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CIA:Porter Goss & the New Night of the Long Knives

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posted on Dec, 8 2004 @ 05:39 AM
The purge at the CIA continues with the Bushonian consolidation of power as Bush Cabalist/ CIA Director Porter Goss tightens his control.

"The CIA is in a state of turmoil. Porter Goss, the new CIA director, has issued a new directive, which is very simple: Support the Bush-Cheney Regime. Or else," writes former government insider Al Martin in his column "What’s Up at the CIA? Porter Goss and the New Night of the Long Knives" published on (

"There will be no more trying to undermine the Regime by telling the truth on such subjects as weapons of mass destruction, missing billions from the defense budget, what it’s actually going to cost for Iraq and Afghanistan, or how long we’re actually going to be there. What he has effectively done is stopped all dissemination of truth from the Agency," continues Martin, author of "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran Contra Insider," a brief history of Bush Family fraud as well as his adventures with the Bush Cabal during the Iran Contra era.

I hope someone out there can add something

posted on Dec, 8 2004 @ 08:00 AM
For any who aren't familiar with the phrase, the original "Night of the Long Knives" refers to Adolf Hitler's June 1934 purge of the leadership of the Sturm Abteilung (SA), whom he viewed as the only body capable of standing between him and his sociopathic desire to rule the world. Seventy-seven (or more; historians seem to agree that the number is probably higher) men were executed on charges of treason. This decimation of the SA lead to the rise of the Schutz Staffeinel (SS) and their fun and games.

Comparing this atrocity to Goss's actions is like comparing, not apples to oranges, but maybe naval oranges to blood oranges; they're two faces of the same beast. Hitler got rid of those whom he didn't like or didn't trust; Goss (i.e. Bush, i.e. Rove) did much the same, but without the bullets.

Certainly, any incoming leader has the right to make personnel changes, but no organization is ever positively served by being comprised solely of "yes" men. Unfortunately, in this administration, only sycophants need apply.

posted on Dec, 8 2004 @ 08:53 AM
The fact that our government's internal checks and balances have been slowly eroding over the past four years and now seem to be dissapearing at a much higher rate is the scariest thing to me. These things happen in plain sight and no revolution, no impeachment, no questioning on capital hill.

The fact that these happen is sad enough, but the fact that nothing is being done/can be done is damn frustrating!

The impilications of these kind of "takeovers" are much more ominous than people think.

posted on Dec, 8 2004 @ 10:03 AM
and today we have an intelligence bill which would allow one person/agency to manage all the intelligence info........does that make you feel safer?

----Together we stand, divided we fall.--------

posted on Dec, 8 2004 @ 01:22 PM
I cotinue where I left off in the start ot this thread...
"There will be no more leaks to the media," Martin writes. "He’s not even allowing any more policy updates to various committees on the Hill without his personal approval, unless he reads them first. To use an old Langley expression, the TC, or Truth Content, must now be absolute zero. Even Bill Casey didn’t have an absolute zero truth content dissemination policy out of the Agency. But that is what he has now done. That is the new Agency policy for public representations as well as policy statement and operations updates to the relevant committees on the Hill. And from now on they take all political marching orders from Karl Rove. He’s the guy that’s giving the marching orders from the White House."

For whoever might wonder where this info is coming from ..'The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran Contra Insider," by Al Martin..The Man is an independent economic-political analyst with 25 years of experience as a trader on NYMEX, CME, CBOT and CFTC. As a former contributor to the Presidential Council of Economic Advisors, Al Martin is considered to be a source of independent analysis for financially sophisticated and market savvy investors.

After working as a broker on Wall Street, Al Martin was involved in the so-called "Iran Contra" Affair as a fundraiser for the Bush Cabal from the covert side of government aka the US Shadow Government....

[edit on 8-12-2004 by Horus_Re]

posted on Dec, 9 2004 @ 08:35 PM
Porter Goss has been seen with quite a few unsavory characters.

A journalist, Daniel Hopsicker, received a photograph in the post. It came from Debbie Seal, the widow of CIA operative, Barry Seal. The person claimed that the photograph was taken in a Mexico City nightclub of members of the CIA’s secret assassination squad known as “Operation 40".

"On 11th December, 1959, Colonel J. C. King, chief of CIA's Western Hemisphere Division, sent a confidential memorandum to Allen W. Dulles, the director of the Central Intelligence Agency. King argued that in Cuba there existed a 'far-left dictatorship, which if allowed to remain will encourage similar actions against U.S. holdings in other Latin American countries.'

As a result of this memorandum Dulles established Operation 40. The group was presided over by Richard Nixon. Tracy Barnes became operating officer of what was also called the Cuban Task Force. The first meeting chaired by Barnes took place in his office on 18th January, 1960, and was attended by David Atlee Phillips, E. Howard Hunt, Jack Esterline, and Frank Bender.

On 4th March, 1960, La Coubre, a ship flying a Belgian flag, exploded in Havana Bay. It was loaded with arms and ammunition that had been sent to help defend Cuba's revolution from its enemies. The explosion killed 75 people and over 200 were injured. Fabian Escalante, an officer of the Department of State Security (G-2), later claimed that this was the first successful act carried out by Operation 40.

Over the next few years Operation 40 worked closely with several anti-Castro Cuban organizations including Alpha 66. Bernard L. Barker, Frank Sturgis, William C. Bishop and David Morales also joined the project. Cuban figures used by the Operation 40 included Antonio Veciana, Roland Masferrer and Eladio del Valle."

