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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
What happens when you cut a hologram of an apple in half a million times? You get two million whole apples, not halves and halves of halves as you'd expect. Each slice contains the whole form of the original apple, the same goes for us. We are each a slice of the universe containing the entire universe within us. In my opinion this could also be an answer to the multiverse theories, we are each our own parallel universe or slice of the apple experiencing the same reality at once.
What if we're all the same entity, only experiencing itself from infinite unique perspectives? What if our universe is only a thoughtform and not actually real?
I love this kind of stuff, S&F!
originally posted by: grandmakdw
Ok then, can we collectively ignore Ebola away?
Can we pretend things don't exist out of existence if we really try hard?
Can we get rid of Islamic State of Daesh just by denying it's existance and truly believing it?
Can we stop the mystery illness Obolio by saying it doesn't exist?
Enlighten us all so we can turn our current dystopia into utopia.
originally posted by: Antipathy17
a reply to: TheJourney
What if one mind isn't present but another is. how is it possible for the tree to have fallen and make a sound if my perception is the only one and I wasn't there to hear it?
originally posted by: Woodcarver
I think your title is innacurate. The world and the universe are real in any sense you try to take it. Its observable.
originally posted by: Beyond Creation
Reality Vs Actuality. There is only 'A' actuality Vs an infinite number of realities, or perceptions as you say.
A falling tree, despite being out of ear-shot, still produces a sound wave - energy. Whether or not a sound is sensed (realised), does not affect the actuality of the falling tree and its sound wave.
The world in which we live, I believe is what happens when many consciousnesses are 'squashed' together, in addition to creating several dimensions within them, some physical and some non-physical. Time and space are dimensions, or realities of the physical world, however, I suspect that the actuality is that we all exist simultaneously on the whole illusory timeline (past/present/future) and that the space in which we are contained, is also an illusion.
The dream world is an obvious example of how we are able to have an experience without using any physical senses.
Dreams can be utterly ridiculous and unfamiliar nonsense but what is really being experienced are emotions and thought energy. It's somewhere between these two that reality is manifested. There's little surprise that this is a world of conflict given that every atom can be anything and everything at anytime and all the time.
This is an ancient topic of debate. Nothing really exists Vs The reality of suffering. As we've seen by grandmakdw's post and your reply, emotions are perhaps the most real thing we have as they have the most effect on reality.
originally posted by: IBossJekler
a reply to: TheJourney
I completely understand your idea that the only reason anything is thought to exist is because our brain tells us it does based on some senses it has.
A really good read for how you are thinking about the world is a book called God's Debris by Scott Adams. It is very well written and brought up as a thought experiment. I guess as a summary it would be that god himself tried to destroy himself, fully knowing he could reassemble but because maybe he wanted to try something different. The whole universe is his debris after this and we are part of his process of reforming. He is still ever present even if not in his whole. So in a way we all actually don't exist we are just a small part of an infinite amount of reactions and will be long gone before anything comes to light. After all if there is a god it owes us crap and we owe it everything just to be able to assimilate these so called senses into something that seems so absolutely amazing!
God or not this world, within a galaxy, within a universe is F-n amazing!
Atleast it's something different than the ideas people are already battling over. It was written in 2001 I read it years ago and was kinda surprised it didn't get more attention.