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Racism and Ebola - A Bigger Conspiracy Picture.

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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 08:36 AM
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I want to give credit to Char-Lee who replied in my Dick Gregory Ebola Conspiracy Thread as the inspiration behind this post:

originally posted by: Char-Lee
Just a thought, what if the whole thing is part of an ongoing mission to destabilize and cause hate between races and other factions?
The CDC is run by the military is it not? What is all this is to spread fear and marshal law? Maybe it is not even Ebola.


That actually made me wonder and do research amidst ATS manic panic and sensationalizing about Ebola about the implications of Racism within Ebola and if there is a bigger agenda about the "pandemic" than anyone is actually recognizing. Considering that anytime a "breaking news" item hits about Ebola, its all over ATS - there are more Ebola posts now than anything else. So let's take a step back from the phobia and look at what could be behind door number 2.

Let's look at Europe a minute.
Ebola Fueled Racism is on the Rise in Europe. The title definitely stands out. Racism towards people of color across Europe has been intensified since the economic downturn of 2008. I know specifically in Italy and Greece the violence has become both verbal and specifically in Greece physical. The appointment of Cecile Kyenga as the first black Minister of Integration has prompted people to throw bananas and call her monkey in rallies she speaks in. If you tan or show any color anywhere you are considered African. The unemployment, the collapsing of the economy by outside interests, and just people being in self isolated communities and forced into open borders through EU citizenship have created as much racism as during the Mussolini era. Spain has always had racist sentiments towards people of color historically and in current times it is no different. Here is an overview synopsis of being of color and traveling to other countries Worst Countries For People Of Color To Travel Some of the things the article has mentioned I have seen personally with acquaintances and friends and I have also seen skinheads go after anybody that wasn't blonde and blue eyed in the Czech Republic.

Now imagine societies that are already pissed off about their collapsing countries and then attach Ebola as a colored person's disease and we have a heightened dangerous implosion from these societies around the world. Granted, I'm sure this will distract people from remembering all that Polio dumped into the Belgium waterways.

Now let's look at America:
From what I've seen on the America MSM, there is a racial slant being aimed in the background behind the coverage. There was a difference in how people reacted to the "good" white humanitarian nurse given "treatment" in Atlanta CDC Emory than the demonization of the Liberian in Dallas who died. Look at how the two's backgrounds were laid out in the media and where sympathy lies. Details are being held away from the public on the backgrounds of the people coming down "with symptoms" and we know actors are being hired to go to hospitals and play like they are sick, also black. I doubt seriously a white guy is going to Bellvue in NYC. While white people could be exposed, in America we haven't seen them. We've seen the black ones. And that is telling.

On the flip side I've seen, heard, and read from Black Americans that they feel Ebola is like Tuskegee and that they feel they are being targeted like AIDS. Most have used the argument that they "cured" the white woman in Atlanta, but all the blacks with the illness here have died - and they feel that is on purpose. Louis Farrakhan came out and said Ebola was manufactured to kill blacks. Jesse Jackson went down to Dallas and tried to stir up racial sentiment that the Liberian guy died as a result of racial negligence. (Granted, I don't like Jesse and detest him in moral fiber as he is a narcissistic media whore). Regardless of their background, most people are quick to say they "race bait". But let's be real here, the US has committed atrocities medically against blacks since slavery. Henrietta Lacks comes to mind. And Tuskegee went through the presidencies of Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon. Not one POTUS stopped it, and the exposure of the program in the early 70s is what got a commission to desanction it. Then a few years later, AIDS. AIDS, which kills only gay guys in two major cities first, and then morphs to become a thriving killer amongst blacks by the mid 90s. See Delta Gene. Here is Dr. Boyd Graves research on the subject: Delta 32 + Gene. With information like this, why wouldn't they feel the US government is at it again? At least Farrakhan has more credibility than Alex Jones.

For those not convinced, please read or at least check out Dr. Harriet Washington's book Medical Apartheid which gives a nice comprehensive overview of all of the US medical experiments against blacks since the founding of the colonies, starting with infecting blacks with smallpox to test a vaccine before giving it to white colonists.

I've seen on ATS a lot of racist commentary (involuntary) and response about Ebola being "an Africa disease". It is not an African disease. It is a US disease, with American entities like NIH, Bill Gates, and the CDC as well as the government holding the patents. US Ebola Patent Article and Africans of different nations are being forced into being the guinea pig for it. ATS has enough threads about Bill Gates' role in doing nefarious things to people of color, CDC, and the government. In fact, Ebola and AIDS almost in onslaught look identical in implementation and blame. And as I have said on countless Ebola threads, EBOLA HAS BEEN HERE. Now its subconsciously being purported as a "black illness" even though we know it doesn't care what color you are BUT we cannot ignore the fact that the US can have strains that specifically target certain people on the basis of DNA and genetics. See AIDS and the Delta Gene.