Daniel Hopsicker claims that the head the CIA, Porter Goss, appears to be in the photograph. Hopsicker writes:

"The Mexico City nightclub photo reveals a mixed group of apparent Cuban exiles, Italian wise guys, and square-jawed military intelligence types. It was discovered among keepsakes kept in the safe of the widow of CIA pilot and drug smuggler Barry Seal (third from left). It appears on the cover of 'Barry & ‘the boys:' The CIA, the Mob & America’s Secret History” (MadCow Press, Eugene OR. 2001).
Goss appears second on the left. He is seated between notorious CIA pilot and drug smuggler Barry Seal (third left) and the equally-notorious CIA assassin Felix Rodriguez (front left), a Cuban vice cop under the corrupt Mob-run Batista regime who later became an Iran Contra operative and a confidant of the first George Bush.

The only one of the spook celebrants displaying any hint of tradecraft (seated on the other side of the table covering his face with his sport coat) is Frank Sturgis, most famous as one of the Watergate burglars.

Beside him sits (front right) William Seymour, New Orleans representative of the Double-Chek Corporation, a CIA front used to recruit pilots (like Seal), and a man who many Kennedy assassination researchers believe impersonated Lee Harvey Oswald on several occasions when the lone nut gunman was out of the country and so unable to impersonate himself.

As we saw it, the photo was in a yellowed frame, the kind used by nightclub photographers to create instant keepsakes. Seal’s widow Debbie Seal kept it in her safe, where it was overlooked by a 7-man team from the State Department which arrived at her house in 1995 to comb through her records.

It bears the name of a nightclub in Mexico City, and is stamped January 22, 1963, which, if you’re counting, was exactly ten months to the day before the Kennedy assassination.

Barry Seal was then a young-looking 24-year old. Porter Goss was the same age."

It is now known that Porter Goss was based at the JM/WAVE, the CIA station in Miami where he worked with people such as Ted Shackley, David Sanchez Morales, Edward Lansdale, William Harvey and Tracy Barnes.

Members of Operation 40 have been associated with the assassination of JFK.

Thanks to John Simkin for this information.

[edit on 9-12-2004 by maynardsthirdeye]

posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 04:47 PM
I personally salute the dictum that there will be no more leaks from the agencies. I mean, what good is an intelligence agency that whispers to the currently favored media members? The only leaks they should be supplying are disinformation, to keep the enemies off balance.

There was a day when our human intel was effective. That was before Clinton and Albright made it illegal to do business with bad guys and known felons. Sorry to say, the Boy Scouts didn't know when the parties started, so we were badly hamstrung. Hopefully, Goss kept some of his contacts with the bad guys.

posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 05:40 PM

REP. GOSS: It is true I was in CIA from approximately the late 50's to approximately the early 70's. And it's true I was a case officer, clandestine services office and yes I do understand the core mission of the business. I couldn't get a job with CIA today. I am not qualified. I don't have the language skills. I, you know, my language skills were romance languages and stuff. We're looking for Arabists today. I don't have the cultural background probably. And I certainly don't have the technical skills, uh, as my children remind me every day, "Dad you got to get better on your computer." Uh, so, the things that you need to have, I don't have.
-- Rep. Porter Goss, March 3, 2004, Washington, DC

How many failures will it take for him to get a Presidential Medal of Freedom?

posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 05:48 PM
Hell curme, as long as he cleans house within the CIA, I really don't care how many times he, or people who think he will, "fails"......

The job of doing such was and is long overdue. Btw, isn't it amazing that you and others can claim that the Bush administration used "faulty' intelligences, in regards to Saddam and his WMDs, ( the same ones that Clinton used and created) and yet, then want to cry foul when someone comes in and decides that the same intelligence organization that gave that "faulty" intelligence needs to be cleaned up.....? Ironic or hypocritical?


posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 05:55 PM
The CIA told Cheney that Saddam wasn't a threat, and that an invasion would be a failure. He heard what he wanted to hear, and created lies as an excuse to invade Iraq. Then he tries to scapegoat the CIA when it blows up in his face! Cheney doesn't want people with facts to question his judgement. He wants drones who will follow his whim, hence the CIA house cleaning.

posted on Dec, 17 2004 @ 06:02 PM

as posted by curme
The CIA told Cheney that Saddam wasn't a threat...

Yep, the very same agency that also provided the intelligence to say that Saddam had WMDs. The same intellignece service that during the Clinton years built and accumulated further intelligence documentations on and of Saddam's WMDs.
I hear ya, curme.


posted on Jan, 4 2005 @ 11:36 AM
Umm. seekerof....why don't you provide some articles of the intelligence accumulated during the Clinton administration, showing that Iraq was a threat/had WMDs? Because I have videos of Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice talking about the benign and harmless nature of Iraq and their inability to make WMDs. These were videos of press conferences shot in 2001 before Sep. 11th. And curme is right, the CIA wasn't reconstructed to rid it of leaks and faulty intelligence, it was reconstructed to place yes-men in key positions to add validity to the claims which the neo-con/PNAC needs to make and follow up on to succed in their agenda.

Paper written in 2000 by the PNAC outlining their agenda

Colin and Condoleeza talking baout Iraq's capabilities before 9/11

Bush planned Iraq regime change before becoming president

posted on Jan, 4 2005 @ 11:44 AM

Originally posted by Seekerof

as posted by curme
The CIA told Cheney that Saddam wasn't a threat...

Yep, the very same agency that also provided the intelligence to say that Saddam had WMDs. The same intellignece service that during the Clinton years built and accumulated further intelligence documentations on and of Saddam's WMDs.
I hear ya, curme.

Yeah, Seekerof the same intelligent that Mr. Bush wanted to hear, coming from Chalabi and Allawi, or you forgot the Allawi 45 minute MWDs.

See, Bush was very selective on whom he was listening too.


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