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1978 “Tour of South America” - Race Car Abduction

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posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 06:51 PM
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Once again, I’d like to share and discuss another UFO case probably unknown for many of our the members, another incredible old case from the romantic age of the ufology. This case contains more than one phenomenon, and goes from UFO/ALIEN adduction to government agents trying to silence the protagonists.

This time I’ve been able to find a good amount of information, but like most of the times nothing in English. Anyway, the good quantity and quality of the information available, forced me to share it. Just think about it, pilot and co-pilot abducted in the middle of a race, vehicle included. I won't even look if it's been posted already.


1978 UFO INCIDENT - PILOT AND CO-PILOT RALLY “TOUR OF SOUTH AMERICA” ABDUCTION.


Location: Route 3 crossing the dirt road leading to the village by Cardinal Cagliero (now R1) - El Carmen - Viedma - Province of Buenos Aires.

Witnesses: Miguel Angel Moya and Carlos Acevedo




Date: September 23, 1978

Time: approx. 3:00 a.m.

Authority Reported : Police of Pedro Luro (location, not a person). Inspector Daniel Osimi, officers Jesus Garcia and Jose Bordenave.

Secondary witnesses: Eduardo Forchesatto: (Gas station attendant).
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I found a good description of the event that I’ll proceed to translate instead than using my own words.

RAW TRANSLATION OF THE EVENT (with some corrections due google translator mistakes).

August 17, 1978, Carlos Acevedo and Hugo Prambs, left the city of Buenos Aires aboard a Citroen GS 1220, in fulfillment of the first stage of the Rally of South America, organized by the Argentina’s Automobile Club and the Bank of Regional Exchange.



The competition which participate in strenuous was true for men and machines: a true marathon of just over one month during which should unite Buenos Aires and Caracas (Venezuela) to return to the South American Pacific coast.



The crew of the Citroen #102 had to face many problems, especially in the last stages of the Rally, which determined that they should resign to continue participating in the competition. However, as a result of the determination of Acevedo and assistance from other competitors, they could "re-enlist" made effective after its abandonment, in order to complete the course.

On September 16, in the city of Bariloche, there was the desertion of Hugo Prambs for personal reasons and he was replaced by Miguel Angel Moya.


On the morning of September 23, Acevedo and Moya walked the last 1000 miles from Rally. At approximately 02:00 pm., They stopped at Viedma ACA gas station, province of Rio Negro (Black River) where they refueled fuel (filled the standard 50-liter tank and an additional 40 liter tank), drank coffee and chatted a few minutes with other competitors. A 02:30 pm. Citroen was the number 102 in route again due to Bahia Blanca, after crossing the Black River and through the city of El Carmen.

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posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 06:58 PM
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Carlos Acevedo was at the wheel of the Citroen. Suddenly he observed a very powerful light that was reflected in the rearview mirror of his car.

It was a dense light, a yellowish tint. At first it was distinguished only as a point on the mirror, but its size increased visibly.



Acevedo and Moya traveled in that time nearly 100 kilometers per hour. Despite this, the light seemed to come quickly, so Acevedo assumed it was the headlights of the cars of any class of larger displacement (Citroén 2400 or any of the Mercedes Benz), so decided to reduce significantly the speed of their car and stick to the right edge of the asphalt to facilitate the passage of what was supposed to be a competitor of the Rally.

The light kept coming at high speed. Suddenly the cabin of Citroén Acevedo and Moya was "filled" of light.

"Light flooded throughout the cabin and could not see past the hood of the car. It was a dense, very bright yellow with some light violet tints. At that time the car seemed out of control. I looked out the window and saw that we were about six feet of asphalt. I immediately thought I had missed a 'bump' and started leafleting, preparing for the time when we take contact to the road again, "said Acevedo.



However, the descending distance automobile seemed continue to rise uncontrollably.
"After a few seconds, I was, maybe 5 or 10 I reacted, did not realize that this was something completely abnormal. I wanted to look out the window again but all I saw was that dense light.

I remember I started to scream, but Moya did not answer me. When I looked to my right, my partner was not there, or at least I could not see. Actually I could not even see the dashboard. Just saw that light, dense liquid that looked like, I dunno, something like sticky, "Acevedo said.

Meanwhile, Miguel Angel Moya remained paralyzed by fear, and explained:

"At first I also thought for a “lomo de burro” (sort of natural speed bump) and scared me the possibility of a rollover, but when I noticed that the car seemed to float in the air and not frighten me down even more. It really was a situation he could not understand. I looked and saw Carlos rigid with outstretched arms clutching the steering wheel and the front sight pinned. It looked like he was screaming but I could not hear anything. I saw everything as through a yellow mist, as if I was distant, elsewhere.

