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Revisiting Unknown Alien Message "Do You Wish That We Show Up" & Dr. Carol Rosin's Warning

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posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: Egyptia

I think Hidden_Hand mentioned that Earth is a prison controlled by Yahweh, and the analogy applies. Prisoners are forced to work, we are forced to work to survive. And we fight among ourselves, just like prisoners do.




posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: np6888

You make very valid point's especially about how there is never anything for nothing and work is necessary to attain our goal's, but a chain is still a chain and when you are the one in chain's knowing that your self placed master's are in every way inferior to you would you not want to break those chain's in a society where today no matter how hard you work you could not ascend to that position.

Civilization's rise and fall, there was once a missionary in south america not too long after the spaniard's had arrived and he had converted an entire tribe to christianity which they espoused with total conviction, they lived in a functioning utopia all working for the common good and he educated and cultured the tribe but when the bishop came out and saw the Savage's he ordered the monk back to his monastery and the conquistedores then arrived and enslaved the entire tribe, they were then worked to death on the settlers ranches.

Those in power are often less than decent, they are flawed, poor examples of humanity and indeed are often radically less sophisticated than there position and power would portray them, the point is that when you are working for an end product that does not benefit you, your society or culture, the human race but is merely to sustain a group of power monger's who have a generational and often inbred, indoctrinated and sculpted attitudes toward the mass of humanity which they see as a resource and a problem both, then what do you feel about the pitiful wage you earn for such an endless product.

During the first world war the power broker's used the conflict to try to kill off the working class as they saw it as a threat to there WAY OF LIFE, not there nation's way of life but THERE way of life, after Red October and the bolshevik revolution they panicked as they could litterally smell the fire at there own foundations thinking it was the frech revolution all over again so they artificially maintained the conflict when it should have come to a close in order to kill off even more of the working class who were famously sent over the top to charge machine gun emplacement's even when they knew that tactic had failed utterly.

Socialist not communist policy's are humane and so far the only structure that can bind a society from the highest to the poorest together in a cohesive mass, US America prior to the 1980's had a very good social distribution of wealth and you could work to the top through your own hard work and sweat making it the envy of the world, but today not only in the US but western europe and today even supposedly communist (dictatorship) china have a massive and growing disparity between the wealthy and the poor, this creates class inequality and tears at the very foundation of a nation eating at its fabric and it's very soul until it is no longer recognizable or unified, meanwhile the wealthiest who now have the power have accelerated there consolidation of wealth and control exacerbating the situation even further as they dream of an idiolized image of the past in which they were the master and every one else the servant.

Free market economy's are good but only when they are heavily regulated but a social balance through taxation and intelligence redistribution of wealth is necessary, subsidise industry's to create employment and drive the low earning economy by creating employement driven consumerism and making everyone taxable so that they all own and pay for there country.
Free education to the highest level's to ensure social mobility is attainable.
State controled water, power and infrastructure to ensure economic control during time's of economic crisis.
A safety net to catch the most vulnerable and poorest members of society and help them reintegrate or at least survive.

Over the past thirty years in Britain we have seen these very structures broken up and sold off at the behest of international and right wing propeganda sold financial rakateering, today we are the nation with the fastest growing disparity between poverty and wealth, not helped by the flood of eastern europeans and other economic immigrants who are straining a system they have no moral right to and did not build, and of course we are the home of the bullingdon boys at eton and there hooray harry attitude of hate the poor who are capitalizing on these foreigners and of course our own growing resentment which they are using to to smash our social reforms of the 1940's and 50's and to justify the most injust action's of a group of bare faced lieing scum bag's who are only in power because of what shirt tie they wear, one of them is now our prime minister Mr Cameron, there initiation in he bullingdom club includes finding a down and out then burning a £50 note under his nose to torment him.

It is not just in the states but here in Blighty and also in western europe but during this burning down of the house in which we live there are a handful of very powerful and wealthy people who are making themselves even more poweful.

