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originally posted by: Nechash
a reply to: NoNameNeeded
I think if reincarnation were a surefire thing, there'd be many more people who recall past lives. Maybe when you "die" in this realm, you are brainwashed squeaky clean, put into an amnesia trance and plugged into a new life? It would be nice. If I knew for sure I'd just respawn, I probably would have ended it at some point along the way. Maybe once you become enlightened enough to realize that it is really just a game and you no longer take it seriously, they pull you out so you don't ruin the suspension of disbelief for everyone else???
originally posted by: NoNameNeeded
Promoting the idea that after death there is *nothing* is as hard to swallow as the idea of multiple lives, imo.
How does that work exactly, nothing?... I've been told before that it's like before I was born, but well, thats just as vague you know... I cant imagine nothingness, you know why?
EVERYTHING WILL STILL BE HERE! Its only me, and even only an invisible(!) part of me that is "gone"...
Nothing does not exist, I'm afraid, thats why humans have always looked for a more viable answer, we just cant know which one is, but the most likely is what I'd call scientific reincarnation, like i posted above, most of "us" is reused, but awareness is unique and restarts every life... There is never "nothing"!
originally posted by: NoNameNeeded
But only due to moral pressure! Its immoral to have an elder demented person in pain suffer, but it is to let someone who is criminally ill?... Its not only stupid overemotional teens that think about suicide and are prevented from doing so, its also disturbed sexually frustrated pedophiles, split personality murderers,... I can almost certainly guarantee these people are somehow hindered as well, just like i have been, so i wonder why we pay this price?
"As a young woman, Tamara Laroux was in an immense amount of emotional pain. One day she decided to finally end it once and for all and she took a .38 and shot herself in the chest. What happened next was a complete and total shock to her...." Tamara Laroux
"Then I heard a voice of awesome power, not loud but crashing over me like a booming wave of sound; a voice that encompassed such ferocious anger that with one word it could destroy the universe, and that also encompassed such potent and unwavering love that, like the sun, it could coax life from the earth. I cowered at its force and at its excruciating words:
"Is this what you really want? Don't you know that this is the worst thing you could have done?"
I could feel his anger and frustration, both because I'd thrown in the towel and because I had cut myself off from him and from his guidance.
So I answered: "But my life is so hard."
"You think that was hard? It is nothing compared to what awaits you if you take your life."
When the Father spoke, each of his words exploded into a complex of meanings, like fireworks, tiny balls of light that erupted into a billion bits of information, filling me with streams of vivid truth and pure understanding." Angie Fenimores NDE & Suicide
"Angie Fenimore, a wife and mother haunted by abuse in childhood and overwhelmed by despair, was in a desperate state of mind. On January 8, 1991, she committed suicide, hoping to escape her sense of emptiness and suffering. But clinical death didn't draw her to the light seen in so many near-death experiences."
“Tell her that if she decides to go through with the taking of her life, there are eternal consequences that she will have to deal with for the rest of her eternal life. The PAIN that she will cause her daughter and immediate family members will be severe and permanent!
Angie Fenimore - NDE
…13Jesus answered and said to her, "Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again; 14but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life." 15The woman said to Him, "Sir, give me this water, so I will not be thirsty nor come all the way here to draw."…
Isaiah 55:1 "Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost.
Jeremiah 2:13 "My people have committed two sins: They have forsaken me, the spring of living water, and have dug their own cisterns, broken cisterns that cannot hold water.
looking for the answer to all that is worth sticking around for, if nothing else..
switchin' on lightbulbs & puttin' out fires is good too