I think my first reaction was to get out of there, and I wanted to open the door but could not, it seemed as welded. I noticed that the temperature was raised but maybe it was a product of my state of fear. Suddenly the light enveloped everything and I did not see anything, I think I even saw my hands or anything. "

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posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 07:03 PM
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The 2 men then lost track of time. Suddenly they felt a jolt and noticed that the car was back on earth. "I think we spent a minute or two, not sure, when I felt a slight jolt, but immediately had the impression that the car was back on the road.

Just then the yellow light became less intense and gradually I could see around me, I saw the board, the hood of the car. I looked out the window and saw the ground, we were on the shoulder of the wrong way on the left of the road, completely arrested. Suddenly the light left the cabin and noticed that retreating westward.

The light was something like a cone of yellow light, but came to a point but was truncated. It was four or five feet at the base and two or three at the top, and about six feet, maybe seven high. The base lit up the field, but really could not see the source. A few seconds after the light, how might say ... or retreated ?, rose like a curtain, from the bottom up, and all that was visible was a yellowish-white, oval light which continued westbound disappearing into the distancei" , said Acevedo.

Meanwhile, Moya took a few seconds to recover from the shock caused by the abnormal situation experienced:
"Suddenly it happened, and we were alone on the road, we look with Carlos but we could not tell us anything. I was like numb, my hands were shaking and I felt a tightness in his chest, I could hardly breathe. "

Acevedo and Moya were silent for a few seconds, without managing to take any action or activity. Finally, Acevedo dropped the vehicle, as He said, "see if everything was in place." Just a minute later rose again to Citroén and overdrive continued Route 3 northbound.

After 15 minutes of running, more or less Citroen Chilean crew arrived at number 102 Pedro Luro, a town in the province of Buenos Aires, 123 miles north of El Carmen. They stopped at a gas station to find out the location of a police detachment, and deciding control instrumental automotive, noted two abnormal events: the odometer readings recorded a travel of 52 kilometers, from the city of Viedma to P. Luro, when the actual distance between the two locations is 127 miles; moreover, had arrived to Pedro Luro at 05:10 hours, having left the area of El Carmen at 02:50 hours approximately.

Having made the journey at an average speed of 100 kilometers per hour should not have spend more than 75 minutes to cover the distance between the two points, but actually had used 2 hours 20 minutes.


The 2 men noticed a third inexplicable fact: when deciding fill the main fuel tank found that the secondary tank was completely empty, even though it had been filled with 40 liters in the city of Viedma.

The explicit facts confused them more and decided to report the facts to the police of Pedro Luro. There were diligently served by the official inspector Daniel Osimi, whom they related the details of the incident and asked them escort until the city of Bahia Blanca.

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posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 07:13 PM
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Even if the description you just read seems to be detailed, some important information was not included. Patricio Bañados, (my favorite Chilean journalist) investigated the case. Found an contacted Moya and after a year insisting Moya for an interview, he reopened the case with new information Moya didn’t shared yet, probably fearing consequences. Here some notes from the youtube videos interview.




Video Part 2 seems to be the most important :

03:15. Moya explains he saw a “DNA” type light around them when they were inside a room.

05:50 to 07:40. They found considerable amount of gas in the car was lost. Met he Rally staff and were told that they were around 2 hours earlier, distance traveled was impossible for the time frame. Rally staff call by radio to previous 4 check points and asked if they saw Acevedo-Moya’s vehicle, first 3 checkpoints answer was negative, only the fourth one confirmed they saw them passing.

Later it was verified that there were not any shortcut or detour that could be used, the rally’s road taken by Acevedo and Moya was the only one.

08:20 Moya tells when anther pilot arrives emotionally affected saying he run out of gas and battery and he was confused and disoriented.

9:15 Already in Buenos Aires, “people” came to Moya and Acevedo to ask them to not talk about the incident because it wasn’t convenient to do so. These persons presented themselves as Argentinean Air Force officers.

In a second opportunity also in Bueno Aires, another 4 persons approached to them, took them to a Pizzeria and asked them for all their clothes and personal objects and also took the vehicle with them, telling Moya and Acevedo to not share the story because “you don’t know anything….”.

Mr. Bañados knew there was something more that Moya didn’t shared with him yet, he insisted one more time and finally Moya told him what else happened to him few weeks later.

Carlos (Acevedo) and 2 more persons went inside the room where Moya was sleeping and found him levitating, only with his feet touching the bed. He woke up in time to see how Carlos pushed him down to the bed.

PDF File here : www.cefora.com.ar...
Police report scans here : www.cefora.com.ar...

Sources :

idrec.com.ar...
www.visionovni.com.ar...
www.scribd.com...
factorelblog.com...