So people who inwardly are rebelling at the growing injustice in there own lives and around them used to look toward social thinkers such as Karl Marx and the various spin off's of his ideas or Nietzsche and his rather evil minded alternative's but today they are flocking to the modern phenomena of outer space or other world beings coming to our aid, they are not coming and we have to fix this ourselves which for me is the fundemental core of that message.

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posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: Aleister
"If you build it they will show up" . Doesn't have the same ring.


Humans Built the Atomic Bomb aka Nuclear Device ! then Constant Nuclear Testing in the USA then Soviet Union after 1947 then The Extraterrestrial Craze Came around ! late 40s and within the Whole Decade of the 50s


Possibly?

ET's : Time to Babysit and Monitor them ! They are Taking their First Steps !


True Story! LOL Ha ha well..



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 10:31 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Ridhya
One wrong assumption doesn't mean the whole topic isn't worthy of persuing...


Wow, and I never once said that it wasnt worth searching.



there is simply too mich space wasted if we would be the only ones inhabiting it.

Wasted according to who? Waste and purpose are purely human designations. If a tree falls down in a forest, you know the rest... you ascribe human purpose to a universe and assume its here for us!! (life)



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 01:01 AM
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originally posted by: np6888
a reply to: Egyptia

I think Hidden_Hand mentioned that Earth is a prison controlled by Yahweh, and the analogy applies. Prisoners are forced to work, we are forced to work to survive. And we fight among ourselves, just like prisoners do.



Yes it is truly set up to feed the reptilian brain which are the basic instincts of survival and when mixed with carnal desires or impulses the end result in responding to all things 'ego' makes for a perfect slave set up where we perpetuate our own lowly condition of that very subject enslavement.

Indeed and thank you for mentioning Hidden Hand because that is a document that is important to consider in all this.

www.illuminati-news.com...

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

thebrain.mcgill.ca...

secretofmatrix.blogspot.ca...
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posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 01:57 AM
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a reply to: tetra50

Thank you for that link Tetra which brought me to consider another aspect to these reptilian designed mind control towers and that is the Biomass companies that are cloaked for installing further technologies like these towers only with a more sinister design that is next in their invasion agenda I feel.

A friend of mine was telling me about a BioMass company that has been taking over parts of the U.S. with incineration companies and a witness who discovered a deeper agenda connected to this. Now in this instance they are targeting towns that have railroad systems going through, convenient when you consider the martial law and the termination plan for dissidents or anyone who is considered a terrorist and the definition of terrorists is changing with the political climate as we speak. So let these 'beings' operate through their hosts while they set up these 'new' biomass companies including the towers you linked and position these facilities to operate while ultimately having a very different purpose in future events.

Through these biomass factories a few purposes including an undisclosed ulterior motive can be in operation simultaneously. I feel we need to question these huge corporations that are managing to find ways to install the very things that are contributing to our demise.

Now these biomass facilities all contribute by polluting the environment with sulpher, arsenic and other toxic substances that serves the ulterior undisclosed purpose which you and I won't ever know until it is too late. Then when ready you have these incinerating companies ready and waiting for their genocide transported en masse right to the door of their incineration. Sound familiar?

Now these huge biomass corporations are going in and attempting to buy up farm land and even over riding farmers in the set up of these facilities.

Now I'm painting a worst case scenario with what is occurring with these biomass companies that are spreading themselves all over the world and altering the environment and impacting peoples lives and health. So then worst case scenario when martial law hits will reveal what the true purpose of many of these biomass facilities and I am just speculating based on the report I received which was very disturbing.

A part of what is occurring in this 'agenda' is the genocide through the slow kill but eventually that will be replaced by very clear measures as was witnessed by the entire Nazi set up which was a test run of things to come in the future for the agenda playing both sides and setting us all up.

Interestingly when this town resisted this particular huge biomass company installing this massive incinerating facility some very peculiar paranormal things were witnessed including crafts over the town as I'm sure 'they' were at a loss how a small town could take their own power back and fight such a huge power with the backing of the government and unlimited funds.

