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What's the Deal with the Sentient Plasma Spheres?

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posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear
Surely that isn't what's being asserted at all. Somewhat backwards. Certainly I'm not saying that plasma came from or was created by the brain lability/siezure. I'm asserting affect the other way around, no matter where the plasma came from. It's definitely a way to screw with somemone's mind…..
tetra




posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 02:59 PM
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This been on your mind?




"Cortical phosphenes perceived as luminous shapes within the visual field were reported by engineers and maintenance personnel working in the hangars where PSVs were stationed for service activities. It was concluded that these effects happened when the cloaking module was enabled, producing a direct TM stimulus of the visual cortex of the subjects involved.

Artificially Induced Magnetophosphenes - The phosphene interpretation of plasma orbs



I think that it's interesting that #SNIPPED's# story, paxnatus' hexagon/triangle story and FL's "PSV deltoids" story all leverage the ideas found in Project Condign.




posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: Bybyots
a reply to: tetra50

This been on your mind?




"Cortical phosphenes perceived as luminous shapes within the visual field were reported by engineers and maintenance personnel working in the hangars where PSVs were stationed for service activities. It was concluded that these effects happened when the cloaking module was enabled, producing a direct TM stimulus of the visual cortex of the subjects involved.

Artificially Induced Magnetophosphenes - The phosphene interpretation of plasma orbs



I think that it's interesting that #SNIPPED's# story, paxnatus' hexagon/triangle story and FL's "PSV deltoids" story all leverage the ideas found in Project Condign.







I agree, wholeheartedly, and thank you for your reply. However, I don't agree with the conclusions of the author of the Condign Report that these are "natural phenomena," or not produced by extra terrestrials, necessarily. I see a purposeful pattern possible, with this information being another layer that hides another nugget, perhaps: like, psv, for instance.
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posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 03:29 PM
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I see a purposeful pattern possible, with this information being another layer that hides another nugget, perhaps: like, psv, for instance.


So I've gathered.

I think we are back to the CS thread: we've got one natural and one that someone is trying to mimic. Someone from here, not "there".



I don't agree with the conclusions of the author of the Condign Report


I don't entirely either. Nevertheless, Project Condign predates all three stories, and all three stories leverage the ideas found in the Condign Report.

Also, in terms of your concerns about this type of thing being manufactured? You are in good company, the Condign Report suggested to those that requested it that they should be wary of Russia, who seems to be trying to do just that: manufacture some "weapon" out of this stuff.


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posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 03:51 PM
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a reply to: Bybyots
Yes, but I'm quite skeptical of anything purporting a nationalistic type enemy creation theme to it: such as the Russia thing. Point in fact, I'm sure if our military is experimenting with and using these type technologies, everyone's military that can afford it is doing the same. That's a pretty clear cut given in my book. These guys think they're all playing Battleship or something. The consequences don't really filter through till later.

FL might have us believe there is more to it than military….just my sense about that.

But my thinking Russia is the enemy in terms of building such tech and using it? It's just as likely we are and have.

On another note as per the information I posted on pg. 7, just before here: I think it also possible since you are using a current to create the plasma (let's say, as in the last piece I referenced with the experiments done by University of Missouri creating plasma rings that they can manipulate without huge magnets, possibly), and the properties of the electromagnetic field are the canvas it's created on, giving an analogy, sentience is clearly possible, though it is likely artificiallly produced in the plasma. Just an idea I am tinkering with, when not playing dumb….

I know that sounds outrageous, but what's anybody's best guess about how this plasma could be sentient? Or does everyone just think it's controlled to seem that it is somehow with huge magnets no one is seeing onsite that' s reporting contact? Are the magnets used to control the behavior of the plasma cloaked by a cloaking device, or what? Sarcasm, just in case I'm taken seriously.

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posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 03:53 PM
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But my thinking Russia is the enemy in terms of building such tech and using it? It's just as likely we are and have.


Agreed.



...and the properties of the electromagnetic field are the canvas it's created on, giving an analogy, sentience is clearly possible, though it is likely artificiallly produced in the plasma.


This I don't agree with, but I think that it's interesting that you used the canvas analogy; art imitating life, life imitating art.

I'll split the difference with you: the field in the human brain and the field from the plasma couple to form a temporary living system that is transient and no longer exists once information has been exchanged. Due to something like that represented by the Kindling Model, the human half then becomes more susceptible to these "couplings".

