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Top U.S. general says Ebola outbreak coming through Central America is real threat

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posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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A top U.S. general admitted that a potential Ebola outbreak in Central America is a real threat to the United States and a scenario which could result in a mass migration across the U.S./Mexico border, as thousands would attempt to flee the deadly virus.

“The immediate thing that really keeps me up awake at night, I tell you, it’s the Ebola issue,” said Marine Corps Gen. John F. Kelly, the commander of U.S. Southern Command, to an audience at the National Defense University on Tuesday. “There’s no way you can keep Ebola in West Africa.”


It seems with the new flight restrictions preventing sick people from flying into the US... he feels some of these guys might attempt sneaking in through Latin American countries... No not by crossing the Rio Grande but by flying into say...Mexico City then taking a direct flight to LA of Dallas, Denver. Airports that are not on high alert... yet spreading said infection throughout South and Central America...


“If Ebola breaks into Haiti, and Central America, I think it is literally ‘Katie bar the door’ in terms of the mass migration of Central Americans into the United States,” Kelly said, of the thousands he foresees fleeing countries like Honduras, El Salvaldor and Guatemala if an Ebola outbreak there were to occur. “These populations will move to either run away from Ebola or, in the fear of having been infected, to get to the United States, where it would be taken care of.”

The general added, “If there is an outbreak in the Caribbean, particularly in Central America, it would make the 68,000 unaccompanied children, I think, look like a small problem.”


the General went on to say that 'By the end of the year, there's supposed to be 1.4 million people infected with Ebola and 62 percent of them dying, according to the CDC. With numbers like that he fears there is no way to contain Ebola in Africa. Health, medical and sanitation facilities throughout much of Latin America are every bit as primal as there in Africa so if and when it crosses the Atlantic, we would be looking at the same kind of outbreak were seeing in Africa now.


The Weekly Standard noted Wednesday that Gen. Kelly warned this year about the dangers associated with a loose American border to the south.

Budgets cuts, he said in a spring congressional hearing, are 'severely degrading' his Pentagon task force's ability to stem the flow of illegal immigration.

Nearly 75 per cent of traffickers, he said, are left unchallenged.

'I simply sit and watch it go by,' Kelly told lawmakers.


This last comment was meant to show how easy it would be for drug and human traffickers to bring Ebola into the US. .
Fox Latino
Daily Mail UK
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posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 10:26 AM
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well with possible cases in chihuahua city I would assume thats true........

As soon as it gets to people that are already coming across our borders for the healthcare and trying to find work, you can bet things are going to get a lil dicey.

People talk about how it isnt bad in America , what they need to be thnking about is if it gets out of hand for our neighbors to the south.......

Because if it does were going to have a flood of infected coming up trying to get treated



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Well, we've all seen the pictures of Ebola victims laying dead in the roads of towns there in Africa...
If I lived there and knew there was no place I could go for treatment... I'd be looking for somewhere else to go, anywhere else to go.


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posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 10:42 AM
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So we should be scared because a U.S general is scared of a worst case ebola scenario?



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: clenz
So we should be scared because a U.S general is scared of a worst case ebola scenario?
As I posted in another thread. It really belongs here in Hardcorp's thread.

Who is watching the back door? No one, that's who.

FROM LINK...



DHS figures indicate that 112 individuals were caught illegally crossing into the United States from Guinea, 231 from Liberia, and another 145 from Sierra Leone, the three Ebola “hot spots”. This represents a 95% increase over 2013, before the Ebola crisis heated up.


And DHS pulled 30% of its agents off the border in August, to deal with the massive influx of illegal minors from Central America, leaving even fewer agents to defend against invasion, as the Ebola catastrophe gets worse in Africa, and people get more desperate to get to America for treatment.

Border agents have some stunning news for Americans concerned about the risk of Ebola.

Agents are reporting that they have caught hundreds of illegal aliens crossing our Southern border from African Ebola “hot zones” over the past several months, the majority of them from Liberia, where Dallas Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan is from.

And as a Federal GAO report told us last year, for every illegal caught at the border, an estimated 5 more slip through. So potentially thousands of West African illegals may have entered the United States illegally in just the past 6 months.

