need to start deconstructing to see what makes the human fat cell different from those warm blooded creatures that can defeat the virus. I read in one paper that the reason plant mediation is suspected in fatalities in the wild is that only some populations of wildlife seem to be affected fatally and only in some areas (exclude primates-like us, they're at risk by their nature).

Fear is a great motivator. Also, right brains think and express differently than left brains. Things will settle down and as the group focuses, it'll generate more useful data.

And BTW, mods, this is one reason we need to combine these threads. As has been mentioned, searching's getting harder and harder due to the amount of material available.

a reply to: Jansy

The argument they're making against banning air travel is typical of the stupidity of this administration. They can ban commercial flights from the affected regions, but make exemptions for medical personnel and equipment if they really wanted to. They just don't want to.

originally posted by: 2gd2btru
I keep going back to this

Records show that Pham and other health care workers wore protective gear, including gowns, gloves, masks and face shields and sometimes full-body suits when caring for Thomas Eric Duncan.

They were taught and told this would keep them safe while taking care of Thomas Duncan. Nina Pham was reported sick on the 13th. Same day as Amber Vinson flew back to Texas. Everyone is told to be at the airport an hour or more early. She was in Akron and had to drive to Cleveland, about an hour. She was enjoying family she may not have known about Nina Pham falling ill. I would never call her a terrorist.

I pray she recovers.

I pray she recovers, too...I really do. I would not wish an Ebola death on ANYONE.

But if the CDC says it was monitoring all at risk individuals, she must have KNOWN about the monitoring...and she dang well knew she had been in VERY close contact with a dying Ebola victim...so then what she did was so irresponsible as to border on criminal intent.

Praying for her recovery is wonderful. But hoping she will be held criminally LIABLE if she does survive is what I'm doing.

Cdc guy said she had a low fever before getting on the plane. How would he know if she didn't? So monitoring aside she knew she not only had been exposed but had at least one symptom associated with being infected.