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Ibuprofen Is All It Takes to Avoid Airport Ebola Screening: Experts

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posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 08:07 AM
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Here we have it, airport screening can be circumvented with a lie and a handful of Ibuprofen to keep your fever at bay while boarding a flight.


"The fever-screening instruments run low and aren't that accurate," said infection control specialist Sean Kaufman, president of Behavioral-Based Improvement Solutions, a biosafety company based in Atlanta. "And people can take ibuprofen to reduce their fever enough to pass screening, and why wouldn't they? If it will get them on a plane so they can come to the United States and get effective treatment after they're exposed to Ebola, wouldn't you do that to save your life?" On Thursday, Liberia said the first Ebola patient to be diagnosed in the United States had lied on a questionnaire at Monrovia's airport about his exposure to an Ebola patient. Thomas Eric Duncan's arrival and hospitalization in Dallas have underscored how much U.S. authorities are relying on their counterparts in West African countries to screen passengers and contain the worst Ebola outbreak on record.


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Well I think many of us had already gathered that it was possible to get past the no contact temperature screening at airports, but this just solidifies that thought. I hate to say it, but flights leaving Ebola infected areas need a better screening method, or need to be halted all together. The no contact temperature screen coupled with a questionnaire that can be lied on just aren't cutting it.




posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: SpaDe_
This is all very disturbing, and what makes it even more so is the possibility of corruption of lower govt officials (civil servants).

Check this out. It's from January last year.

The record will show that since 2007, the lowest paid civil servants have earned their monthly income rise from the low of US$15.00 to the minimum of US$100.00 today. We have made particular effort in adjusting the salaries of teachers, health workers, security personnel and our men and women of our armed forces…
(Bolding mine).
From Civil Servants Salary Increased by $25.

That's a $25-per-month increase, please note. So govt employees earn a minimum of $100 a month.

I imagine the people employed to "screen" outgoing passengers at airports are not highly paid. But even if they are making two or three times the official minimum wage for govt employees, that's still a pittance compared to the cost of air tickets to fly to eg the US. I saw a figure of $6600 for a flight itinery like Mr Duncan's. That's more than five years' pay for a govt worker on their (increased) minimum wage.

So, as some people with the money to fly out would probably also have the cash to bribe an official or two if need be, is it hard to imagine that a couple of hundred bucks could get an official to overlook a high temperature or even "lose" your questionnaire?

It wouldn't surprise me at all.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 08:46 AM
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a reply to: SpaDe_

I'm thinking if I were in Africa and contracted it, I would want to come home. Thinking, ya know, if I can just get home to the states, I can survive this. But my conscience would stop me.

So might many others think the same way, and try to 'bug out' from the affected area as soon as they realize they've been exposed.

Can't really blame folks. Good for them, potentially lethal for us. : (



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: JustMike

I can see where that could be a problem as well. Not sure how often it happens, but with wages like that, it wouldn't take much I'm thinking to get them to look the other way. People will do whatever it takes to survive, or make survival a little more comfortable.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: SpaDe_

This could be massivley irresponsible jounalism by NBC-They have basically advertised a way for terrorists to gain entry into the West if they wish to spread ebola purposely.
There is "DHS chatter" that this may be being considered or attempted by suspected terrorists,at least according to infowars:

www.infowars.com...

Whatever anyone thinks of infowars,I must admit the idea,at least,sounds credible.
And damned scary.




posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 09:11 AM
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What's really shocking about the "politically correct " types that are trying to be nice and correct about this can die just like the rest of us, and can't see the true horror that this can grow into.

This does not have to become airborne, the idiots handling this event have done that by letting people fly all over the world out of fear of offending someone.

The family of the guy in Texas have proven how some people will react to being quarantined by having to put a guard on them, some people just don't have the caring or mentality to see what could happen tell they are sick and have infected many more.
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posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: Silcone Synapse

I am sure that there are many other ways for a terrorist to gain entry with Ebola than just flying. I'm not saying that this article might not be making it easier for those that were unaware, but this just shows how easy the detection process is to bypass if needed/wanted.

I don't think that it will take a terrorist organization to bring Ebola here, just look how many people one regular guy that slipped through screening came into contact with. That was just one. Now imagine if 20-50 people managed to do the same thing in other major airports and cities.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: Silcone Synapse

OR...it's a public service that can lead to vigorous debate that may result in a ban on flights from Ebola impacted zones.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Why does this have to have anything to do with terrorist in that they still need ideas on how to destroy America, they can do that anytime they grow a pair and quit running there cowardly mouth, hell they can't get past hiding behind women and children.

