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Deserter: Iraq war is 'illegal'

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posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 01:46 PM
"Damned if you do and damned if you don't." - S. Milosovich.
Bosnia :- purpose ? Genocide, ethnic cleansing ?
Iraq :- purpose ???????????

posted on Dec, 11 2004 @ 12:11 AM

Originally posted by Nygdan
However, that doesn't mean that he can't be punished for disobeying an order merely because he thought it was illegal when it actually wasn't.

Originally posted by Durden
However, it is also clear that the soldier in question may have made an error of judgment and the court has the final say.

It would seem we actually agree on this one as well.

posted on Dec, 11 2004 @ 12:18 AM
Regarding the justifications to go to war: Did the Clinton/Bush administration stand by, and even at times, were proponents of Saddams bloody dictatorship? Now his past is used as a justification to oust him?


posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 11:06 AM

Originally posted by syntaxer
Dear Nygdan and Druden,

Perhaps the Hinzman people should request Kofi Annon/UN to testify regarding their position on this illegal war?

I'd like to see that, have a trial and everything and settle the issue. I haven't heard annon's reasoning for why the war was illegal yet, so that in itself would be worth it. Not sure what kind of investigatory body would be able to actually, well, investigate. As far as I know no one would have the authority to investigate both the US and the UN.

Even the majority of states within the United Nations agree the Iraq war is illegal and unjust.


It would be a very wise and strategic move for the Hinzman team to get the UN involved based on their comments towards the Iraq war.


Just throwing some mud from the sidelines with this thing you guys got going.

Yaaaah! Mud. Doesn't it look pretty when its getting flung?!

posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 11:14 AM
Deserters should be shot on site. Kofi is a war criminal and should be put on trial. End of story........

posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 12:52 PM

Originally posted by DrHoracid
Deserters should be shot on site.

Thats one method of dealing with them. It only shows the enlighented attitudes of the people running the US military day to day.

Kofi is a war criminal and should be put on trial. End of story........

You seemed to have skipped over the part of the story where you explain how kofi annon is a war criminal.

posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 01:08 PM
We have a great Armed services here in the states and
I appreciate the young men and women who are fighting
but as this is America this man should have the right to at least
be heard on his disageements , We Americans are so jacked up
right now that we won't listen to someone saying I can't do this anymore
right or wrong this guy has been there and has simply said I can't go on
killing and having to wonder for the rest of my life whether or not
these were innocent people. Having served I don't like this either
but the main thing you pledge to defend in your oath to the United States
is Freedom, whether you agree or not but Freedom, and having served I feel
this man has the right to be heard if they hear him out and don't care
then fine send him back over to Iraq but at least hear the man out.

After all he has already been to Irq and been shot at
I for one think that he has earned the right to be heard

And on the paratrooper thing:
We had guys leave AIT and go straight to Jump School after four weeks of
infantry training so that idea is bogus and Jump School is now only 3 weeks
so 10 weeks of basic + 4 weeks AIT + 3 weeks Jump School looks like he could have been in for less than half a year to me.
(I used infantry as an example because it is one of the shorter AIT's)


[edit on 12/14/2004 by geocom]

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