Ebola, inside information

The msmedia just announced that Dallas did a reverse phone message about the Nurses positive Ebola diagnosis and advised in a 2 block radius that people monitor themselves.

They did say that the Nurse had a dog and then went on to interview one neighbor who shares the trash dumpster with her and is very concerned now.

originally posted by: cloaked4u
a reply to: Biotech2024







If direct sunlight damages it,deactivates it then a person with a clear I.V in the sun's rays, then tube fed back into your body would be cure for ebola. Then your body could develope antibodies against ebola. THE CURE, if true.

Ebola ...Expose to sun's rays

originally posted by: cloaked4u
a reply to: Biotech2024



If direct sunlight damages it,deactivates it then a person with a clear I.V in the sun's rays, then tube fed back into your body would be cure for ebola. Then your body could develope antibodies against ebola. THE CURE, if true.

You would need to be on a iv drip blood thinner such as heparin to anti coagulate to such a level, that the blood doesn't enter the clotting cascade in the plastic tube, generating a thrombosis of the vessel. If 50-90% mortality is the result of the infection. It means that, the body's immune system is not able to generate a antigen-antibody match as readily as for other viruses. Or the virus has a encoded immunosuppression gene encoded within its genome.

ZMAPP, are three monoclonal antibodies found that attach to different parts of the virus inactivating it. If you think of antigen as a part of 3 dimensional structure that the immune system recognizes. And the antibody fits like a jigsaw puzzle on top of the antigen of those 3 antigens. Viral RNA polymerase doesn't have the error checking mechanism that DNA polymerase does, as every time the virus replicates, its genome changes slightly. With a change in genome, the antigens change too. That is also why the influenza vaccine needs to be tailored each year for specific antigens.

Also the virus enters inside the cell protecting itself from UV radiation of the sun.

I was speaking with my friend from Texas today about the latest news there.
He told me that the hospital where his daughter was working had never had a disaster drill for contagious diseases. They have never practiced putting on, working in and taking off the protective gear, such as it is. They've never even seen the level of protective gear required for this type of pathogen.
This type of laxity makes me wonder how they were accredited by the Joint Commission. It's been a lot of years since I had to heft those manuals they passed out with all the rules to meet their guidelines for accreditation but I specifically remember that we had to have proof of preparedness to deal with infectious diseases as well as natural disasters. The only thing they accepted as proof at that time was the actual reports of drills conducted on-site. I'm sure it has all gone digital by now but I remember that the manuals for all those accreditation procedures took up one entire shelf of a bookcase in the supervisor's office. Each individual department had their own shelf of manuals for their particular department.
When my friend's daughter asked her supervisor about precautions they should be taking since the disease had spread last week, the instruction she got was, "Be sure to wear your mask and gloves."
While she doesn't believe she or her family have been exposed, she has seen too many times when staph spread like wildfire through the units to be comforted by being told to "wear your mask and gloves."
Please keep lifting prayers for all those involved in this disaster.

The only medical personnel who are practiced and actually proficient are those who work for the military, the rest are fudging the paperwork to attain their rating like anybody and nearly everybody else.
American's cut corners any time they can get away with it, that is what allowed 9-11 to ever happen at all.
...OSHA called, they're coming to spring a surprise inspection the Tuesday after next...
a reply to: diggindirt

Posted this in another read, figured I post it here too.

About the recent 2+ hour hold on flight UA703 at LAX.

Read on twitter from the same onboard passengers that medics came aboard at approximately 3:55 PM and then proceeded to take the ill woman off.

At 3:59 pm same person quoted the pilot announcing "There was no health scare." and then tweeted a minute later they had begun releasing passengers off plane and that they were holding the afflicted woman for a "psych" evaluation.

Another couple relevant tweets:

@Gingerhazing "one of the passengers is ill and has had contact with someone from Africa"
@PaulHolland_TWN "May or may not have had contact with someone from Africa
@Alexhaggiagdean "United 703 at some distant hangar. Passenger "may or may not" have come in contact with people from West Africa.

Psych evaluation? 4 minute ebola test?

Yesterday I was driving by Good Samaritan hospital in DTLA and they shut down the entire block while I was passing. Had to turn, realized where I was (stuck on the small two lane road going into the hospital dead in front of me) and had a little panic attack, may have busted an illegal u-turn or two. Was instantly reminded of watching the ambulance escorting patients driving by unsuspecting civilians on the freeway. Not a word as to why the entire block was shut down, there are plenty of messed up daily occurrences out here but they don't just shut down a huge/busy part in front of the hospital.

Don't think I'll be goin into the city again anytime soon.

So a healthcare worker in Dallas has now tested positive for Ebola. But they caught it early because she was being monitored.

Thats what the OP stated. More people were showing symptoms.

OP sounds legit to me.

a reply to: BerenstEiner

No, we already knew some people at the hospital would get it. This was the first person to show symptoms.

