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originally posted by: dollukka
There is bridal ritual in Scandinavia when in evening ( couple have already been wed ) group of men steals the bride and groom has to do something to get his bride back. It can be singing, poetry etc.
Kazakhstan In Kazakhstan, bride kidnapping (alyp qashu) is divided into non-consensual and consensual abductions, kelisimsiz alyp qashu ("to take and run without agreement") and kelissimmen alyp qashu ("to take and run with agreement"), respectively. Though some kidnappers are motivated by the wish to avoid a bride price or the expense of hosting wedding celebrations or a feast to celebrate the girl leaving home, other would-be husbands fear the woman's refusal, or that the woman will be kidnapped by another suitor first. Generally, in nonconsensual kidnappings, the abductor uses either deception (such as offering a ride home) or force (such as grabbing the woman, or using a sack to restrain her) to coerce the woman to come with him. Once at the man's house, one of his female relatives offers the woman a kerchief (oramal) that signals the bride's consent to the marriage. Though in consensual kidnappings, the woman may agree with little hesitation to wear the kerchief, in non-consensual abductions, the woman may resist the kerchief for days.
Next, the abductor's family generally asks the "bride" to write a letter to her family, explaining that she had been taken of her own free will. As with the kerchief, the woman may resist this step adamantly. Subsequently, the "groom" and his family generally issues an official apology to the bride's family, including a letter and a delegation from the groom's household. At this time, the groom's family may present a small sum to replace the bride-price. Though some apology delegations are met cordially, others are greeted with anger and violence. Following the apology delegation, the bride's family may send a delegation of "pursuers" (qughysnshy) either to retrieve the bride or to verify her condition and honour the marriage.
damez420sublime 18 hours ago I lived there for 15 years. It is mainly the Kyrgyz who do this. The village people are more likely to do this, in the cities it is unheard of. It's the same with any twisted hill billies
Gulvira Shaimerdenova 9 hours ago How awful to read that this culture is sick, or this is connected to the religion! And someone says it's a common thing to do in Kz. All of it is wrong!!!! I am not protecting the people who do this stuff, I am protecting my culture. This actions depend mostly on a education, not only in school, even home. If you see violence everyday, and don't know anything other then that, that's how these people act... I live in this culture, I know.... Usually this tradition is arranged. Sometimes there are situations like parents disagree or pregnancy, so couple agree to do it. But this video shows a kidnapping, not a traditional ceremony!!!!
nurlanzhak1 18 hours ago Thats actually quite illegal in kazakhstan and has been out of practice for long time. Anyone who knows any details should report to police of that town to help the girl
originally posted by: JiggyPotamus
Anything of this nature, while it may seem unacceptable to us, is obviously acceptable to their culture as a whole. Because we think it wrong, does that mean we are right? It does, but only by our standards. The question of whether it is right or wrong from a universal standard of right and wrong, well that is a philosophical question, and should not be answered based on the emotions we experience when watching something like this. Our repulsion is definitely due to our cultural and societal beliefs, not due to the idea that we hold some more universal or absolute understanding of right and wrong. If we grew up in such a culture, the majority of us would likely hold our culture's beliefs as being closer to the true universal standards of truth.