Just things to consider in never taking for granted what is going on around us and our environment and having a questioning mind that can see into the future and have insight into what may be actually truly happening as opposed to what 'they' want us to believe is happening. We have a history of being ignorant and allowing ourselves to be utterly taken over without resisting let alone inquiring and investigating the things that just don't quite feel right or give us cause to notice a red flag including what sounds like a benevolent alien message after all that too was and is the premise of religions which were/are creations of our very own invaders.
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posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: Ridhya

Well a tree lives... So let me rephrase, if a bacteria drops on an empty planet, does it make a sound?
It is just picking definitions, wasted time. I think we know not enough to make a statement, like alien life is just BS, as you apparently do, but maybe I am not capable of understanding your absolute opinion, maybe you know everything and I am just looking for answers. Just as I think a tree makes a sound when nobody listens, the rings of Saturn surely do...
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posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: Peeple
Then surely by your own logic, you agree, we don't know enough to say that aliens exist..?

You were the one who said we cant be alone or else it would just be wasted space. Again, purpose is a purely human designation - you are making a grand assumption that the universe has an instinctive purpose towards life. The universe being huge doesnt necessitate anything. It just exists.

In order for sound to exist, there has to be hearing.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 11:54 AM
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Just my two cents on this topic.

Yesterday morning when I read this really interesting thread, I mentally answered the question posed in the topic. "Please, by all means, do show yourselves" thought silly me.

Last night I dreamt with aliens and UFOs appearing over my city and people leaving everything they were doing, looking up in awe and alarm. In my dream we all knew that things had changed forever.

Quite freaky if you ask me.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: Egyptia

By the story with von Brown I understood: The commies are false flag enemies, the terrorists are false flag, the asteroids!? and the aliens are false flag enemy, i.e non existent. And as the threat of alien invention is considered as a reason to start NWO, where do REAL aliens fit it? What I got from the OP is that there are no real aliens, it's all false flag to create weapons and such...



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: Ridhya

And again, just a matter of definition, to me every flow of energy is alive. Soundwaves, bio-chemical processes, every transport of energy. So we're having a unsolvable philosophical argument. I don't think space is an energyless vacuum, that's basically all I am saying, if I leave my stereo on and leave the house there are still soundwaves flowing, right? Electrons in motion, is the base of life, ask your brain. If they stop you're dead.
Maybe a bit off-topic, but cognito ergo sum, is a bit old now, right?
Think of San Francisco and the "what was it called meeting": god lives in bits and bytes, if you define god as the unknown spark of life, life is energy and we are far from knowing everything about it.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: CollisioN

Where are the dead people from what you call "false flag"? The families of them surely would like to know. There are really terrorists, real illnesses and real wars. It is just impious and very bad taste to call whatever frightens you a "false flag".



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 03:04 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: CollisioN

Where are the dead people from what you call "false flag"? The families of them surely would like to know. There are really terrorists, real illnesses and real wars. It is just impious and very bad taste to call whatever frightens you a "false flag".


I believe that's the real agenda. Fear.... Creating fear keeps the persons/leaders/ in charge and the masses listening. They give reason and advice to keep the calm amongst us while doing all of this they have control. Now IMO collision was not saying these things aren't real. The terrorism, illnesses and wars are quite real. But these things you state that are real is us raising havoc upon our humankind family. Who created terrorism HUMANS, who created all these virus' HUMANS, and who starts the wars HUMANS. and the real question is why?.?. For control.? To keep us doing the ones in "the know" bidding.

I for one believe that if I were from another planet and had any knowledge of what happens down here on earth. I would blow right on by this uncivil planet and onto the next planet. Too many crimes and full of much much anger and hate. Not to mention when you think about how far we will go to learn about things scientifically by dissecting, prodding and poking living beings and willing to kill to learn more species its truly sad. Just as I suspect you don't want this on you, neither do they. So lets just skip this god forsaken planet. and onto the next.