Only english version found : inexplicata.blogspot.com...
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posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 07:21 PM
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Well written and researched, kudos OP..

I haven't heard this story before.. this is one of the reasons why i love ATS..



posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: HooHaa

Thank you. It really was a little bit hard to put together, considering sources are in other language. I tried to find english version of those videos too but no luck.



posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 08:00 PM
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1978 Huh? I saw a lot of things back then too.

By the way...EXCELLECENT post! S+F

I'm still trying to wrap my head around all of it.



posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: Trueman

This the first case I've heard fuel was missing. . .
I'm wondering if they made a mistake or tried to cheat and used the ufo story as a cover.

Not that I'm disputing it entirely, I love these stories. Just try to rule out interference so all I'm left with is the fact this may have been an abduction.

Thanks for posting!

Add: I'm a little confused if they were 2 hours early or if they were late - 75 minutes took 2 hours 20 minutes.
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posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 08:18 PM
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originally posted by: AnteBellum
a reply to: Trueman

This the first case I've heard fuel was missing. . .
I'm wondering if they made a mistake and used the ufo story as a cover.

Not that I'm disputing it entirely, I love these stories. Just try to rule out interference so all I'm left with is the fact this may have been an abduction.

Thanks for posting!


I understand your point. That is very intriging to mee too. Seems to be missing about 100 liters of fuel. I would like to know how many kilometers per liter that car made. Also consider the 75 kilometers missing in the odometer reading. Even if the car was in idle for 2 or 3 hours, it wouldn't justify the missing gas. Crazy right?



posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: AnteBellum
a reply to: Trueman

Add: I'm a little confused if they were 2 hours early or if they were late - 75 minutes took 2 hours 20 minutes.


They were earlier,



05:50 to 07:40. They found considerable amount of gas in the car was lost. Met he Rally staff and were told that they were around 2 hours earlier, distance traveled was impossible for the time frame. Rally staff call by radio to previous 4 check points and asked if they saw Acevedo-Moya’s vehicle, first 3 checkpoints answer was negative, only the fourth one confirmed they saw them passing.

Later it was verified that there were not any shortcut or detour that could be used, the rally’s road taken by Acevedo and Moya was the only one.


It's still not clear to me, the report seems opposite to what Moya declared on the video, he said they were earlier but the report says they took more time. Very confusing.
edit on 11-10-2014 by Trueman because: reviewing data



posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: Trueman

It must be a translation issue, I researched - tried to research the event with the ufo lasers shooting people many years ago in SA and found the same issues with dialect and language idiosyncrasies.

Can't remember what the name of that was now???
I've been up to long today.



posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: AnteBellum

I think you are referring to the so-called Thor laser mounted on Mirages (and downed some sort of craft over the Kalahari). I really have my doubts about that incident for various reasons (don't want to derail the thread)

OP Great post - the first I have heard of this one - thanks for posting!



posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: Trueman

My husband is an Alien. What now?



posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 02:35 AM
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a reply to: Trueman

Excellent post Trueman


I particularly enjoyed reading Acevedo's remarks about the qualities of the light in this experience: viscous, dense and 'looked liquid.'

There have been similar remarks made in reported cases ranging from the USA to Europe and Australia. Well known UFO researchers like Dick Hall and Mike Swords have detailed reports involving cars and unusual light characteristics. There's also a small number of 1970s reports that involved cars apparently being lifted by these 'solid' light beams. Dick Hall listed a couple of dozen in the 'UFO Evidence: A Thirty Year Report; Volume 2' where people reported peculiar light and/or effects on vehicles.

Acevedo describes his car being 'lifted' in '78 and a year later in Minnesota, Deputy Sheriff Val Johnson described a fast approaching light that resulted in his car being smashed up.


Deputy Sheriff Val Johnson of Marshall County was on duty that night, driving not far from the North Dakota border, when at around 1:40 a.m. he saw a light through his side window. It was obviously not on a road and looked too glaring to be a car headlight. He first thought it might be a small plane on or very near the ground. He turned left on another road to try to get closer to the light to identify it. Suddenly, the light moved toward him, travelling so fast that it almost instantaneously was upon his car (covering an estimated mile and a half). Johnson was blinded by the brilliance of the light and heard glass breaking, then lost consciousness.
UFOSkeptic - Val Johnson vehicle interference case

From a sceptical perspective, the empty gas tank could be telling. For arguments sake, would it be possible that they had entered a dissociative state and driven aimlessly for the missing time? This does happen with night drivers and I've 'zoned out' and missed my junction once or twice after long night drives on motorways. We should be able to calculate the mileage of the vehicle and the empty tank to see the approximate distance. From there, if the possible mileage coincides with the missing time, we'll have a better idea of what might have occurred.