Keep in mind that overseas you are "black" if you have any color whatsoever. You don't necessarily have to be of African descent. They are literally looking at complexion. I have read and seen some people come out and say countries should be for the people of them, I've seen Italy for White Italians, France for White Frenchmen. Some people think all black people should go back to Africa, like Africa is a country. It is a continent made up of countries that have been exploited by most of the Western world since the Roman Empire. It just got uglier after slavery and the scramble for Africa.

Since people of color are the majority, and there are countries like Canada promoting irrational immigration laws that work against people not white maintaining citizenship (ala it a privilege), is this a bigger clandestine movement to decrease the majority of colored persons around the world?



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: ArchPlayer
is this a bigger clandestine movement to decrease the majority of colored persons around the world?


No.
It's not.
But I guess that statement makes me a racist huh?


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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 08:52 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


originally posted by: ArchPlayer
There was a difference in how people reacted to the "good" white humanitarian nurse given "treatment" in Atlanta CDC Emory than the demonization of the Liberian in Dallas who died.

The nurse contracted ebola while helping people and she didn't lie about it nor did she risk infecting others. The Liberian man contracted ebola and lied about having been in contact with it. He went on a cross world airplane trip without regard for the lives of others. He put people in Dallas at risk and is directly responsible for the second infection in Dallas.


Most have used the argument that they "cured" the white woman in Atlanta, but all the blacks with the illness here have died - and they feel that is on purpose.

The nurse was cured because her infection was caught early and she didn't delay treatment by telling lies or by traveling around the world with it. I also believe her bloodtype matched that of a survivor so she was able to receive transfusions of antibodies from another survivor. The Liberian in Dallas wasn't treated until much later because of his own deceit. Also he did NOT have a blood type that matched the surviving ebola patients so he couldn't have a blood transfusion of antibodies.


Louis Farrakhan came out and said ...

... a typical load of self serving nonsense.


we cannot ignore the fact that the US can have strains that specifically target certain people on the basis of DNA and genetics.

Fact? really? It's a fact that the USA has ebola strains dedicated to certain genetic types?

Ebola is coming out of West Africa and it doesn't care who it kills and it doesn't check a persons skin color before striking. The hospital in Dallas gave Dallas patient zero the same care that they'd give anyone else regardless of race or income.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 08:55 AM
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I think that it's more about fearing getting Ebola and the ongoing mass immigration that is showing no signs of stopping that is getting people angry.

I honestly think that some people are looking for racism where is isn't any in this situation.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:08 AM
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I don't get it, if AIDS was created to kill or "thin out" the number of black people...why can everybody else get it?
why make something that takes sometimes more than 20 years to kill you? why not something for time and cost efficient?
why can't it be that black people in the 90's were way more careless, perhaps under-educated? that would make more sense, given the discrimination that was still very much alive in the 90's, so yes, you can say people turned their backs on black people and kept them in the dark about aids.
While discrimination does exist, saying that a virus was built specifically to target a certain race is a huge stretch, especially considering it does a crappy job sticking to the race it was designed to kill.

As for the places mentioned, i lived 17 years in sicily. and we have always been accepting of diversity.
If needed i can bring up tons of movies (the classic sexy comedies) where black women were seen as incredibly desirable, goddesses.

As for Africa being exploited, there is no doubt about that. it always has been.
The uncomfortable question to ask is exactly how/why did a majority allow a very small minority to take over, and never did anything about it, they could have taken back Africa by sheer numbers alone.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:08 AM
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Yes, it's true the government did some extremely unethical things like the Tuskegee syphilis experiments. And yes, there have been examples of governments being...kinder...to those of certain beliefs and pigmentations than others. But I am also under the impression that the ATs motto is "deny ignorance". Ebola is one mean mean SOB. It doesn't care if you're black, white or green, if you're gay or straight. This type of "Ebola is being used to target blacks!" is at best the worst type of conspiranoia and at worst fearporn aimed at causing panic and manufactured outrage. We have quite of to be angry about without creating straw bogeymen. Just my two cents.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:41 AM
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a reply to: ArchPlayer




Since people of color are the majority, and there are countries like Canada promoting irrational immigration laws that work against people not white maintaining citizenship (ala it a privilege), is this a bigger clandestine movement to decrease the majority of colored persons around the world?


CIA brought crack coc aine to urban streets of the USA. USG killed JFK, MLK, RFK and Malcolm X, FBI actively smearing Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson. Eric Holder resigns shortly after visiting Ferguson MI. Naaa, nothing to see here. Go back to sleep.


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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: InverseLookingGlass



FBI actively smearing Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson.

