Teachers Ordered To Call Students “Purple Penguins,” [Online HOAX]

a reply to: warpig69

That is ridiculous where do these people come from....

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
HUH? I don't get it, I guess I will just sit back and watch the spin on this one.

It doesn't seem to be a hoax, oh well, it is an election season and all.

Perhaps a little basic math and logic?

Title of the Thread: "Teachers ORDERED to call kids purple penguins"

PLUS

Facts: No such orders given, nothing even close to such orders given.

EQUALS

Hoax (aka blatant falsification, lies, deception, etc.)

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: StoutBroux

So you posted an article which has been previously linked, and then cited a small portion of a political parent's agenda comment? Snazzy.

Again,

1. The original article completely mischaracterized what has actually happened in Lincoln.

2. These suggestions were not instituted by the school district as policy.

Whether it fits in with personal political agendas or not, gender identification issues are and will be a matter of critical importance to some students. Period, end of story.

From my above post:

Riskowski said students should respect each other and not be judgmental, but the school district shouldn’t have to re-educate the 99 percent who aren’t transgender about “the entire idea of boy-girl.” He noted the materials seemed geared to very young children, with references to calling kids purple penguins and getting in line.

I never stated they were instituted as school policy. I am merely stating that the term Purple Penguin was in fact used in the conference and is not a hoax. As was the term camper, gingerbread etc. Why are we trying to call our children a metaphor???? It's ridiculous. I was raised NOT to call people names, good or bad. Many people are NOT happy to be called 'camper' or 'happy camper'. In fact it's insulting. I personally don't want to be called anything but my name. I imagine many children would feel the same way. They're making it way too difficult.

a reply to: StoutBroux

Were teachers ORDERED to use the term "purple penguin" or not?

The answer to that question explains why this topic was moved to the Hoax bin.

As to your musing about why the phrases were used in the handout ... I can't say. I think they were intended to be fun, whimsical "group names" that didn't automatically engender any one.

I find the whole topic here ludicrous as the cure seems far worse than the sickness to me; however:

1. There are individuals in the world who do not identify according to the binary of masculine and feminine.

2. Why should those individuals, as children, be forced to comply with a State-imposed identity as either this or that?

a reply to: Gryphon66

Why should 99% of everyone else be stripped of their identity to make those children who don't want to be boys or girls feel "included"?

That's equally ridiculous.

But this is not a HOAX. The teachers were given a training session on this and handouts. These suggestions were part of one called 12 Easy Steps on the Way to Gender Inclusiveness. Generally when you are trained on something, your employer expects you to put it into practice in some manner.

I just love the double-speak. Let's include gender by excluding it.

This needs to be shown at the next School Board meeting with the PTA present....


Sheb Wooley - Purple People Eater (1958)
www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Gryphon66

Why should 99% of everyone else be stripped of their identity to make those children who don't want to be boys or girls feel "included"?

That's equally ridiculous.

But this is not a HOAX. The teachers were given a training session on this and handouts. These suggestions were part of one called 12 Easy Steps on the Way to Gender Inclusiveness. Generally when you are trained on something, your employer expects you to put it into practice in some manner.

I just love the double-speak. Let's include gender by excluding it.

How exactly is "99% of everyone else" being stripped of anything? Are you saying that if a teacher doesn't refer to the group of students as "boys and girls" they're going to forget that they are???

It's not a matter of making anyone feel included, it's a matter of not excluding anyone for no good reason.

Talk about double-speak.

As to the Hoax nature of the OP ...

1. The title is entirely inaccurate and deceptive; no teacher was ORDERED to do anything. (For the humpteenth time.)
2. The article misrepresents entirely what the facts of the matter were about the training in Lincoln, NE.
3. This is the typical much ado about nothing to generate right-wing ire.
4. The Mods have moved it and that pretty much settles it.

a reply to: xuenchen

Yeah, and just to make sure that the transition to the "good ol' days" where boys was boys and girls were domestic servants ... we could reinstitute true patriotism in the classroom as well!!!



Sieg Heil, Old Glory!

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LukeDAP

I used to call my daughter "pumpkin" when she was little. I don't think it confused her or made her think she was not human.

This is really sooooo not a big deal.

Yes, it is. They aren't purple penguins - they are children and should be addressed as such in school.

a reply to: Gryphon66



That started in the 1890s and stopped in maybe 1942?

The 1890s.

The dawn of the modern Progressive era.

I bet even Congress did that when they signed the Federal reserve Act and created the new 1040 form.

It's official name is the Roman Salute I think.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Yes, it is exclusionary. If not everyone has gender, then no one should have gender.

If not everyone believes in God, then no one should admit to believing in God.

If not everyone is A, the no one should be A.

We all have to be equal at any cost.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: xuenchen

Yeah, and just to make sure that the transition to the "good ol' days" where boys was boys and girls were domestic servants ... we could reinstitute true patriotism in the classroom as well!!!

Sieg Heil, Old Glory!