P.S. "Coupling" is how the Condign Report refers to this phenomenon that exists between human and "Buoyant Plasma Formation".


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posted on Oct, 15 2014 @ 07:22 PM
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yes if you pump strong EM or
transcranial currents in a brain you give
that person a 'drug trip'. So what?



It's not really just about giving someone a drug trip, KPB.
It's about intentionally affecting the neurobiology, and the perception, attitude and behavior of people. This man killed twelve people, after insisting this was happening to him.

As reported last week by Communities, Alexis contacted Newport, RI police while travelling on business as a naval contractor, 42 days before the Navy Yard shooting. According to the police report, Alexis complained that he was being followed from hotel to hotel by several people who were keeping him awake and talking to him through the walls, floor, and ceiling using “some sort of microwave machine”.

A 1985 CNN Special Assignment with military affairs specialist Chuck DeCaro investigates radio frequency weapons and electromagnetic mind control, providing insight into behavior technologies still unknown to most Americans nearly 30 years after the program aired.

The CNN special includes a faded 1964 film clip from Córdoba, Spain featuring renowned Yale mind control researcher Dr. José Delgado’s famous experiment on a bull with a receiver implanted in its brain. Delgado demonstrates that he is able to halt the bull’s aggressive charge by remote control.

“Delgado, the scientist, pressed a button on a small radio transmitter in his hand, and the bull braked to a halt. Then he pressed another button on the transmitter and the bull obediently turned to the right and trotted away” wrote the New York Times in 1965.

Delgado, who died in 2011, later demonstrated similar results on monkeys before moving on to experimenting on humans.

During a 2001 Cabinet Magazine interview in with Delgado in Madrid, his wife said, “Do you remember how we thought of (Spanish Prime Minister Francisco) Franco? Imagine being able to turn off the Generalissimo”. Delgado replied “But who could have put the electrodes into the dictator? With electromagnetic radiation we could have controlled the dictator from a distance. We did some experiments at Yale where we influenced the brain from up to 30 meters away.”

The potential applications of electromagnetic energy to control the minds of political leaders and soldiers on the battlefield did not go unnoticed by the Pentagon and Moscow. Could such technology also be developed to program assassins, terrorists, and mass shooters like Aaron Alexis?

In 1975 Don R. Justesen of the Laboratories of Experimental Neuropsychology, Veterans Administration Hospital, Kansas City published “Microwaves and Behavior” in American Psychologist, disclosing that agents with the Defense Research Projects Agency (DARPA) “contacted Joseph C. Sharp, former director of research in experimental psychology at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, and an electronic engineer, Mark Grove, who began to put together at Walter Reed what is now one of the best equipped laboratories in the United States for studying bio psychological effects of microwave radiations.”

“Sharp and Grove found that appropriate modulation of microwave energy can result in direct ‘wireless’ and ‘receiver less’ communication of speech…By radiating themselves with these ‘voice modulated’ microwaves, Sharp and Grove were readily able to hear, identify, and distinguish among the 9 words. The sounds heard were not unlike those emitted by persons with artificial larynxes…The capability of communicating directly with a human being by ‘receiver less radio’ has obvious potentialities both within and without the clinic.” – Don R. Justice, Department of Veterans Affairs

A webpage about “Voice to Skull” (V2K) weapons featuring a March 2000 diagram called “REMEMBER: THIS WAS DO-ABLE IN 1974!” was removed from a U.S. Army website according to a 2008 Wired report.

Research was also conducted in the early 1980s by Eldon Byrd at the Marine Corps Nonlethal Electromagnetic Weapons project, who suspects that the program “went black”, according to U.S. News and World Report.

“The Mind Has No Firewall”, a 1998 white paper by Lieutenant Colonel Timothy L. Thomas (USA Ret.) published in the U.S. Army War College Quarterly Parameters opens with a chilling quote attributed to Russian army Major I. Cherished: “It is completely clear that the state which is first to create such weapons will achieve incomparable superiority.”

In 1997 Major Chernishev wrote in the military journal Orienteer that “’psy’ weapons are under development all over the globe” the white paper reports. “’Psycho-terrorism’ could be the next buzzword,” writes LTC Thomas. “We are on the threshold of an era in which these data processors of the human body may be manipulated or debilitated”.

