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Revisiting Unknown Alien Message "Do You Wish That We Show Up" & Dr. Carol Rosin's Warning

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posted on Oct, 20 2014 @ 05:55 PM

originally posted by: celticsea
a reply to: Ridhya
And I think we give them power over us by giving in to our greedy, hateful and evil intentions. They deceive us and we allow it.

Yes I believe this is the intention of the forces at work undo our Will in Divinity and our true Spirit essence that is more powerful than they are through the very power of our own free will hence the need for agreements to act as the foundation and catalyst to what they are able to do including feeding off our negative emotions hence why the control grid is to keep us spiritually arrested and enslaved. In essence this is an invasion that looks very much like possession not only of the mind but of the soul.

Exposing Our Covert Rulers:

The writing and publication of The Protocols have put certain things into action, but things do not have to go the way the document is written. Even though the NWO will be implemented, the Light has taken certain measures that will ensure the total demise of the evil plans that the Anunnaki have set into motion.

The forces of evil will self-destruct when their own evilness is returned to them by their own actions. The Will of the viable True-Light beings will sustain them against Darkness as long as they do not trade it for temporary relief, worldly gratifications, or anything offered by Darkness. In other words, do not be tempted, seduced, blackmailed, bribed, threatened or coerced by Darkness into giving in to Evil. The NWO is designed to physically enslave people. But, the goal behind the enslavement is to chip away at the Will of the True-Light beings so they will give it over to Darkness.

People need to resist spiritually and to hold onto their Will for as long as the Rescue Mission of the Light takes to complete. It is the Will that Darkness craves. The Will is the True Spirit of a True-Light being. If Darkness can trick the True-Light beings into surrendering their Wills, the beings will become totally polarized towards Darkness and will no longer be viable because they will have been lost to Darkness. This is why it is absolutely critical to resist Evil and not to give one's Will over to Darkness.

He warned that humans should be very careful of the kind of emotions they transmit and pointed out that these entities are attracted to negative emotional energy much as sharks are to blood. He concluded by saying that, “Our emotions attract the attention of beings of like kind.”


Beyond Fear, a Toltec Guide to Freedom and Joy by Don Miguel Ruiz. “Humans are not the only beings with powerful minds. Attached to humanity are unseen beings that also are an organ of the earth. They share the metabolism of the earth, just as humans do. These beings form a spectrum from benevolent to harmful. They have been present alongside the human race from the beginning. The destiny of these beings and that of humans is intertwined.

The Toltec’s call them Allies. The Allies lack a brain, which means they have no factory to create emotions, but they need the ethereal energy of emotions to sustain their life. Allies push humans to create traumas in order to create fear, which they feed upon.” Ruiz went on to say that humans are in a similar relationship to these entities as cows are to humans. He pointed out that humans take in energy from sunlight through food already processed by other living beings, such as plants and animals. Our brain then transforms the material energy into the ethereal energy of our emotions.

This emotional energy then supplies food for our minds and for the Allies. The Allies must then convert emotion into the negative emotion on which they feed. He explained that the Allies had no mechanism to produce the negative emotional energy themselves. They had to turn human emotional energy into negative energy before they could harvest it. In order to turn human emotion negative, the Allies are capable of putting fearful thoughts into the minds of humans which in turn generates the negative emotion on which they feed. This fit the schizophrenic’s description of how psychotic voices operated exactly and also explained the occurrence of sudden, negative, obtrusive thoughts that seem to come to mind out of nowhere.

Ruiz went on to explain that in order to resist the coercion of the Allies, people must become aware of them as this very moment they are feeding off the negative energy and fear generated by us. He warned that humans should be very careful of the kind of emotions they transmit and pointed out that these entities are attracted to negative emotional energy much as sharks are to blood. He concluded by saying that, “Our emotions attract the attention of beings of like kind.” 0CFYQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=toltec&f=false

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posted on Oct, 21 2014 @ 01:25 AM
a reply to: Egyptia
Okay... Im not here to debate the existence of spirits or not, since it is unprovable either way... but dont believe all this other nonsense. The Anunnakim are twisted by alien believers into all sorts of things they're not, and the people (like Sitchin) who make all the unbased claims about them have no idea what they are talking about. They claim to be experts in subjects they've never studied.