They did this in Germany and still do this in Germany. If you want to take your child out of the system, they take your children away from you.

The system is coming to America.

So happy to wake up and find out this wasn't a real thing. This truly had me steaming last night and ready to call my daughters school with a blanket statement about how quick I would show up if they ever called her anything but a young lady.

a reply to: xuenchen

The Roman salute was adopted by fascists like Hitler and Mussolini.

In the picture, that is the Bellamy salute, named for a Christian preacher, and was done while pledging allegiance the the flag.

a reply to: ketsuko

The nazi salute is illegal in Germany.

a reply to: xuenchen

Nope it's usually called "the Bellamy Salute."

You know, the guy who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance? The Christian Socialist who wrote the Pledge?

Yeah, that guy. He didn't exactly invent it though ...

The inventor of the saluting gesture was James B. Upham, junior partner and editor of The Youth's Companion. Bellamy recalled Upham, upon reading the pledge, came into the posture of the salute, snapped his heels together, and said "Now up there is the flag; I come to salute; as I say 'I pledge allegiance to my flag,' I stretch out my right hand and keep it raised while I say the stirring words that follow."[1]

The Bellamy salute was first demonstrated on October 12, 1892 according to Bellamy's published instructions for the "National School Celebration of Columbus Day":

At a signal from the Principal the pupils, in ordered ranks, hands to the side, face the Flag. Another signal is given; every pupil gives the flag the military salute -- right hand lifted, palm downward, to a line with the forehead and close to it. Standing thus, all repeat together, slowly, “I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands; one Nation indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.” At the words, “to my Flag,” the right hand is extended gracefully, palm upward, toward the Flag, and remains in this gesture till the end of the affirmation; whereupon all hands immediately drop to the side.
— From The Youth’s Companion, 65 (1892): 446–447.

A very similar salute was adopted first by the Italian Fascists (ala Roman Salute) and then by the German Nazis in the 20's and 30's.

When WWII started, Congress changed to the over-the-heart salute to avoid ... "any confusion with the Nazis and Fascists."

Yeah, right. Or perhaps "any confusion of our indoctrination techniques as compared with those of our declared enemies."

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: xuenchen

Yeah, and just to make sure that the transition to the "good ol' days" where boys was boys and girls were domestic servants ... we could reinstitute true patriotism in the classroom as well!!!

Sieg Heil, Old Glory!

They did this in Germany and still do this in Germany. If you want to take your child out of the system, they take your children away from you.

The system is coming to America.

Wait, what? Where is this happening?

You are more than able to take you child out of the system. In fact, homeschooling is becoming quite the popular alternative.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Gryphon66

Yes, it is exclusionary. If not everyone has gender, then no one should have gender.

If not everyone believes in God, then no one should admit to believing in God.

If not everyone is A, the no one should be A.

We all have to be equal at any cost.

According to whom? That's just a string of ludicrous absolutes.

I beg you, quote any source in the Lincoln educational system that says anything of the sort.

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: xuenchen

The Roman salute was adopted by fascists like Hitler and Mussolini.

In the picture, that is the Bellamy salute, named for a Christian preacher, and was done while pledging allegiance the the flag.

a reply to: ketsuko

The nazi salute is illegal in Germany.

I wasn't referring to it but the school system that everyone has to send their children to so that the state makes sure your children are indoctrinated to be good little soldiers of society. THAT was never repealed or removed. In Germany, if you try to educate your child outside that system, your children are removed.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Gryphon66

Yes, it is exclusionary. If not everyone has gender, then no one should have gender.

If not everyone believes in God, then no one should admit to believing in God.

If not everyone is A, the no one should be A.

We all have to be equal at any cost.

According to whom? That's just a string of ludicrous absolutes.

I beg you, quote any source in the Lincoln educational system that says anything of the sort.

No, it's the outcome of PC thought that we are headed down.

If someone objects to the way something is done, then we must stop doing that in order not to offend. We cannot have brown bag lunches, they are racist. We cannot refer to peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. That is exclusionary as not everyone eats those. We can no longer refer to God anywhere outside our homes or churches because that offends some. We cannot wear or hang American flags because that offends others and might be considered inflammatory. We cannot call our children boys or girls because it might upset the one in a whatever ridiculously small number it is who isn't sure which he or she prefers to think he or she is. We cannot just read stories anymore, but we must carefully choose books that are written by all the correct ethnicities and represent all the correct ethnicities even if they aren't exactly the best examples of he written word. We must have a day, week, month to make sure everyone's everything is celebrated unless you are part of the so-called dominate oppressor demographic.

And sooner or later no one will be special because everyone will be and no one will be an American because we will have made that a bad thing to be.

a reply to: ketsuko

There are many nations that have compulsory education in some form or another. Not just the US and Germany.

And the entire indoctrination aspect, that's just wrong. I have kids in the public school system and I can tell you that that is simply not the case.

That misnomer is of political origin and the smallest things are used in an attempt to prove such nonsense.