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Huge amount of explosives ‘that could destroy a city’ seized in southeast Turkey

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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 04:26 PM
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Turkish police are on high security alert after a large amount of explosives were seized in the southeastern province of Gaziantep.

Police seized 150 kilograms of C4 explosives, 20 vests for suicide attacks, and a number of guns and bullets in the operation, daily Habertürk has reported.

The amount of explosives could destroy a middle-sized city, the report stated.

Gaziantep Police Department head Ali Gezer previously said people "would be terrified" if he announced the amount of weapons and ammunition seized by police in the recent operation.

Police are considering the possibility that the ammunition could belong to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), after initial suspicion had focused on the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK).

They are reportedly considering that the seized explosives could be part of ammunition that was allegedly deployed by ISIL in big cities, the report added.

Red alerts have been issued in many cities, including Istanbul and Ankara.

Every Arab nation that is joining the fight against ISIL better be on high alert because whether you believe ISIL is created by the west or not, they are not going to sit idly by. As soon as I heard that Turkey was joining the coalition ISIL would plan for something big and this could have been apart of that plan.

Remember folks, ISIL also has 88 pounds of uranium they stole from a Mosul University. The dirty bomb card will be played somewhere in the Middle East.

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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 04:29 PM
I believe they were created by the West but that doesn't affect their ability to commit devastating acts. S + F

Not to mention all the other weapons and items they probably will never seize.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 04:50 PM
a reply to: Swills

someone is planning a massacre
prolly To be blamed on ISiL

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 05:01 PM
If the Turks are still blocking the Kurds that want to fight and defend Kobani from passing the border and Kobani falls to ISIS, then they will be surprised how often they will make these finds.
This will just be the beginning.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 05:07 PM
a reply to: Swills

The Turkish police are greatly sensationalizing the quantity of explosives. 150 kg of C4 is not nearly enough to destroy a city.

A few standard single story houses maybe 6 or 7.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 05:15 PM
a reply to: Swills

150 kilos of C4 and a few vests is not enough explosive power to "destroy a city".

Carefully placed, maybe a city block.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 05:30 PM
a reply to: watchitburn

A few standard single story houses maybe 6 or 7.

Maybe that is what they consider a middle size city in that area.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 05:38 PM
a reply to: watchitburn

What is that, over 300 pounds (for us non metric users) of C4? Carefully placed inside buildings would do severe damage, not to mention attached to suicide bombers.

I'm no bomb expert but that will cause much death and destruction. And who knows what else is out there because I doubt these terrorists put all their eggs in one basket.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 05:42 PM
a reply to: Swills

It's really not that much.

A standard 500lbs warhead on a JDAM will only take out a large building or compound.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 05:48 PM
a reply to: projectvxn

Yeah a strike from above has to be move devastating than a bomb from the inside, like controlled demolition.
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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:00 PM
a reply to: Swills

Controlled demolitions take lots of planning and plotting out key placement and all kinds of other stuff. The extremists out there are not good enough to pull off precision operations like that.

It also takes a lot of time people would notice.

It's great that they were able to seize it, they undoubtedly would have gotten up to lots of shenanigans with it. I'm just saying the cops are exaggerating.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:02 PM
a reply to: watchitburn

Terrorist do nothing but plot and constantly plan for their own version of controlled demolitions.

Don't underestimate them. Apparently it only took 2 airliners to take out the worlds tallest buildings.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:27 PM
The Unabomber used 2300 kg of Ammonium Nitrate. To similar effect. Just to give you a like for like comparrison. 150kg od C4 is not really a lot. In a small space yes, but would not take down a whole city. However, 1500kg is a sizable amount and likewise 150,000 kg would be a big boom boom.

posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:41 PM
here ya go,

Less than a pound of C-4 could potentially kill several people and several military issued M112 blocks of C-4, weighing about 1.25 pounds (half a kilogram) each, could potentially demolish a truck.
The Most Powerful Non-nuclear Explosives in the World

it was suggested that 5000 lbs C-4 or equal to 20 to 30,000 lbs of tnt was used to blowup the Khobar Towers in Khobar, Saudi Arabia.