Chris Cabrera is a spokesperson for the National Border Patrol Council, a union representing United States Border Patrol Agents. In an interview for KGBT television in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas, Cabrera told the reporter just how high the threat really is. toprightnews.com...

It's time to stop thinking your/our government cares one iota about our health....

Des



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: clenz
So we should be scared because a U.S general is scared of a worst case ebola scenario?


The saying, "Plan for the worst case and hope for the best case." comes to mind here.

But there is also a popular saying in the military. "No plan survives first contact."



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: TDawgRex

originally posted by: clenz
So we should be scared because a U.S general is scared of a worst case ebola scenario?


The saying, "Plan for the worst case and hope for the best case." comes to mind here.

But there is also a popular saying in the military. "No plan survives first contact."


I've read that quote a lot here on ATS, but it seems most posters leave out the "hope for the best" part and just keep finding things that are scary for them to read.



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 11:00 AM
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I wouldn't be so much concerned with the opinion of a non-medic on Ebola.
Perhaps he should shift his worry for the number of American troops sent to the killing fields to appease Israel - something more within his field.



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 11:03 AM
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a reply to: clenz

Marine Corps Generals do not normally issue statements like this lightly.
they have teams of analysts field agents and statical data ... If he's worried we all should be.



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 11:06 AM
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Yea, it does seem that many do like their doom-porn. Often times it seems that they don't even realize it. Being a realist can make one seem like a doomer though as well.

I, myself, think that we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Ebola though. Not that I'm scared of contracting it, but rather I am afraid of how the various Government agencies and hospitals deal with it.

Almost everything screams to me that they are doing everything they can to prevent a panic, but yet are doing very little actually. More education needs to be put out. Real education, not just this...

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posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: Destinyone

Remember the riot they had in California... the town blocking the highway to prevent busloads of illegals coming to their town...

well those busses were loaded with sick kids... Kids who've never had the normal immunizations, so their bringing in everything from chicken pox to TB.

I hate to admit it but I wouldn't want hundreds of sick kids in my town either...esp when you know our government is going to do as little as possible when it comes to their health care.



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: HardCorps
a reply to: clenz

Marine Corps Generals do not normally issue statements like this lightly.
they have teams of analysts field agents and statical data ... If he's worried we all should be.



Ok, but most of what he is saying has a lot of "if" and "i think", i don't see any new info he brings to the table with his words, to me all i am reading is "this ebola stuff is crazy, if it enters the worst case scenario we will sure have a hard time".... which you can pretty much say about any issue in our world currently.



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: Destinyone

Des,

I agree with you. Our Gov't here in the USA doesn't care one bit about our health. Except in how much money it can make for their contributors who sell us drugs.

I live in Phoenix, and the county hospital had two patients in quarantined observation last weekend for Ebola screening. They came bask negative, thankfully, but we were never told until after the fact. Now What if one of them goes back to the hospital today with worse symptoms like Mr. Duncan did????

IMO-it is only a matter of time before Ebola runs rampant through the USA, UNLESS we take steps to stop it now!!!! It starts with personal responsibility, spreading the truth to our family, friends, and coworkers, demanding our public officials take steps and precautions now, nationwide. Sadly, i fear it is not enough.



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: alexball
I wouldn't be so much concerned with the opinion of a non-medic on Ebola.
Perhaps he should shift his worry for the number of American troops sent to the killing fields to appease Israel - something more within his field.


Then maybe you should investigate what the medical professionals in the US are saying about ebola ....

That will make you concerned.......

Again youre in Malta, as ive said in other threads, no ones concerned until it hits their town, by then its a little late to wish someone had paid enough attention.....

When it hits where you are in Malta then come back and tell me you have no concerns

edit to add: This thread isnt about Israel, leave that crap somewhere else
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posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: TDawgRex
a reply to: clenz

Yea, it does seem that many do like their doom-porn. Often times it seems that they don't even realize it. Being a realist can make one seem like a doomer though as well.

