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originally posted by: Catharsis6767
a reply to: neo96
So going by your in amazing logic, in just a few years you will no longer be able to nor want to blame Obama for anything? So all he has to do is run out the clock.
The crackdowns on leaks by the Bush and Obama administrations have come with a “veneer of law,” an attempt to make the crackdowns look legal, he said.
The American of today, in fact, probably enjoys less personal liberty than any other man of Christendom, and even his political liberty is fast succumbing to the new dogma that certain theories of government are virtuous and lawful, and others abhorrent and felonious. Laws limiting the radius of his free activity multiply year by year: It is now practically impossible for him to exhibit anything describable as genuine individuality, either in action or in thought, without running afoul of some harsh and unintelligible penalty. It would surprise no impartial observer if the motto “In God we trust” were one day expunged from the coins of the republic by the Junkers at Washington, and the far more appropriate word, “verboten,” substituted. Nor would it astound any save the most romantic if, at the same time, the goddess of liberty were taken off the silver dollars to make room for a bas-relief of a policeman in a spiked helmet. Moreover, this gradual (and, of late, rapidly progressive) decay of freedom goes almost without challenge; the American has grown so accustomed to the denial of his constitutional rights and to the minute regulation of his conduct by swarms of spies, letter-openers, informers and agents provocateurs that he no longer makes any serious protest. The American Credo: A Contribution toward the Interpretation of the National Mind (1920)
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: Catharsis6767
a reply to: neo96
So going by your in amazing logic, in just a few years you will no longer be able to nor want to blame Obama for anything? So all he has to do is run out the clock.
I must step in here. What NEO said was that George W. Bush didn't create the current situation which is basically true. Bush is responsible for many things, but it is disingenuous to blame him for EVERYTHING like many on ATS do. Obama has plenty of things he will need to own all by himself. Healthcare 'reform' comes to mind.
originally posted by: haviahabia
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: Catharsis6767
a reply to: neo96
So going by your in amazing logic, in just a few years you will no longer be able to nor want to blame Obama for anything? So all he has to do is run out the clock.
I must step in here. What NEO said was that George W. Bush didn't create the current situation which is basically true. Bush is responsible for many things, but it is disingenuous to blame him for EVERYTHING like many on ATS do. Obama has plenty of things he will need to own all by himself. Healthcare 'reform' comes to mind.
And destroying the economy in 2008, the year he was elected, Obama basically ruined the economy in Sept but you can't blame Bush cause Obama was elected in 2008. It's so funny how people try to blame Bush even though he did a great job basically.
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: JamesCookieIII
I agree with your point that it OBVIOUSLY started before George W. Bush, but it's messed any way you look at it.
It did.
Once government takes powers it NEVER gives it up.
NEVER.
originally posted by: Hefficide
a reply to: neo96
Then why run to his defense if you see him as equally culpable as those before ( and implicitly ) after him? They're all crooks but I think that the evils they've heaped upon us need to be owned by each - just in case a day of reckonining ever rises.
Blue, red, or unaffiliated. Those who are guilty should be made to pay without any partisan favoritism nor nostalgia.
originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: JamesCookieIII
I am with you, my ATS Brother. I love the Libertarians...more freedom, less government and no wars. That is just about the perfect platform. I can't stand Repubs or Dems.