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Lawyer Who Beat the NSA Files Obama 'Deportation Petition'

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posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: sheepslayer247

You could be right.

Taking anything like this to "court" is futile.

1. The courts can't remove a President, only Congress can.

2. Even if they could, a Plaintiff needs to show cause and/or harm.

Showing cause/harm in a birth issue is usually not sufficient because no health or criminal issue exists.

However, Congress can investigate with possible cause/harm (and they "unofficially" are, through a private law firm).

One possible court "legal/illegal" issue would be the Obama birth certificates posted by the White House.

The fact that those are copies of copies etc could be considered illegal, even they are copies of "legal" originals.

This is why we have no court suits involving any sealed adoption records revolving around any Obama adoptions in Hawaii.


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posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 10:51 PM
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a reply to: hellobruce

US courts have declared Obama is a natural born US citizen....

Remember all the birther court cases,
Total Actions: 226
Birthers win: 0
Birthers lose: 220
Pending: 6



“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”

-Vladimir Lenin


The Obama PR campaign is very effective.


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posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 11:44 PM
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a reply to: sheepslayer247

"Kenyan Community Organizer" is not a propaganda term, unless you are a brainwashed liberal, then it is. In his bid for the senate one of the things he listed as 'experience' was being a community organizer. That is not propaganda, it is fact. He had to say that because he had no experience of any kind. As a senator he voted 'present' 98 times. In his entire term of office as a senator he voted a total of 98 times. In other words, he voted neither for or against anything. All he did was say that he was there. That is some record.

As for what is wrong with being a liberal, the list is far too long to describe here. But lets try this: right now the US ranks third highest on the list of murder rates in the world. If you take the cities Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, and New Orleans out of the equation, the US drops to fourth from the bottom of the list. The main thing those four cities have in common is they are all run by liberal democrats, and they toe the liberal line with the toughest gun laws in the country. Obviously the liberal anti-gun agenda is working very well....for the criminals...



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 11:56 PM
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originally posted by: JBRiddle
The issue is no one has seen a real copy of his birth certificate.


What are you babbling about now? Here it is
www.factcheck.org...


At every turn Obama's lawyers have gotten the lawsuits thrown out of court.


More birther lies, have a look at exactly why birthers lost in 220 cases so far.

tesibria.typepad.com...


This should be a simple matter of Obama saying heres my birth certificate now go away, but hes has not.


Yes he has, twice. But this whole stupid birther argument has nothing at all to do with any bit of paper Obama produces, it has to do with him being the legal POTUS.


Base upon the information that has been provided in the suit,


What suit are you on about?


the Judge my find cause to ask Obama to show his birth certificate to end this inquiry.


What judge are you babbling about now?


everyone remember the one the Birth Certificate that the White House put out?


You are very very cionfused, first you said Obama had not shown a BC, then you claim he has shown one....


Well you should know that is a forgery and a poor one at that.


No it is not - remember, no expert has actually examined it.


Now if he attempts to pass that off as his official birth certificate,


He has....


Larry Klayman is going to ask to have it authenticated.


Ask who exactly? You really are confused.


And if this is done you will have a Federal Court OFFICIALLY saying that its a forgery.


What federal court? you are still confused.


The whole lawsuit


WHAT LAWSUIT? You keep babbling as if there is a lawsuit - do some research before posting such nonsense.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 11:58 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
This is why we have no court suits involving any sealed adoption records revolving around any Obama adoptions in Hawaii.


Wrong again, how can there be a court involved in non existent adoption records from Hawaii??



posted on Oct, 5 2014 @ 12:13 AM
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originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: xuenchen
This is why we have no court suits involving any sealed adoption records revolving around any Obama adoptions in Hawaii.


Wrong again, how can there be a court involved in non existent adoption records from Hawaii??


I have explained that.

The courts can not confirm or deny the existence without merits.

The entire issue is a controlled opposition plan.

And a very good and professional plan.




posted on Oct, 5 2014 @ 12:21 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
The entire issue is a controlled opposition plan.


Wrong again, the entire issue is about some people refusing to accept Obama was twice legally elected as POTUS.

In their world such things are not allowed, so they continue to make crap up.



posted on Oct, 5 2014 @ 02:35 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

More Obama bashing from you and your compatriot. Once again it's all pointless. He could literally move to Africa after going on national TV and saying "you were all right. I'm a foreign born Muslim terrorist". He'd leave office and nothing would change. We'd still be marching down the road to fascism.

The nation itself is corrupt or broken, thanks to American apathy towards politics. The corporations took over bit by bit while people became complacent from our prosperity, which corporations took credit for despite american success coming from the hard work of its middle class citizens rather than its CEOs. They even hired a famous Hollywood actor to become president and so their bidding.

Ever since then corporations have been pointing money into entertainment and wars to distract us while they rob us blind.



posted on Oct, 5 2014 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: tavi45

Dont bother. He doesn't understand. He actually thinks Obama is an evil Kenyan Mooslim Isis guy, hell bent on destroying 'Murica!

In his mind, Republicans will save the day.

He really believes that. Hes been doing it for years now. It is sad to see ppl spend so much energy and effort into propaganda against one party and one man, when the truth is that both parties are paid for and work toward the sane agenda.