I, myself, think that we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Ebola though. Not that I'm scared of contracting it, but rather I am afraid of how the various Government agencies and hospitals deal with it.

Almost everything screams to me that they are doing everything they can to prevent a panic, but yet are doing very little actually. More education needs to be put out. Real education, not just this...


Yes, agreed, we need more actual education about ebola. Thing is though, a lot of the people who know what they are talking about in regards to ebola are being ignored, and the only thing people are focusing on are the crazier and scarier aspects of the disease. Personally I think it will get controlled enough to not have an eponential transmission rate in africa, and I think we wont see much more of it aside from a case here, or a case there in other parts of the world. What does bother me though is that when those isolated cases pop up, we have like 1 month worth of sensational news and conspiracy tagged along with it, it's all quite tiresome.



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: alexball
I wouldn't be so much concerned with the opinion of a non-medic on Ebola.
Perhaps he should shift his worry for the number of American troops sent to the killing fields to appease Israel - something more within his field.


Then maybe you should investigate what the medical professionals in the US are saying about ebola ....

That will make you concerned.......

Again youre in Malta, as ive said in other threads, no ones concerned until it hits their town, by then its a little late to wish someone had paid enough attention.....

When it hits where you are in Malta then come back and tell me you have no concerns

edit to add: This thread isnt about Israel, leave that crap somewhere else


What about the medical professionals in the US that say we can beat it? do their opinions and knowledge not count? or should we just listen to the scary stuff?



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: Destinyone

Yep and just as Duncan had family that in my opinion helped him get to the US for treatment, how many ships and cargo holds are going to be bringing in friends, lovers and family before we tighten up security there?

We could see boat loads of infected immigrants in the coming weeks either as you said to flee the HOt Spots o to gain access to the available healthcare in the US?



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: clenz

Sure they count.......optimism is always good.......

But you also have to look at the facts..........

You have to prepare and have the tools necessary to deal with things like this....

i can tell you for a fact down here in Dallas /Fort Worth where this thing is happening, that the staff down here havent really been briefed on the situation......or how to handle it.

My cousin is a nurse in a hospital 30 miles west of Fort Worth and theyve done NOTHING to prepare for it there, they havent had meetings or anything.

They dont have the infrastructure to handle an influx of cases........this is straight out of their mouths.....did you know it takes 20 or more staff to handle ONE ebola patient? Whats a hospital going to do if they have 50 or more cases?

you can look on the boards here as well and find people that are medical professionals in the area and they will tell you the same thing...

i just flew into Dallas not a week ago and was talking to a few of the stewardesses on their way home, NONE of them had been approached by the airlines on how to handle a possible ebola situation......

The CDC down here is lying out their arses and the clean up crews procedures are laughable.......

Its clear the way a lot of the people dealing with this case that they arent handling it properly......

Optimism is good, but so is to er on the side of caution and look at whats going on

To say that what this General has stated is just fearmongering I think is foolish.......

Its a real possibility.......

I dont know if you saw the pictures of the holding places down here in Texas when we had that influx of illegals come in, but picture that with all those people crammed in and even ONE of them carrying Ebola......

Thats a situation........and not a far fetched one



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 11:35 AM
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a reply to: clenz

I have a relative that works for the NIH in Bethesda....be scared....be very scared.

Your writing style reminds of someone who used to join every thread on a topic to argue for the sake of arguing. I hope you are actually educating yourself, not just playing in ATS threads to get your jollies.

Ebola is a serious issue. If you think the medical field has a handle on it...start seeking out your friends and family in the medical field, like I did. It will be an eye opener for you, I guarantee...

Des



posted on Oct, 9 2014 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: clenz

Well we have watched as even the very same spokespeople for the CDC, State and federal heath authorities issue assurances to the Police and emergency services in Dallas only to one by one start coming down with infections, many supposed medical professionals did not gain their educations in level 4 bio hazards such as this evolving strain of ebola.

This is a learning curve as we go situation.

Even with the best of containment suits healthcare workers and DRs are falling like flies. Every one seems shocked when what we thought we knew about the virus does not stop the contamination.

It is going to be that trusting nature that gets killed off first in this viral global extinction.




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