The OP, several days ago, claimed people already had symptoms.

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: BerenstEiner

No, we already knew some people at the hospital would get it. This was the first person to show symptoms.

The OP, several days ago, claimed people already had symptoms.

4 days ago isn't considered several in my book.

So this health worker showed symptoms, and tested positive for Ebola and the doctors imeadiatly dropped what they were doing and called a press conference. Yeah, that's what happened.

The docs prolly knew about this "several" days ago.

4 days is ample time to get the story straight just for you Rayray, just for you to believe.

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
The only medical personnel who are practiced and actually proficient are those who work for the military, the rest are fudging the paperwork to attain their rating like anybody and nearly everybody else.
American's cut corners any time they can get away with it, that is what allowed 9-11 to ever happen at all.
...OSHA called, they're coming to spring a surprise inspection the Tuesday after next...
a reply to: diggindirt

I suspect you are correct. I further suspect that it is even more "bottom line" oriented in corporate-owned hospitals. Disaster drills are expensive if done correctly so I'm guessing that they've reverted to depending on the modern form of scrying---computer modeling---for their readiness plans.
In looking at the Joint Commission site I can find no indication that they are in any way specialists in treating communicable diseases. www.qualitycheck.org...# They are specialized in treating stroke victims and have won awards for organ donors but I see nothing about their being equipped to handle such bio-hazards.

So why didn't they transfer Mr. Duncan to one of the recognized facilities---like the one in Nebraska where they sent the cameraman? They have the required equipment if the propaganda is true.

a reply to: AllIsOne

We have to take the Ebola virus very seriously, but I don't see a reason to panic at this time.

Ebola deaths worldwide so far: 4'000
Annual influenza deaths worldwide: 500'000

I posted this in another Ebola thread earlier, but I am going to repost it here, too.

It's not necessarily the number of deaths so much as it's the ratio of deaths to infected.

Since I see it brought up a lot that the flu kills many more, let's break down the proportions.

I'm going to use the numbers given on this link to work off of.

US population in 2013 = 317 million
Ave. US cases of flu per year = 5 - 20% (CDC estimates)
Ave. number of US flu deaths per year = 36,000

Let's use worst case of 20% population infected.

63,400,000 is 20% of 317 million.
36,000 deaths out of 63,400,000 million people infected.
That's .056%.
Even rounding up to 6%, the flu has a 94% survival rate.

Ebola's survival rate currently seems to be 50/50.
It would take 72,000 Ebola cases to get the same 36,000 deaths that happen with 63,400,000 flu cases.

THAT'S why the number of Ebola deaths is scary.

So apparently during the testing of the virus a couple of months ago and determining that it had mutated quite a bit, the one thing they didn't do is test to see if that mutation has made the virus easier to contract or even become airborne:

triblive.com...

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner

...OSHA called, they're coming to spring a surprise inspection the Tuesday after next...
a reply to: diggindirt

i laughed at this...because...ive seen it happen at least 3 times at my job...

a reply to: LurkingRelentlessly

Some interesting info on that page

n cold climates, they write, its aerosol transmission profile will be like that of the Avian Flu, a disease that spreads by droplets caused by coughing, sneezing or talking

That is precisely what the CDC told medical and airline personnel in their special advisories to those groups. And it is also precisely what they told the personnel of those industries NOT to tell the rest of us, saying that information was not intended for the general public beyond their industries

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: pasiphae

That's exactly what I'm saying. These nurses weren't doing what they were supposed to. They were negligent. This hospital will probably get sued.

Can't sue the hospital.

The negligence is with the CDC allowing him to be treated in a hospital not equipped to deal with ebola. I thought they were in charge of diseases? Either they better hurry up training and equipping all hospitals or stop letting them just be in any hospital. Why did the two Samaritans purse workers get sent to Atlanta or CDC HQ?

Like I said earlier in another thread maybe; it will be the US that spreads this virus around the world, not west Africa.

originally posted by: violet
Like I said earlier in another thread maybe; it will be the US that spreads this virus around the world, not west Africa.

Well, let's be more specific and lay the blame squarely at the feet of our Nobel Prize winner.

He's to blame for how we've addressed this. Make no mistake about it.

a reply to: halfpint0701
Thanks for the info! Unfortunately, your argument makes sense.

a reply to: violet

I have been thinking about this from an American prospective . The most negligent thing i have seen so far is announcing that the doctor and i believe nurse brought back to America were cured by an experimental vaccine . You don't have to be Einstein to work out what the destination will be for every persons with the money or ways . I don't feel well,pack the bags honey we are off to America .just saying

a reply to: BerenstEiner

sev·er·al
ˈsev(ə)rəl/Submit
determiner & pronoun
1.
more than two but not many.

The OP would be akin to me saying I have inside info and more people in west Africa will get Ebola.

a reply to: violet

The CDC has no control over the hospital, not sure why you think that.