Were this to be true, it would be a terrible waste of money.
They smear themselves quite nicely every time they open their pieholes.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:52 AM
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Oh good, another racism thread.

As long as you keep bringing it up it is alive and well.

The subject bores me to tears. I could care less about racism.

Grow the "F" up!



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:03 AM
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Interesting then that Obama, a black President,

with a black wife and black children

whose african family still resides in Africa

would be part of a conspiracy to get rid of black people


Seeing as how he is the President and ultimately responsible
for everything the US does covertly.

Well, just interesting this claim is made

since the President would have to be in on it.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: IShotMyLastMuse
I don't get it, if AIDS was created to kill or "thin out" the number of black people...why can everybody else get it?
why make something that takes sometimes more than 20 years to kill you? why not something for time and cost efficient?
why can't it be that black people in the 90's were way more careless, perhaps under-educated? that would make more sense, given the discrimination that was still very much alive in the 90's, so yes, you can say people turned their backs on black people and kept them in the dark about aids.
While discrimination does exist, saying that a virus was built specifically to target a certain race is a huge stretch, especially considering it does a crappy job sticking to the race it was designed to kill.

As for the places mentioned, i lived 17 years in sicily. and we have always been accepting of diversity.
If needed i can bring up tons of movies (the classic sexy comedies) where black women were seen as incredibly desirable, goddesses.

As for Africa being exploited, there is no doubt about that. it always has been.
The uncomfortable question to ask is exactly how/why did a majority allow a very small minority to take over, and never did anything about it, they could have taken back Africa by sheer numbers alone.




There are certain strains of AIDS that affect certain people based on genetic heredity. That isn't a conspiracy or myth that is fact. Why make up a disease that can take 20 or more years to kill you - BECAUSE it ensures that should you procreate your offspring will be fcked up mentally and physically. That is, if you can populate at all. Look at the Tuskegee experiment. 200 black guys injected unbeknownst to them with syphillis to study the effects within their black communities for 40 years. Then go through the worst imaginable pain and agony in process as they spread it to their women and possible children. Since when has the US been cost effective as conquering people and places?

Black people were not exclusive to being careless sexually, but it seems odd doesn't it that a disease that begins as a "gay cancer" in to cities opposite and separate by 3K miles east to west coming from a Patient Zero Canadian Gay Flight Attendant turns into a epidemic amongst heterosexual black women 15 years later. Sorry, undereducated is not the word. Misinfo and maybe hidden info not released to the public. THAT makes more sense. Especially considering the argument within the LGBT community centers around white issues and historically has ignored blacks - so when dealing with AIDS they don't consider them in thought as apart of the problem and therefore not considered apart of the solution regardless of sexuality; I bring this up to say most ads are centered around this demographic.

It isn't a far stretch considering Dr. Boyd Graves and another prominent doctor did a lot of research to prove that a strain of AIDS was targeted to thrive from the Delta32+ gene, which is only found in people of African descent. That is not to say it is exclusively for them - I have said that the strain that took out the white gay population was a different strain entirely and since the first and second wave of AIDS white gay men have not had the types of infection and death numbers since. Remember when this thing hit, white gay guys were dropping like flies between 78-82.

My significant other is from Italy, Catania to be exact, and from the stories I've heard, interacting with the in-law families, I don't see an "acceptance of diversity". What I see is a toleration, especially if the tolerable point is male offspring. I see a significant difference in treatment in the darker side of the family, the side that is mixed, and a difference between the colored boys and girls. Granted, nothing to the same ilk of the Northern family in Emile-Romanga - the racism up there is intense!

As far as Africa, it was conquered one country at a time, one villiage, and one tribe at a time. During the Scramble for Africa it was a full on attack. Shaka Zulu was a powerful warrior, but a spear is no match for a musket and a cannonball. Namibia went through a genocide holocaust by the Germans in the early 20th century before WW1 and they got them through chemical warfare in their food, water, and air. 90% of the indigenous population wiped out in 4 years. People tried doing something about it, but keep in mind, Africa is a continent, not a country. It's 4x bigger than Europe. Between England, France, Portugal, Belgium, Neatherlands, Spain Africa was attacked on 6 fronts. It helped that removing entire nations of people in slavery did lower resistance in vacant areas.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:25 AM
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It is not an African disease.


Exactly. It's a disease that has it's origins in Africa.

And it isn't an American virus either, we just have the scientists working on a cure.




It is a US disease, with American entities like NIH, Bill Gates, and the CDC as well as the government holding the patents.


I take it you don't understand the reasoning for that do you?



Now its subconsciously being purported as a "black illness"


Only in your mind is that happening.



Keep in mind that overseas you are "black" if you have any color whatsoever.


And exactly what countries would those be that say this? I didn't know the Klan had it's own country.



