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Ohio pastor forced vasectomies, abortions because kids divert money away from church: report

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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:19 PM
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www.rawstory.com...

More from "you just can't make this **** up dept."



Former members of Grace Cathedral have accused televangelist Ernest Angley of forcing them to have abortions, and vasectomies. And they said that he sexually abused boys in the church, which he has denied.

In the first part of a six-part series on Sunday, the Akron Beacon Journal said that church members had provided it with a recording of a recent church service where 93-year-old televangelist Ernest Angley addressed accusations that he had inappropriately touched a former pastor.

“I’m not a homosexual. God wouldn’t use a homosexual like he uses me. He calls me his prophet, and indeed I am,” Angley explained. “They called Jesus a homosexual, did you know that? And still do. Because he was with men.”


I used to watch Rev. Angley all the time when he was on TV. He was in the top five of religious entertainers right up there with Jim and Tammy Baker, Oral Roberts, Jimmy Swaggert and Gene Scott.

Here is some classic Rev. Angley...
www.youtube.com...


I think what HST said about the music business also applies to TV preachers.

"It's a cruel and plastic money trench, where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs...there's also a negative side"

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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:22 PM
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From the looks of him he'll be adding a lot of heat to hell.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:34 PM
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My favorite part of his defense:

“They had their misgivings,” he recalled. “Sure, I’d have them uncover themselves, but I did not handle them at all.”

“And I would tell them how that would work. And they’d have to watch it. I’d have some of them come back to me that I felt needed to. And I would tell them, I would look at them, their privates — I, so I could tell how they were swelling,” the pastor told the congregation. “I was a farm boy. We thought nothing about undressing. We didn’t know about homosexuals. We talked about women.”


Translation: "I'm not a homosexual. I just like to have boys undress in front of me and counsel them how to use their private parts, but I'm not a homosexual. I like to talk about women!"

LOL what an ass.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

'Murican Christianity.... Synthesizing classical biblical narratives with the values of corporatism.

e.g. profits over people.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: InverseLookingGlass

Actually it's not exclusive to Christianity. All religions are led by greedy, divisive people who only want to control/manipulate people and profit off of them.

Religion is not the problem, the people in control of it are.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:44 PM
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He's not content to just spew bull pucky from his mouth. He actually wears it on his head.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Oh be honest. You're just mad because he's asking them to give the money to the church instead of the government. It's not the fact that he's urging population control at all ...




posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingmereligion is flawed becouse man is flawed, as for that guy he needs locking up for life, The catholic church is greedy they claim to help people but hold millions in assets, thats greed.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:49 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


originally posted by: olaru12
More from "you just can't make this **** up dept."


Well ... it is from "Raw Story" so it CAN be made up.
They are notorious for fake inflammatory partisan headlines.
Lets' go to the source that they quote for this story ...

Akron Beacon Journal
One news source is reporting this - the Akron Beacon Journal.
There are allegations by some parishioners ... but no proof presented.
The pastor is 93 years old. He sounds rambling and kind of out of it.

The allegations may be all true, they may be partly true, or they may be false.
The pastor may be suffering from age related dementia or he may not be.

There needs to be more information, more reporting, and some actual proof of the allegations. Medical paperwork from the people about 'forced vasectomies or forced abortions' .... etc. So far it's just a group of people making allegations ...

This should be investigated further to see if what they say is true or not.
We can't say, at this time, if it is or if it isn't.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: olaru12

Oh be honest. You're just mad because he's asking them to give the money to the church instead of the government. It's not the fact that he's urging population control at all ...



I'm not mad! How did you get that idea? People can spend their money however they want. I'm not a Democrat and I don't support Obama; so your lame attempt at an insult is uber fail. Rev. Angley can promote any BS he wants; I don't care. I just think American culture is the most entertaining thing out there. That encompasses politics, religion, fashion, music, etc...especially when it transcends into the surreal and bizarre, like the Rev. A.

Don't let your ideology get in the way of your common sense.
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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:55 PM
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What the hell!

I just got healed against my will!




Bastard!

Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Baker, Paul and Jan Crouch....

"A fool and his money are soon parted"



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:58 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Yeah I agree with that. It's not as if the government doesn't force vasectomies, and we all know they most certainly don't support abortion



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Where do you think I said anything about Obama and Democrats. I simply said government. I know you support stripping the tax exempt status from churches that's all.

But I will so note that you do not take jokes well for future reference.




posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: olaru12

Where do you think I said anything about Obama and Democrats. I simply said government. I know you support stripping the tax exempt status from churches that's all.





Correct, I absolutely do support taking the tax exempt status from churches and here's why.....

www.youtube.com...


www.youtube.com...

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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

As far as the birth control bit, I say okay. At least they won't breed more idiots to follow him that way.
For the rest of it. Hang him.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 02:56 PM
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How can people still think religion is a good thing?



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 03:34 PM
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originally posted by: SomePeople
How can people still think religion is a good thing?


Because they worship authority and need to be lead and it gives them comfort in knowing someone or something has the knowledge that they lack and will take up the slack for their ignorance. And apparently they will pay handsomely for the privilege of being taken advantage of. Or belonging to a group that supports their ignorance. Group manipulation is actually very easy if you know the methodology.

www.miltontimmons.com...

Religions are basically just cults with lots of followers.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

I noticed someone had been using rawstory a lot and was wondering myself about that site, ty



posted on Oct, 14 2014 @ 02:10 AM
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Another Tax Haven bites the dust.



posted on Oct, 19 2014 @ 11:02 PM
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originally posted by: SomePeople
How can people still think religion is a good thing?


It is possible to believe in religion, just not the men who preach it.

For what it's worth.



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