These people make boatloads of money off website advertising and book sales, and people worship them because they say things that are more interesting than reality.

If you really want a serious history lesson, message Wandering Scribe and Kantzveldt and ask about Mesopotamian history/religion.

As for reptilians... well our own resident Jesse Ventura himself interviewed the main proprietor of reptilian "information", David Icke, and the man is a scheister to the highest degree. He makes a ton of money off his followers by saying things of no substance that sound scientific. He has no backing evidence to even say that reptilians exist, let alone do what he claims.

Now thats not to say that some of that advice isnt good... you should stay positive! Just dont trust these people who Capitalise random new age Words to bring Focus to their Cults!

posted on Oct, 21 2014 @ 01:52 AM
a reply to: Ridhya

How wonderful your advice is Ridhya because it truly takes into account the natural element of exploitation which is the nature of humanity and survival. I have studied ancient history and even majored in it to be honest. Wandering Scribe and Kantzveldt are quite known to me but I like that you recommend them because I see a sharp aptitude and mind in awareness.

I think you are absolutely correct in us being positive because I feel that is indeed one of the keys in escaping all of this while keeping a resolute rational mind in observation that isn't programmed and speaking from internal subjugation which often is clouded.

I believe we are endeavoring to uncover the truth and not be driven into the vortex of it all to be lost in eternity.

As for Sitchin he was utilized indeed.....a mason and engineered to steer the masses............completely a vessel and tool of the operating enemy, no doubt about that.

posted on Oct, 21 2014 @ 04:46 AM
a reply to: Egyptia
Mhmm, my area of expertise if I can even claim that much, is psychology and I have been studying the warfare aspect of it (manipulation) for the past 6 years... once you understand the basic tenets of it you cant help but notice it everywhere! things that go unnoticed unless you know what specifically what to watch for...

It was through my own belief in aliens that I came to the opposite opinion... because the whole subject is full of the same aspects of control and manipulation as are cults and religion! So Im very worried about aliens being the next major cult thing.

I've found it so bizarre that many of the people pushing belief in aliens are the subjects of other conspiracies, as you mentioned the masons, but I mean the Rockefellers (one and the same banking family) were key people financing and promoting belief in aliens early on, and they actively convinced scientists of the phenomena... I just cant believe it coincidence that the most powerful people in the world push the same stuff as the government. There is a history of government workers feeding false information on aliens to influential members... Paul Bennewitz for example.

posted on Oct, 31 2014 @ 05:58 PM
The track is finally finished. I had the message in the track first, but it
got to crowded. So I put it in the description. The music is what came
out of me when i read the message.

posted on Nov, 1 2014 @ 04:06 AM
Every so often, I mentally project my invitation for open contact, in case my vote does matter. I even offer to speak on behalf of humanity, though I know it's not that simple.

One of the best UFO sightings I've had as an adult occurred after a couple days of mentally wishing for personal proof and contact, so the idea may not be as crazy as it may sound to some.

I really hate the idea that our governments may secretly speak for us on this. How many of us really feel that our government is still by, of and for the people? Corporatists pull all the strings and if they have say on this subject, their financial interests and accumulation of power will always trump all other considerations.

In spite of all the ridicule it would likely attract, I hope that someday, via social media, we may be able to mobilize the masses who do want contact to have a day each year were everyone really concentrates on sending that message out into the universe. It probably has a better chance at triggering open contact and disclosure than waiting on The Powers That Be to decide to suddenly share what they know.

posted on Nov, 10 2014 @ 11:11 AM
I'm still shocked that they would end a sentence with a preposition...

posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 10:04 PM
As long as humanity puts ANY effort into having Aliens save us from ourself we are screwed.