Story continuted: Fifteen years later, where is the state of the art in the global psychotronic arms race?

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posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 07:42 AM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Hello Kev

Maybe the word soul dates from some 4000 years ago. But let us accept that also the Sumerians had an idea of the soul.
So we can say that the word soul or spirit exists as long as civilization exists. Civilization as we know it.

I think those first civilizations had the best concept about the word soul. Because they were closest in time to the lost civilizations which had a much better view on the word soul than we do now.

I believe that long before Sumerians something unbelievable happened with earth whereby we simply don't know what people before the Sumerians thought. The gap between megacatastrophes and the first known civilizations is simply too big.

32.000 years ago the most beautiful paintings (according to many) appeared suddenly (Chauvet). There was no written language. We don't know how people communicated. We simply don't know anything about those people. The only thing we know is they did not painted or sculptured men, no aggression, no sexual handlings (the lascaux man must be a hoax - everyone can see that). Maybe some of those people were far more advanced than we will ever accept ... It's a long story and it's a belief so I won't bother you with it :-)

I hope you still have some hope for human future.
Wish you all the best
Zandra



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 02:58 PM
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originally posted by: tetra50
a reply to: Bybyots
Yes, but I'm quite skeptical of anything purporting a nationalistic type enemy creation theme to it: such as the Russia thing. Point in fact, I'm sure if our military is experimenting with and using these type technologies, everyone's military that can afford it is doing the same. That's a pretty clear cut given in my book. These guys think they're all playing Battleship or something. The consequences don't really filter through till later.

FL might have us believe there is more to it than military….just my sense about that.

But my thinking Russia is the enemy in terms of building such tech and using it? It's just as likely we are and have.

On another note as per the information I posted on pg. 7, just before here: I think it also possible since you are using a current to create the plasma (let's say, as in the last piece I referenced with the experiments done by University of Missouri creating plasma rings that they can manipulate without huge magnets, possibly), and the properties of the electromagnetic field are the canvas it's created on, giving an analogy, sentience is clearly possible, though it is likely artificiallly produced in the plasma. Just an idea I am tinkering with, when not playing dumb….

I know that sounds outrageous, but what's anybody's best guess about how this plasma could be sentient? Or does everyone just think it's controlled to seem that it is somehow with huge magnets no one is seeing onsite that' s reporting contact? Are the magnets used to control the behavior of the plasma cloaked by a cloaking device, or what? Sarcasm, just in case I'm taken seriously.


My current speculation...is that the magnetically contained plasma currents surrounding these alien starships that we occasionally see in our skies, create there own electrostatic current, by the swirling plasma currents; much like our Sun.

I'm guesing that the only way to create and confine such a magnificent sight [various colored power phased plasmas surrounding an alien starship] would be a micro-mini black hole installed onboard the starship itself. This micro-mini BH would also be the method of propulsion for the starship, whereby it would suck-up starlight photons or photons created from a magnetically [two magnetic shields surrounding the starship] confined fusion process --- where one magnetic field compresses deuterium atoms against the other with extreme pressure till the fusion reaction occurs --- spits out the photons from a thruster with extreme thrust; increasing speed exponentially squared --- easily up to the speed of light barrier and beyond into the superluminal realm.

These two magnetic shields --- surrounding the starship --- would be computer controlled, whereby it could funnel some electrically charged plasma to an intended target with devastating results; thusly being a weapon of mass destruction.



posted on Oct, 16 2014 @ 04:44 PM
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Hey Erno86:
Thanks so much for that knowledgeable reply. I've been doing some study on propulsion systems, so this information/theory comes at just the right time as well. I have nothing to counter that possibility, either, and am fascinated with the idea of them being able to create a mini black hole like this, which it seems to me to be the most necessary part of the setup you describe for it to work, as this removes/contains the plasma that would be swirling around the atmosphere, and space in general, as you've described.

Thanks again.
tetra50



posted on Oct, 21 2014 @ 04:17 PM
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You're welcome, tetra50

I further speculate [based on my own eyewitness nighttime observation of a possible alternate two color power phase of a foofighter in 1976, approx. 40 miles west of Washington D.C.] --- That the alien starship has at least two aerial power color phases while operating in our atmosphere --- One...the high power bluish-white plasma phase [with approx. speeds above 10,000 mph, rectangle shaped, the size of very large jet airliner --- The other low power phase.. is a reddish-orange [approx. 700 feet in diameter, with a low speed of approx. 30 mph] ball of fusion plasma; used for take-offs/landings and for possible offensive/defensive OP's.