Also if I had a one way trip off this rock to a true intelligent civilization of being I'd take it and never look back



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 04:32 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

people still use religion as a control method in case you didnt realize that. thats all it is for



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 04:39 PM
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They are good peacful aliens.
but your goverment has you thinking they are evil.
the only evil ailens are the goverment fake ones.

Them and your goverment Must keep you as slaves/ cash cows.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 10:56 PM
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originally posted by: bludragin
a reply to: Egyptia

Project Blue Beam, right? Are you aware of this connection here? en.wikipedia.org...



Glad you brought this up Bludragin it is perceptive of you to have connected the dot and it opens this up even wider in the underpinnings of it all. The deeper we go in making these connections the easier it is to see the plan although I don't believe the plan is ultra organized on all levels but rather layers of disorganized 'control' governing tactics, hence our world is largely comprised of government, police, army, military, navy, law, churches-further control, educational institutions (further mind control) and essentially everything you see in civilization of law and order. Each layer is basically told what it needs to whether it is true or false the aim is to achieve the result of that particular layer and like a ripple affect or domino affect we will end up with the end result in what is the fruition and culmination of this most ancient invasion agenda.



posted on Oct, 17 2014 @ 11:13 PM
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Do you remember what happened at the end of The Watchmen?

Ozymandias genetically engineered a fake alien and had them kill millions of people in order to unite the United States and the Soviet Union. A new world order. He believed that it was acceptable to slaughter people like this to gain power. He believed that the ends justified the means, and it was his duty to create chaos to turn it into order.

The name of his company was Pyramid Transnational: A New World Delivered



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 01:00 AM
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originally posted by: Egyptia

originally posted by: bludragin
a reply to: Egyptia

Project Blue Beam, right? Are you aware of this connection here? en.wikipedia.org...



Glad you brought this up Bludragin it is perceptive of you to have connected the dot and it opens this up even wider in the underpinnings of it all. The deeper we go in making these connections the easier it is to see the plan although I don't believe the plan is ultra organized on all levels but rather layers of disorganized 'control' governing tactics, hence our world is largely comprised of government, police, army, military, navy, law, churches-further control, educational institutions (further mind control) and essentially everything you see in civilization of law and order. Each layer is basically told what it needs to whether it is true or false the aim is to achieve the result of that particular layer and like a ripple affect or domino affect we will end up with the end result in what is the fruition and culmination of this most ancient invasion agenda.



So pleased you found this helpful. The weaponization of space has already occurred, in my opinion. Are you familiar with 'The Blue Spiral of Norway'? There is quite a bit of evidence that this was not a strange anomalie, but was a clandestine, well planned missile interception / weapons test coordinated between Russia and Norway. Although both countries denied this, of course. And then, there is HAARP. It all connects. Just follow the white rabbit...



posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 01:02 AM
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PS, I agree with this: "I don't believe the plan is ultra organized on all levels but rather layers of disorganized 'control' governing tactics, hence our world is largely comprised of government, police, army, military, navy, law, churches-further control, educational institutions (further mind control) and essentially everything you see in civilization of law and order."
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posted on Oct, 18 2014 @ 01:34 AM
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a reply to: Egyptia

One last thing: "The lie" Werner referred to with Carol was that extraterrestrials existed. The people needed to believe that they were under attack. Hence, UFO's were to be fabricated via very sophisticated hologrophic images, and the masses thereby controlled by the Master Manipulators. This entire project was referred to by those who knew about it at NASA as "Project Blue Beam".

So it was not that Werner was telling Carol there WERE extraterrestrials. Rather, it was the case that our government wanted to get about the business of weaponizing space, so the masses had to believe that extraterrestrials might be a threat. Fast forward: Reagan's 'Star War' speech.

BTW: Carol went on to become an activist, and started a petition whereby the people demand that space be used by humanity only for peaceful purposes, And must never, ever be weaponize, as Werner, her mentor, had wished.



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