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They've Done It. They're Using Ebola for Political Campaign Ads.

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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:31 PM
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Chickens come home to roost.

The GOP is famous for criticizing and cutting government yet they leach off government themselves without batting an eye.

This is absolutely true that they have been famous for cutting needed programs so when this comes up they have no credibility

Eat crow and die hypocrites!




posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:31 PM
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originally posted by: LDragonFire
a reply to: xuenchen

Why would a for profit industry create a cure for anything?



BeeEss on the tangents and deflections too !!!

How much money would it take????

Where's the true answers???

How much was "cut" and what effects did that have at all ????






posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:33 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
Chickens come home to roost.

The GOP is famous for criticizing and cutting government yet they leach off government themselves without batting an eye.

This is absolutely true that they have been famous for cutting needed programs so when this comes up they have no credibility

Eat crow and die hypocrites!


Show us the results !!!

How much would this cost???




posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:35 PM
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This is why the medical industry should be socialized.

Seriously what/when was the last cure made under the for profit model?



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:35 PM
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originally posted by: MarlinGrace
a reply to: xuenchen

I googled CDC budgets and their own site is full of PDF's with budget info, and I see nothing with cuts. They cut states funding to allow for more grants but nothing in the way of totals.

Is this the link you went to?
Fact sheet: Impact of Sequestration and other Budget Changes on the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention
From page one.


On March 1, 2013, as required by statute, President Obama signed an order initiating sequestration. The sequestration requires CDC to cut 5 percent or more than $285 million of its fiscal year (FY) 2013 budget. CDC applied the cut evenly across all program s, projects, and activities (PPAs), which are primarily CDC national centers, offices and centers. This means every area of CDC was affected. In addition, the Prevention and Public Health Fund allocation in FY 2013 was almost $350 million below FY 2012. In total, CDC’s program level, including the Vaccines for Children mandatory program and other external sources, was almost $1 billion (or 10 %) below FY 2012.

The cuts when it came to their programs.


The reductions to CDC’s funding accounts are as follows:
Immunization = $ 100 million
HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STI and TB Prevention = $ 62 million
Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases = $ 13 million
Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion = $ 195 million
Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities = $ 7 million
Environmental Health = $17 million
Injury Prevention and Control = $7 million
Public Health Scientific Services = $19million
Occupational Safety and Health = $9 million
Global Health = $18 million
Public Health Preparedness and Response = $98 million
Cross-cutting Activities and Program Support =$35 million



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: LDragonFire
This is why the medical industry should be socialized.

Seriously what/when was the last cure made under the for profit model?


Why haven't the Socialist countries found the Ebola answers yet?

They get the money easier right?

How many cures have they found in the last 100 years?




posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:38 PM
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In 2011, after huge GOP election gains, Obama recommended spending cuts in numerous areas, including disease control. But federal programs of nearly every type took significantly bigger hits in 2013, as the Republican-controlled House demanded less spending. Francis Collins, head of the National Institutes of Health, said spending cuts have hurt efforts to develop Ebola vaccines. "If we had not gone through our 10-year slide in research support, we probably would have had a vaccine in time for this," Collins recently told the Huffington Post. In several congressional campaigns, Ebola has become an important but not dominant issue. In Colorado, Democratic Sen. Mark Udall criticized his GOP opponent, Rep. Cory Gardner, for voting to cut $300 million from the CDC budget. "That's not how we protect our country," Udall said.


abcnews.go.com...

People want to run away from their philosophy of cut cut cut now that it may bite then in the arse.

Indeed, research grants and all kinds of federal cuts ARE THE DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOP

Don't run away now from your basic philosophy.


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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

I am almost 100% certain that White House National Economic Council Director Gene Sperling is/was not a Republican.

Sequestration was a "rod" or enforcement tool that backfired and like all failures in the current WH it cannot be owned.


I know you can do better Buster, I have read some of your arguments in the past.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:40 PM
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Eighty percent of the nurses say they have not had adequate training on Ebola.

Thirty Six percent of hospitals do not have adequate equipment for this type of infectious pathogen.

Seventy Six percent of nurses said the hospitals have not issued policies on how to handle prospective Ebola patients.

Nurses do a lot, but they do not make the policies and directives to keep from getting sued.

Government or private hospitals, have not been preparing and spending the money on training. We have to save the ME and West Africa for some reason I can't figure out yet.

Source: www.washingtonpost.com...
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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:41 PM
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Is this the same CDC who was telling us Ebola was nothing the US had to worry about not too long ago and calling everyone who said otherwise alarmist? Looks like what they said couldn't happen is happening and they are trying to divert blame. Regardless of your budget you have to prioritize and if it was believed regular hospitals were not capable of handling it the patient should have been moved to the best facilities.

The two doctors who were brought back from Africa with the disease were treated in the best facilities available and did not infect any of the staff. I believe they have underestimated Ebola and if the head of the CDC and others are now trying to divert blame it makes me very worried because I fear the fallout of their mistakes might be much more than one infected nurse.
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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:49 PM
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America failed because it's not socialized enough.

