a reply to: eriktheawful
From what I understand from my friends, the difference between what Steam does and Origin did was that Steam limits its search via the Steam folder
(and any associated game folder for save info). Although it's notable that the recent advent of the Steam music player actually allows a full
computer scan to look for mp3's but that requires an opt-in
. Origin was not confining itself to a single folder and/or associated folders but
was scanning all sorts of folders that were not pertinent to its products' use. That's the fundamental difference between Origin and Steam. My super
tech guru buds will not use Origin but they'll still use Steam.
What can be obtained from a fuller file scan is beyond the stuff that you already agreed to given them (name, credit card info, and address). This
is where their EULA becomes very pertinent and where one of my own personal fortes comes in.
EA collects non-personal information along with personal information when you actively provide it in the context of various online and mobile
activities including online and mobile purchases, game registration and marketing surveys, for instance. In addition, we and other third parties use
cookies and other technologies to passively collect non-personal demographic information, personalize your experience on our sites and monitor
advertisements and other activities as described below. We may also derive from the information collected other facts, such as determining the
applicable tax rate based on your IP address.
This part of the EULA is basically telling the user that what the user actively provides through registrations and surveys will be utilized. It also
says that it will passively collect
information that is purportedly 'non-personal' to "personalize" your experience on their associated sites
(how non-personal = personalized experience should raise an eyebrow). This is called
and that is what the "other third parties" are. The companies
charged with making a neat little marketing profile just for you!
By playing an EA game through a social network or other third party platform or service or by connecting to such a third party network,
any and all information that you agreed the social network or other third party platform could provide to EA through the social network/third party
platform Application Programming Interface (API) based on your settings on the third party social network or platform. Your agreement takes place when
you connect with the third party network, platform or service via our products and/or services, and/or when you connect with, “accept” or
“allow” (or similar terms) one of our applications through a social network, or other third party platform or service.
This basically means that anything you do or say can be used against you though typically, again, for the purpose of marketing automation. The
agreement for this is by simply connecting to that particular network or, if applicable, by "allowing" it. Steam's EULA actually has something
rather similar and that raised a privacy outrage a couple years back. There was no way to "opt-out" and still play your games on Steam.
EA may also collect or receive information about you from other EA users who choose to upload their email and other contacts. This information
will be stored by us and used primarily to help you and your friends connect.
This is basically "association building" and it should freak people out a little. When one makes a friend in a game, all they know really is that the
person seemed cool and they share the same enjoyment of *insert game name here*. That's how the majority of my friends on Steam came about. Where
this kind of thing poses a problem (and this applies to both Steam and Origin) is one doesn't always know what one's friends do in their spare time
and those outside interests may actually put a flag on you. For me, I have friends that utilized TOR, accessed the Darknet, and/or turned out to be
hackers (Anon/LuLzSEC). Hi NSA! Sure it helps make for connections but it also does provide known associations which can be very much used,
especially in a game, to build a network of associates for an individual whose of interest to the state.
The advertising companies who deliver ads for us may combine the information collected or obtained from EA with other information they have
independently collected from other websites and/or other online or mobile products and services relating to your web browser’s activities across
their network of websites. Many of these companies collect and use information under their own privacy policies.
This, again, is marketing automation and it's basically saying that EA works with these other guys of whom they are not going to name and are
providing those "unnamed others" information that is garnered from their network. Those same "unnamed others" all have their own privacy policies of
which may not be similar to EA's and they'll combine it with other stuff they already have on you. Joy and very typical for this day and age.
Again though, the difference was confinement. Steam is confined to Steam and Steam games (unless you opt-in on the music player). Origin was
stepping outside of its bounds. Not kidding that I know tech gurus in Silicon Valley. This is why they'll have Steam and not Origin.
Source of EULA quotes: www.lazygamer.net...
edit on 9/10/14 by WhiteAlice
because: added source