I have read and seen some people come out and say countries should be for the people of them, I've seen Italy for White Italians, France for White Frenchmen.


You may want to stay away from the supremacists websites then, because that isn't what most people in those countries think...sorry.



It is a continent made up of countries that have been exploited by most of the Western world since the Roman Empire. It just got uglier after slavery and the scramble for Africa.


You do understand that it was those who were in power that sold others into slavery...which means that would be not only white's but blacks also made the slave trade work.




Since people of color are the majority, and there are countries like Canada promoting irrational immigration laws that work against people not white maintaining citizenship (ala it a privilege), is this a bigger clandestine movement to decrease the majority of colored persons around the world?


And Ebola was invented to do this...surely you can't be serious?



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:32 AM
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Look.... if this was an agenda driven disease to kill a lot of black people, why would all these Doctors and Nurses of 'White' Ethnicity be going to Africa to help?

Don't be so silly.

Its a disease which came out of the Jungle and unfortunately it started in Africa because of their 'living' conditions. For the most part, they live in #! If you live in #, be prepared to get infected with #.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: ArchPlayer




Since people of color are the majority, and there are countries like Canada promoting irrational immigration laws that work against people not white maintaining citizenship (ala it a privilege), is this a bigger clandestine movement to decrease the majority of colored persons around the world?


CIA brought crack coc aine to urban streets of the USA. USG killed JFK, MLK, RFK and Malcolm X, FBI actively smearing Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson. Eric Holder resigns shortly after visiting Ferguson MI. Naaa, nothing to see here. Go back to sleep.


Any person who includes Jessie Jackson and Sharpton in the same sentence with Martin Luther King Jr , needs to rethink their position......

Those two men are NOTHING like MLK........

They bring their own criticism with their racist actions.......

Ebola has nothing to do with race other then the fact that its FROM AFRICA......its named after the Ebola River where it originated for christ sake.......

If they stop people coming from AFRICA , where the disease is raging, thats not racist thats, COMMON SENSE......

Seriously political correctness is LITERALLY going to be the death of the US and I dont mean as a Nation I mean actual people DYING because of PC stupidity



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:52 AM
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Eric Holder resigns shortly after visiting Ferguson MI.


well he actually said he would at the beginning of this year.




U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder will step down this year, he said in an interview with the New Yorker’s Jeffrey Toobin in the magazine’s Feb. 17 edition.
Eric Holder to step down this year: report


so that one can't be used. there is even a thread or two about it on ATS.

not going to comment on any of the rest except to say that, is your claim about two of them a joke?, al and jesse smear themselves everytime they speak.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw
Obama is a puppet. They all are and I thought that was common knowledge on ATS. The Prez doesn't HAVE to be in on it. Ever heard of Black Ops? It aint just the name of a video game. And one more thing, that sheep herder from Kenya was NOT O's real father. Deny ignorance indeed.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 03:20 PM
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The phrase you're looking for is that you COULDN'T care less, not that you could care less. Anyway, good for you that you don't care about racism. It's not your kind so who cares, right? You can bring it up or not and it's STILL alive and well. Racism is not simply not liking someone because of their color. It's deeper than that. That's called being prejudiced or a bigot. Racism is when the majority race owns and operates pretty much everything and can exercise that power by making things very difficult for the minorities. Discrimination doesn't really exist, does it? FOH with that crap.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 03:28 PM
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I'm a disabled woman. I deal with my own issues.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 03:41 PM
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I say this with all the respect that I can muster, but there are some SERIOUSLY ignorant individuals on this thread. For the genious who said it's a jungle disease, BULLCRAP. Ebola was manufactured just like AIDS. And Africa Is made up MOSTLY of savannahs, deserts and mountains, and rain forests. Read a book and miss me with your not so veiled bigotry. That's like the media showing Detroit to the rest of the world and that's all they see, so they tend to think it represents our whole continent. REALLY? And just where has ebola been for ALL these years? Just all of a sudden popped back up. Yeah, right. And I wish closeted bigots would quit using that lame excuse that Africans sold slaves to slavers. Warring tribes held p.o.w's in more of an indentured servant than the way slavery was implemented in America. They were under the impression that's how they were going to be used in the new world. But, here's, the kicker, they came back and got them too. I didn't make this up, it's in slave trader logs from back then. Quit trying to downplay slavery like the slavemasters were nice guys. They were ANIMALS who sold their OWN mulatto offspring as slaves, offspring as the result of rape.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 04:06 PM
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I never mentioned anything about 'slavery'.

I was just stating that if you live in slums and eat unclean food, you are going to catch something.

This isn't 'our' fault they live in the slums, it's their Governments fault for not fixing the problem (with our AID money). Someone somewhere is taking a big percentage of that AID because it certainly not going to the people.







 
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