Hopefully, I'll return to the thread with something more, but I have a few obligations this morning.



posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 03:04 AM
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Another interesting case that we never get to hear about. Seems all the old cases from the 70's/80's are the best. Travis Walton, Cash-Landrum, now this...excellent..S&F



posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 05:40 AM
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Another interesting detail I forgot to mention before, the first video, at 06:40, shows an old interview made to Carlos Acevedo (the pilot), he describe the experience like almost spiritual. When they were in the room, he noticed the ability to observe everything at the same time, like a 360 degrees eye.

Carlos Acevedo died in 1987, in a car accident. I couldn't find more details about the accident, as a ATS member, that bothers me.

Also, I found the declaration of an ecuadorian pilot, Edmundo Carvajal, who found Acevedo and Moya when they stopped at the gas station.



RAW TRANSLATION:

But, in addition to competing, both lived the anecdote about the alleged sighting of a UFO witnessed by a couple of Chilean pilots. The curious situation arose in the last but one stage of the rally organized by the Automobile Club of Argentina. "We were leaving the stage to Comodoro Rivadavia Bahía Blanca". Former tricolor pilot says it was in a regular stage when the event occurred.

"The Citroën vehicle from a Chilean businessman surnamed Acevedo overtook us before a curve, and then came a very long, straight typical of the Pampas, 80 km to 100 km long. After the bend, I do not see him again. That caught our attention, because the vehicle was not at such high speed, to the point of not seeing and lights. "

At dawn, Carvajal and Ranft arrived at a gas station, where they found out the car Carlos Acevedo, Miguel Angel Moya copilot sitting in and with many people around.

"Upon arrival, we asked them what had happened, because we saw them extremely nervous, and he told us that, after the long straight, at some point, viewed from behind a very bright light was coming and they thought it was one of the Mercedes Benz were winning the rally. They were to stand aside to let pass, but the light became more intense and not passed, but rather set up. "

"Light up our car," have told Acevedo Carvajal. "We transported by air not many seconds, in the end, they were thrown out of fuel near a fuel station. He recovered from the shock, but the passenger was pale and in shock, "said Carvajal.

esencia21.wordpress.com...



posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 07:05 AM
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Fuel economy is roughly 30mpg although we’d have to expect less than that due to the way a race car is driven. It’ll be going into corners in 2nd gear and accelerating out near the red-line coming out. Possibly 20mpg? From the 40 litre tank, we could expect the car to travel some 160 miles. This would have been easy to do in 2 hours and 20 minutes.

I'm not saying that's exactly what happened as we don't have enough information to know what happened! Still, the missing fuel doesn't seem as dramatic to the story.




Suddenly the light vanished from the passenger compartment and saw it fading away into the west, like a cone of yellow light, but one that didn’t end in a tip, it was somewhat truncated. I don’t know. It might have measured some five meters at the base and two or three at the cusp, measuring some six or seven meters in height. The base lit the ground, ahtough you really couldn’t see what it was lighting, that is to say, you couldn’t see through the light. A few seconds later, the light…how can I explain it? …retracted itself or drew up like a curtain, from bottom to top, and all that remained in view was an oval, whitish-yellow light that kept heading west until it vanished in the distance,” said Acevedo.
Scott Corales' Inexplicata blog

The light characteristics are, once more, familiar as they feature in many cases that I've read over the years. In fact, the majority of UFO reports involve lights in one form or other. Dr Paul Hill spent many pages explaining why light frequencies might be an outcome of the speculated means of motion associated with close encounters.

As a case by itself, it shares features with the Hills 'abduction' and many other reported cases of abduction from the early 80s. The vehicle interference aspects have been listed by Vallee, Dick Hall and several others since the 60s too. Mike Swords has also spent a little time discussing 'slow light' over at his excellent Big Study blog.

The 'cone-like light' is reminiscent of the Wanaque Reservoir report from the 60s. This is purported to be an untouched photograph (chuckle) and I'm just using it to illustrate the notion of peculiar lights...




posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: bludragin
a reply to: Trueman

My husband is an Alien. What now?


Off-Topic:
Prepare to be probed
anally
until death do you part


On-topic: I have never heard this case before.
thanks for bringing it to my attention
Just when you thought you heard'em all



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: spoonbender

I did not post the above. Confused. I did post this, however:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Oct, 14 2014 @ 04:00 AM
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Wonder if the two guys were having a 'Cheech & Chong' moment


The oddity is the fuel, why would a UFO steal the fuel?

Even if the drivers foot was stuck full on the accelerator I doubt you could empty a tank that fast and its more likely the engine would have burnt out first..




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