The photon receptor --- installed on the bottom hull of the starship --- funnels the starlight photons [while the starship is in outer space], the self-generated plasma photons [in atmosphere's that lack starlight], towards the micro-mini black hole propulsion unit. The bottom hull of the starship houses the contained BH [less than the size of an atom, weighing less than 600,000 tons] along with a thruster installed somewhere on the outer bottom hull rim of the saucer; including top hull/bottom hull vertical thrusters.

The upper hull of the saucer has a rotational capability, that encapsulates the outer rim of the bottom hull. The outlet thruster side ports are on on the upper hull for speed vector origins and vertical top/bottom thrusters for elevation vectors.

The photon receptor inlet port is closed --- the upper hall rotates the thruster outlet port towards the opposite direction it wants to go --- the photon receptor inlet port is re-opened...for 90, 45, etc, etc degree turns; including instant stops and starts.



posted on Oct, 21 2014 @ 05:03 PM
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Thank you so much for your descriptions.
They are incredible, IMHO.
I have some memories of actually being inside one, and the aisle through the main bridge was made of some thick, clear plastic sheeting, but underneath it seemed to be constantly shifting and changing color, a constantly fluxing material underneath. Your feet almost didn't feel what they were walking on….



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: tetra50
a reply to: Erno86
Thank you so much for your descriptions.
They are incredible, IMHO.
I have some memories of actually being inside one, and the aisle through the main bridge was made of some thick, clear plastic sheeting, but underneath it seemed to be constantly shifting and changing color, a constantly fluxing material underneath. Your feet almost didn't feel what they were walking on….


Interesting...though I've never had the fortunate opportunity to be onboard an actual ET alien starship, even though I would probably relish the occasion.

I've tried my hand at telepathy, with these interstellar travelers who occasionally visit our planet --- yet only thoughts [not spoken words] --- seem too come to mind.

I consider myself a Ufologist/Exobiologist, with my previous attempts too contact these otherworlders at Calvert Cliffs, Maryland since 1972. Yet I believe that I have accumulated actual photographic evidence [actual ET humanoid photo and geoglyph self-portrait carvings of said creature] during my excursions at this Miocene Age fossil-ridden place.



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 02:00 PM
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Erno, I'd be very interested in how you got these photos, and would surely like to see them, if there'd be any way, though I wouldn't trust sharing them over the internet, necessarily, so I will likely not get to see them.

What, exactly, is an exobiologist? Do you specialize in identifying fossils?
i wish you would join us over in the Black Triangle/spacedog thread. GUT's over there talking about people "standing up" and sharing their experiences to be vetted, as to scientific "proof" and you seem to have some.

For my part, I am kind of unwilling to share too much of my own experience in this atmosphere. I just sense it isn't the right place. I also still have memories I can't quite explain, as to why I was onboard, as to where exactly and when this happened, etc. But yet, I still have these very persistent recollections. They also involve a high level military officer...who may well have been, or be, my "handler." Or maybe I've gone completely loonytunes. LOL
Regards, and be well, my friend.
tetra

eta: If you don't feel like posting or participating in the black triangle thread, I wonder if you would mind if I quoted any of your observations you've written about here, over there? I won't if you wish me not to.
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posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: tetra50
a reply to: Erno86

Erno, I'd be very interested in how you got these photos, and would surely like to see them, if there'd be any way, though I wouldn't trust sharing them over the internet, necessarily, so I will likely not get to see them.

What, exactly, is an exobiologist? Do you specialize in identifying fossils?
i wish you would join us over in the Black Triangle/spacedog thread. GUT's over there talking about people "standing up" and sharing their experiences to be vetted, as to scientific "proof" and you seem to have some.

For my part, I am kind of unwilling to share too much of my own experience in this atmosphere. I just sense it isn't the right place. I also still have memories I can't quite explain, as to why I was onboard, as to where exactly and when this happened, etc. But yet, I still have these very persistent recollections. They also involve a high level military officer...who may well have been, or be, my "handler." Or maybe I've gone completely loonytunes. LOL
Regards, and be well, my friend.
tetra

eta: If you don't feel like posting or participating in the black triangle thread, I wonder if you would mind if I quoted any of your observations you've written about here, over there? I won't if you wish me not to.