Yet socialized countries can't do it either.

Yet it's Bush's fault, republicans fault.

Democrats and progressives are completely innocent. . . . *barf*



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:59 PM
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You can’t have your cake and eat it too folks.

You’ll have run your mouths over and over about this GOP philosophy of cut taxes so when the money ain't there for stuff like Ebola IT’S YOUR FAULT!

Man up and admit your philosophy has failed.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:03 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3

As I have mentioned twice before on the forum, My friend the RN never heard of Ebola.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:04 PM
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And why the title "They've Done it" The GOP has been using Ebola and illegal immigrants for months!!

This could be the October surprise because some of the GOP candidates in close races did indeed vote to cut CDC budget. The ad will start running first in Kentucky then North Carolina.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Sequestration was a terrible idea for a group of people that can't work together.

Across the board cuts rather than trimming away fat is moronic.

No money for Ebola research but money to research "why fat women get less dates". That shouldn't make sense regardless of party affiliation.

Perhaps they should have kept the Ebola research funded and cut the funding for "teaching thai hookers to drink responsibly".

The Repubs wanted the sequestration to hurt, the Dems used the cuts as political ammunition.

Both parties were showing their ass and Americans will now pay the price.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:07 PM
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originally posted by: StoutBroux

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Elton
Well, cutting the CDC budget was seen as a pretty safe move, kinda sucks when the past catches up with us...



I wonder if somebody there can come with the figures and costs that would have made a clear difference.

Maybe the "cuts" made paupers out of some people.



extreme.jealousy.reigns_supreme



Maybe they should have diverted funds from shrimp on treadmills research.


And did they really need to make the robotic snake?



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:08 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
You can’t have your cake and eat it too folks.

You’ll have run your mouths over and over about this GOP philosophy of cut taxes so when the money ain't there for stuff like Ebola IT’S YOUR FAULT!

Man up and admit your philosophy has failed.


So you're saying that the 8% raise that the CDC got wasn't enough and that the only way for a solution is to pour more money into it.

Same answer progressives give when they talk about education.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
You can’t have your cake and eat it too folks.

You’ll have run your mouths over and over about this GOP philosophy of cut taxes so when the money ain't there for stuff like Ebola IT’S YOUR FAULT!

Man up and admit your philosophy has failed.


Or, we could prioritize. If you want money for Ebola, how about we spend less of it on things that aren't important? Maybe we could stop buying votes with handouts to anyone who has a sob story or fat campaign contribution you can use to help secure votes with ...



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:13 PM
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CDC Head: Budget Cuts 'Eroded Our Ability To Respond' To Ebola Threat



Bell also argued that the epidemic could have been stopped if more had been done sooner to build global health security. International aid budgets were hit hard by the sequester, reducing global health programs by $411 million and USAID by $289 million. "If even modest investments had been made to build a public health infrastructure in West Africa previously, the current Ebola epidemic could have been detected earlier, and it could have been identified and contained," she said during her testimony. "This Ebola epidemic shows that any vulnerability could have widespread impact if not stopped at the source."


In order to understand this one has to work under the tyranny of a GOP philosophy of Cut the budget and taxes for the rich.

Kids don’t get computers in schools, education is cut and teachers get fired and poor children don’t get fed and here this deadly disease gets worst because of the ignorant dogma of the GOP.

Its happening right now in Kansas where you have a fanatic GOPer who cut the budget so much even republicans started to cry



Gov. Sam Brownback really is in trouble. The Republican former U.S. senator who was known for right-wing attacks on pro-choice groups and even Catholic members of Congress was elected Kansas governor in 2010’s Tea Party wave. Two years later, he and other Republican extremists—social conservatives from the religious right and libertarians aligned with the Koch brother wing (who are fellow Kansans)—led a party coup ousting moderate Republicans in their primaries. That gave Brownback a green light to begin a great experiment, as he called it, which was to make giant cuts in state income taxes and reorganize state agencies and programs. This is what congressional right-wingers dream about: cutting taxes and services while saying the resulting growth will lead to prosperity, showing taxes and programs aren't needed. Brownback’s problem is that his experiment has been failing on a colossal level. Just days ago, the latest state revenue figures reported another month with tens of millions less than his administration predicted. The state fiscal year may end with a quarter-billion-dollar shortfall, prompting Brownback to ask his state agencies this week to suggest more cuts. These would come on top of the biggest cuts to education—public schools and universities—in state history.
www.alternet.org...



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:14 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

This is not surprise, it was going to happen no matter what, see while people are worry sick of the ebola pandemic and infection, vaccines are still caught up on the greedy fight of corporate power even if the billions been used for decades are mostly coming from the tax payer under the DOD, but rest assure that while the population are going mad with worry, the Richistanis in American from the elite to the political puppets of both parties are keeping themselves very safe in their gated communities and with their secret and pay security agencies.

Wake up people the propaganda machine is working on your minds.




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