We created our problems and We need to address them and not count on some fantasy star trek episode .

Mother nature has shown that the Apex predator does not care about lower lifeforms in the food chain unless it impacts them directly.

I'm assuming these Aliens are higher on the food chain than us and unless we are impacting their environment they most likely could care less about us. In which case , they would not ask for our permissions to intervene.

This is not only silly but harmful as well because it distracts humanity from taking responsibility and really looking at valid methods to fix the problems we created.

Hey Aliens forget asking us for our permissions to intervene telepathically. Instead use your telepathic powers to notify the masses that the governments of the world and global corporations are inundated the people of the world with BS and distraction and for them to wake the F up.

That would be more helpful.

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posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 11:05 PM

originally posted by: interupt42
As long as humanity puts ANY effort into having Aliens save us from ourself we are screwed.

This is not only silly but harmful as well because it distracts humanity from taking responsibility and really looking at valid methods to fix the problems we created.
Hey Aliens forget asking us for our permissions to intervene telepathically. Instead use your telepathic powers to notify the masses that the governments of the world and global corporations are inundated the people of the world with BS and distraction and for them to wake the F up.

That would be more helpful.

You zeroed in on EXACTLY the reason why they have so much power and what and how they are doing what they are doing to take over and steal our Power and thus this Reality/World/Dimension.

"An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane. We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us. We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur. "We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks. "We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite. We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening. We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air. They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison. The poisons will be absorbed through their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems. From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.

The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear. We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far. We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones. Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

"They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect. When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them its for their help. We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future. When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine. We will render them docile and weak before us by our power. They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

"We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all. Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives.

We will use fear as our weapon. We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides. We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan. They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil. "Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way. We will make them kill each other when it suits us. We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion. We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how. We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions. When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best. We will make them rip each other’s hearts apart and kill their own children. We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend. The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers.

They will be busy killing each other. They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit. "We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us. We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths. We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds. We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this. The tools will be provided by their labor. We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors. "We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know! They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal. Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal. We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them. We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have. We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

"When they shall ban together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media. We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor. When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that. They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons. "We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us. The recruits will be called “initiates” and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth.

They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us. For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars. They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. "

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posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 11:08 PM
a reply to: interupt42


This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late. Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves. "When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison.

They will live in self-delusion. When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin. Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial. "But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW. If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action. They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

"This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans. This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came."

"This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist.

It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.

This is an inside to our 'inside' and 'outside'. Everything is laid out perfectly without much resistance. That is where we give over our power and if we don't wise up very soon we will be responsible for our own demise literally. They will walk free because they are obeying the LAW to the Letter utilizing us as their 'batteries' and their 'creators of reality' at our ignorant expense in all that is destroying us.

They are HIVE MINDING us into one global using a level of assault that is rigged to utterly take us over on all levels, mind, body, soul and existence. People's minds are being interfaced and directed by 'Beast Leviathan' that is in charge of this mass global world paradigm agenda. Can we describe what this 'power' is? Can we ascertain its Identity? It is a Hive Body Species literally driving our vehicles right down to our cellular and soul levels.

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posted on Nov, 12 2014 @ 11:20 PM
a reply to: Egyptia

You are zeroed in on EXACTLY the reason why they have so much power and what and how they are doing what they are doing to take over and steal our Power.

Look at that and I didn't even need any alien help to figure it out.

posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 12:55 AM
I am 100% convinced this is a hoax, and can draw this conclusion approaching the article from different perspectives. One of the first sentences alone is clearly designed to protect the hoaxer. This sentence essentially tells the people not to worry about how this message reached them, or who translated it. Of course the author does not want us "worrying" about that, because that would require that we use our common sense and ask the obvious questions, which would expose the hoax. By following his/her advice and ignoring that glaringly inconsistent aspect, we are essentially making it easier to fall for the hoax. That is approaching the article from a stylistic point of view, looking at the way it was written. There are also some sentences that were worded incorrectly, and there were other mistakes that I would not expect an alien species to make, considering so much of the article is correct.