The attackers were reported to have smuggled explosives into Saudi Arabia from Lebanon. Al-Mughassil, Al-Houri, Al-Sayegh, Al-Qassab, and the unidentified Lebanese man bought a large gas tanker truck in early June 1996 in Saudi Arabia. Over a two-week period they converted it into a truck bomb. The group now had about 5,000 pounds of plastic explosives, enough to produce a shaped charge that detonated with the force of at least 20,000 pounds of TNT, according to a later assessment of the Defense Special Weapons Agency. The power of the blast was magnified several ways. The truck itself shaped the charge by directing the blast toward the building. Moreover, the relatively high clearance between the truck and the ground gave it the more lethal characteristics of an airburst.[4]
It was originally estimated by U.S. authorities to have contained 3,000 to 5,000 pounds of explosives. Later the General Downing report on the incident suggested that the explosion contained the equivalent of 20,000 to 30,000 pounds of TNT. The attackers prepared for the attack by hiding large amounts of explosive materials and timing devices in paint cans and 50-kilogram bags underground in Qatif, a city near Khobar. The bomb was a mixture of gasoline and explosive powder placed in the tank of a sewage tanker truck.[5]
Khobar Towers bombing

the attraction of C-4 is the stability and ease of use. can be molded to any shape.
330lbs can do a lot of damage but couldn't cause a explosion large enough to demolish a small city unless it is very very small.

the U.S. M183 "demolition charge assembly" is 16 block of C-4 weighing 1.25lbs each.

Military grade C-4 is commonly packaged as the M112 demolition block. The demolition charge M112 is a rectangular block of Composition C-4 approximately 2 inches by 1.5 inches and 11 inches long, weighing 1.25 Lbs.[11][12] The M112 is wrapped in a sometimes olive color Mylar-film container with a pressure-sensitive adhesive tape on one surface.[13][14]
The M112 demolition blocks of C-4 are commonly manufactured into the M183 "demolition charge assembly",[12] which consists of 16 M112 block demolition charges and four priming assemblies packaged inside military Carrying Case M85. The M183 is used to breach obstacles or demolish large structures where larger satchel charges are required. Each Priming assembly includes a five-, or twenty-foot length of detonating cord assembled with detonating cord clips and capped at each end with a booster. When the charge is detonated, the explosive is converted into compressed gas. The gas exerts pressure in the form of a shock wave, which demolishes the target by cutting, breaching, or cratering.[11]
Other forms include the mine-clearing line charge (MICLIC) and M18A1 Claymore Mine.[7]
C-4 (explosive)

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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 08:10 PM
I'm not too worried about ISIS deploying a dirty bomb, because the only real damage it will cause would be from the explosives themselves. The radioactive material scattered by the conventional blast would very rarely be lethal. If this were cesium then the dangers would be greater, but the uranium itself is not going to provide a lethal dose, even if none of the contamination was cleaned up. The dose would no doubt be higher than one would wish to expose themselves to, but it would not cause outright death. Death from cancer later on would be the largest threat, and that doesn't help ISIS. It would be more of a terror weapon meant to instil fear as opposed to a practical weapon meant to inflict casualties. And the higher doses of radiation will be almost right on top of the blast site, so even if deployed in a city the majority of it will still be fine. It could be used for denying a specific area for some greater purpose, but again, the results are not going to be catastrophic by any means. In fact, it would likely do more harm to ISIS than good. I am convinced of as much, because such an act is really going to anger the majority of the world, and more pressure will be brought to bear on ISIS. And they would have killed a small number of individuals in compensation.

Anyway, to the point of the thread. I agree with the OP that this cache of weapons likely originated from ISIS, and was meant to be used inside Turkey in retaliation to Turkish action. I do not know if the weapons were there long before Turkey decided to combat ISIS, but it wouldn't surprise me, as ISIS would have wanted to means in place for some type of insurance just in case Turkey did not give them what they wanted. I see no other group amassing this big of an arms cache, although it is not out of the realm of possibility. ISIS would never have placed these weapons in Turkey unless they were meant to be used there. If they wanted to use them in Iraq and Syria then the only reason they would be in Turkey is because they are trying to get them further south, which is also a possibility. But they wouldn't sit there for long, and apparently they've been there long enough for the police to figure out something was up and take action.

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