I took the photos in the summer of 1972 --- though I can't prove a thing --- you can check out the two photos [the other I did not publish yet] on YouTube, titled: Space Alien Hiding Behind Fossil Rock, and Space Alien Petroglyph...which might be a geoglyph carving self-portrait carving of the creature I took a picture of.
P.S.: J. Allen Hynek did not think much of my E.T. humanoid entity photos.
Collecting fossils is one of my hobbies, and I figure it's also one of the hobbies that these otherworlders give reason to visit our planet.
Exobiology: "The branch of biology that deals with the search for extraterrestrial life and the effects of extraterrestrial surroundings on living organisms, also called Astrobiology, Space biology.

I don't mind you quoting me....though I'll have to check out the Black Triangle/spacedog thread on a later date, and I'll be looking forward too participating.

Thanx

Erno



posted on Oct, 22 2014 @ 04:07 PM
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Yes, when you have the time, I encourage you strongly to participate, as I think you may have much to add there. There is a new member, Foreverman, who has added a great deal about EM propulsion and craft....

I will check out the utube stuff, thanks.

I wonder if you have any theories about time dilation, and different timelines?
Regards,
tetra



posted on Oct, 23 2014 @ 07:28 AM
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I have been thinking lately along the lines of our reality being a programmed Hologram, a Plasma Hologram. If it is then who is programing it ? If it was say the elusive Grey Aliens then they could theoretically enter the Hologram at any point, not just that but also as anything i.e shape shifting. When they enter the Hologram we may see some Plasma displacement while the Holographic image is being reprogrammed. This would mean that there is nothing mysterious or spiritual about the process, merely technological.

PLASMA HOLOGRAM TECHNOLOGY



In fact, just another little thought, maybe what we call Stargates are actually easy or easier access points or backdoors into the Hologram.
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posted on Oct, 23 2014 @ 08:08 PM
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Some of the labs that claim they are doing plasma research for fusion show stainless steel nuts and bolts in a plasma stream.
Stainless steel melts at about 1500 degrees Celsius and fusion requires temperatures near 100 million degrees Celsius before fusion occurs. You can't use the same mathematical self regulating concepts that worked so well in Teller–Ulam design bombs.

When I was a very young child I thought it would be neat if you could create energy like the sun. Conceptually a really big laser creating a really small sun sounds pretty easy until you realize its the suns tremendous gravitational confinement that keeps it burning.

A loop back current doth not a sentient sphere make!



posted on Oct, 23 2014 @ 08:09 PM
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Hey Yogi, I didn't watch your utuby, but I know exactly what you're talking about, and have somewhat come to the same conclusion. You need to post this on the Black Triangle thread, if you would, where Bybyots is saying by virtue of the Condign Report, that for one thing, the plasma is def. not sentient. My opinion is that some is and some is not. It's never that simple, reallly.
Anyway, it would seem that info belongs here, as that's the whole thread op.

Now, one thing I postulated over on that thread was about the geomagnetic grid,and the naturally occurring declinations, where the gravitational forces get weaker, or close to 0 as the line of energy aligns closer to north.
There are many sightings over L.A. Was wondering if the leyline or declination points in the geomagnetic expression or let's say grid, between us and the ionosphere over L.A. had anything to do with the multitude of black triangle sightings, by virture of their use of perhaps EM thrust propulsion tech…..

The thing is it may be important, these declinations, but for a different reason. As it turns out, the leylines coalesce in such a way over L.A. that there may be less of a grid in place. This geomagnetic grid is all important to your theory here, bc it's used to project the holographic reality through the plasma all around us. The thing is L.A. may be some kind of "portal," if you will, exactly bc of the declinations, bc the simulation would be weaker, have less power there since the geomagnetic and quantum electrodynamic forces would be at their weakest points. Therefore, we would be able to be reached by anything living outside and apart from this simulation there.



posted on Oct, 24 2014 @ 12:04 AM
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Hey Yogi, I didn't watch your utuby, but I know exactly what you're talking about, and have somewhat come to the same conclusion. You need to post this on the Black Triangle thread


Will do tetra50.

Some fine thinking there tetra, leylines could be a definite link to entry points. Place's like Stonehenge are famous for strange events that some people attribute to leylines.

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