Obama=Bush= Military Industrial Complex = keep fighting Terror and wars

Corporations and defense contractors run this country,
yet all He sees is "Kenya", "Hussein", "Chicago", "Communist"........like a moth to a flame.



posted on Oct, 5 2014 @ 07:53 PM
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Most intelligent Democrat's are Waking Up.


Rather than supporting Obama, most Democrats, 53 percent, say they will not be sending a message with their vote.

Their seeing the Light and it isn't shining from Obama any more.


“Democrats are a bit less likely now (38 percent) than in 2010 (45 percent) to say they will be sending a message of support to Obama, while Republican opposition to the president is the same.”

Link
Now if only the rest of the Progressive's could get it through their heads, Obama is nothing but a Con-Man.



posted on Oct, 6 2014 @ 05:53 AM
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originally posted by: boncho
When people do this kind of thing they make a mockery of the legal system. They know it isn't going anywhere, unless self delusional, so whats the point?


Really? Trying to actually enforce the laws of the country is making a mockery of it? If the courts just throw anything like this out at least we will bring attention to this corruption. That's a good thing, sitting back and letting our freedoms be stripped from us one by one by an illegal alien isn't the way to go. A legal troll who defends our citizens from federal abuses of power, what a dick huh.
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posted on Oct, 6 2014 @ 06:06 AM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel

As a senator he voted 'present' 98 times. In his entire term of office as a senator he voted a total of 98 times. In other words, he voted neither for or against anything. All he did was say that he was there. That is some record.



Could you source your claim of 98 "presents" with no actual votes? Because this is his official record and it disproves the statement you've made utterly.



posted on Oct, 6 2014 @ 06:31 AM
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originally posted by: dr1234

originally posted by: boncho
When people do this kind of thing they make a mockery of the legal system. They know it isn't going anywhere, unless self delusional, so whats the point?


Really? Trying to actually enforce the laws of the country is making a mockery of it? If the courts just throw anything like this out at least we will bring attention to this corruption. That's a good thing, sitting back and letting our freedoms be stripped from us one by one by an illegal alien isn't the way to go. A legal troll who defends our citizens from federal abuses of power, what a dick huh.


Suing your mother is trying to enforce the laws of the country?

Might wanna read my full posts bub.



posted on Oct, 6 2014 @ 06:38 AM
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originally posted by: dr1234
by an illegal alien isn't the way to go.


What evidence do you have that Obama is a illegal alien? how can he be a "illegal alien" when he was born in Hawaii?



posted on Oct, 6 2014 @ 06:40 AM
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originally posted by: Hefficide
Could you source your claim of 98 "presents" with no actual votes? Because this is his official record and it disproves the statement you've made utterly.


Well obviously that is a forged document, as apparently a birther site claims he only voted "present" 98 times....



posted on Oct, 7 2014 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: Hefficide

Disproves nothing. I looked for the article but could not find it. It was from when he was a senator and stated very simply that he had voted present 98 times. At that time it was true, or at least the person who wrote the article believed it to be so.



posted on Oct, 7 2014 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
At that time it was true, or at least the person who wrote the article believed it to be so.


So you got your claim from a silly birther site.... probably the same birther site you got your false claim Obama's grandmother said he was born in Kenya, or the site that wrongfully claims his BC was forged...
Birther sites that have posted many many lies about Obama, and the gullible believe them!
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posted on Oct, 7 2014 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: boncho

One could say that BO is making a mockery of the legal system. I guess that the American Revolution made a mockery of English law. The legal system is so #ed up in the USA and you call this a mockery?



posted on Oct, 7 2014 @ 07:19 PM
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originally posted by: guitarplayer
a reply to: boncho

One could say that BO is making a mockery of the legal system.


One could say invisible pink unicorns are cavorting on the white house lawn - saying something does not make it true.... Exactly how is Obama making a mockery of the legal system?



posted on Oct, 7 2014 @ 09:10 PM
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a reply to: hellobruce

No, it wasn't a birther site. It was most likely the Chicago Tribune. And just because you don't believe it doesn't mean its not true. You don't believe anything that isn't chewed up, regurgitated and spoon fed to you by the dnc. His grandmother DID say she witnessed his birth in Kenya, whether you believe it or not. And the BC WAS forged. You can see that for yourself, if you take off the dnc blinders. The dnc has told many many lies about Obama and the gullible believe them!

You really have to get a grip on your anger issues and reality for that matter. Just because you have been brainwashed beyond the point of even considering an opinion other than your own doesn't mean your opinion is the only one that's ever true. The truth doesn't depend on you for its existence. It does just fine without you...which is a good thing, because based on your posts it will never do anything with you....

You believe every piece of crap that the dnc spews, right up to and including "hope and change...hope and change..." How is that hope and change working for you? Oh wait, the dnc party line...yeah, that's right, its Bush's fault isn't it...

OK liberals....and a one...and a two...and a three:

YES WE CAN
YES WE CAN
MAYBE WE CAN
MAYBE WE CAN
MAYBE WE CANT
MAYBE WE CANT
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE
ITS BUSH'S FAULT
ITS BUSH'S FAULT
ITS BUSH'S FAULT

Repeat ad-nauseam - to the point of inducing nausea. A point you reached six years ago. Thank you liberals for the biggest embarrassment this nation has ever suffered.


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