And then there is the fact that nothing in the article is new or interesting, and all of it is the same old New Age types of nonsense. And one of the most obvious questions that the author probably would not have us ask is this: out of all the claims of extraterrestrial abilities, the ability to read the thoughts, and even plant thoughts, into the human mind seems to be a recurring theme. So if aliens exist and that is what people are experiencing, they probably shouldn't even need to ask us what we want, because they would know it already. And then there is the fact that if it is truly aliens that people have been experiencing for all these decades, these aliens could not care too much about our species since they have abused us on a repeated basis. So many alien encounter stories are horrifying and frightening for the eyewitness, especially abduction cases, and I cannot imagine how a benevolent race of aliens would allow such mistreatment to occur. There are just a ton of questions that I think would have to be answered for me to even consider this as anything more than a hoax, mainly because there are just so many things that point to this not being authentic.

And consider the most important aspect...If an alien race wanted to address a question to every human on the face of the earth, or as many as possible, do you really think they would pick a single obscure individual, and trust them to be able to get the word out to the number of people necessary? No, because that would be dumb, considering it would not succeed. There are much better ways to go about it, especially if you are an alien with advanced technology and intelligence. So nothing really adds up here.

posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 01:15 AM
a reply to: JiggyPotamus

I agree that this is most likely a hoax and if not a hoax than it is designed to further derail us so that we are following exactly the agenda and plot of the 'illumined' towards our complete invasion and eventual destruction in completion.

This message is just another means to be 'transparent' enough to get people to 'agree' and 'acknowledge' what is sufficient to move the chess piece to the next square, nothing more.

There is a very basic human nature quality attached to all of this that takes us back to the beginning of time from primordial man and the invasion from the beginning of what we call human 'time'.

LUCIFER Mind Control slavery, Nano implant technologies, Human Robotization, neurological weapons torture, Gang stalking The “Transhumanist Agenda” METAWARE - High BLACK OPS BLOCKING ASCENSION
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posted on Nov, 13 2014 @ 10:25 AM
Regarding: (Do you wish that we show up?)

From what I know, we do need the help, even if not, it would be very positive for all.
No matter if it means to erase all humans, in case of it being the best choice for the positive feelings of all that is and will be, it would be wonderful.
I would, of course, also like us to become one with any beings and sacrifice my own if it creates more positive feeling than is given.

The planets state on the physical layer has been going in loops and begins to expand onto other layers as well.
In others lives here I have and barely will have a chance to even become aware of all of this.
I've spread awareness to so many humans when I still had time, but media and games subconsciously use the brains materials, weakening not only their victims resistance, but also of those they are in contact with.

Qualitative text!
I can say it matches my own findings except for "non human creatures being involved [with a focus on it]" significantly, - the chance for that within my data and brain mechanisms to be true is only around 31%. Though, there are sometimes highly aware (however, focused) forces unlike those which a human brain would generate reaching me. I'm talking about the planning of manipulation. I see the causes behind effects and can rebuild what was behind them partially and always make a use of it.
Also, areas of humans attacking each other on sight doesn't match my conclusions and findings about the past. A more typical human mistake if I would be correct.

It doesn't matter if there are hoaxes or not, communication and improvement to the fun of all matters.
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posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 09:46 AM
I would say YES to sharing love, truths and knowledge. I say NO to new leaders or the current ones for that matter! I do not love/worship one being, I worship ALL. Without ALL working in unison, we are No Thing.

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posted on Nov, 16 2014 @ 11:35 AM
Werner Von Braun was a nazi. No amount of American governmental whitewashing can erase that fact. He harboured deep seated hatred. He most likely fed Dr. Carol Rosin plenty of disinfo.

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