Ay this point with the idiots that are handling this , all they have to do is sit back and WATCH !!!!



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: Battleline
a reply to: Silcone Synapse
At this point with the idiots that are handling this , all they have to do is sit back and WATCH !!!!


It certainly looks that way I am sorry to say-the photo of the guys cleaning up Ebola puke without any protective gear,and using a pressure washer of all things blew my mind when I saw it this morning.

Unbelievable stupidity..



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: kosmicjack

This right here is what is ultimately needed in my opinion, but I would settle for a more thorough screening process for the time being. A quick temperature check accompanied by a questionnaire is just to simple of a screening process. I don't have the answer for a better screening process, but this one is obviously not working.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: Silcone Synapse

OR...it's a public service that can lead to vigorous debate that may result in a ban on flights from Ebola impacted zones.


Sort of would have been nice if they had done that from the start I think...whats that saying about shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted?

The governments seem more concerned that a travel ban would offend people or hurt the economy-what the hell do they think will happen to their precious economies if a pandemic errupts?



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: SpaDe_

If this is true, These people could be charged with reckless endangerment. Those folk hoping to find better treatment abroad could very well be sentencing many others to death in the hope of sparing their own lives.

TBH the airlines should drastically reduce the number of incoming and outgoing flights to allow time for the incubation period to expire-their rotating door flights cannot be helping the situation.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 10:40 AM
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What does it take to be exposed to Ebola

which is very highly contagious if any body fluid gets on you from someone at the airport who has taken ibuprofen to control their symptoms and fool the airport screeners?

The CDC says it is not airborne, because technically it is not, airborne in disease terms means the virus is small enough to travel more than a few feet in a sneeze or cough. The Ebola virus is large and falls within 3-4 feet of a sneeze and so is not technically airborne.

However, the cough and sneeze radius:
would include anyone on the airplane to either side of the ill person also, the people behind and in front of the ill person. exposed

Sitting in the airport lounge waiting for a flight, anyone within a 3-4 foot radius if the sick person sneezes or coughs. exposed

Using the urinal at the airport , the guy who is ill standing next to you sneezes or coughs or splashes urine on your bare skin. exposed

Passing by you on a airplane on the way to the restroom, a sneeze or cough, exposed

Standing next to you waiting for luggage, sneeze or cough, exposed

Standing next to you in line getting on the plane or off, or in the security line, sneeze or cough, exposed

In an elevator with you anywhere in the airport and sneezes or coughs, exposed.

Standing within 3 feet of you anywhere and sneezes or coughs, exposed.



Also, if the person who is ill gets any bodily fluid on their hands:
whatever they touch will carry the germ
long enough (estimates between 8-15 hours)

that if someone who is ill and didn't just wash their hands after sneezing, coughing, using the restroom, touching their eyes or mouth, sweating and you touch it within 8 hours after they do:

for instance touches a restroom slide , exposed

touches the top of an airplane seat, exposed

touches a door handle in the airport, exposed

all within 8-15 hours after the ill person touches it, exposed


The CDC guy on Chris Matthews show
would not say that you could not catch it from
fever sweat that touches and arm rest or seat cushion, exposed


Think I am being a fear monger? Take a look at this.
Instructions for laboratory workers and health care workers:

SOURCES/SPECIMENS: Blood, serum, urine, respiratory and throat secretions, semen, and organs or their homogenates from human or animal hosts Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 53.
COMMUNICABILITY: Communicable as long as blood, body fluids or organs, contain the virus. Ebolavirus has been isolated from semen 61 to 82 days after the onset of illness, and transmission through semen has occurred 7 weeks after clinical recovery Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 59 Footnote 60.
Ebolavirus dried onto glass, polymeric silicone rubber, or painted aluminum alloy is able to survive in the dark for several hours under ambient conditions (between 20 and 250C and 30–40% relative humidity) (amount of virus reduced to 37% after 15.4 hours), but is less stable than some other viral hemorrhagic fevers (Lassa) Footnote 53. When dried in tissue culture media onto glass and stored at 4 °C, Zaire ebolavirus survived for over 50 days Footnote 61.
PHYSICAL INACTIVATION: Ebola are moderately thermolabile and can be inactivated by heating for 30 minutes to 60 minutes at 60°C (140 degrees F), boiling for 5 minutes, or gamma irradiation (1.2 x106 rads to 1.27 x106 rads) combined with 1% glutaraldehyde Footnote 10 Footnote 48 Footnote 50.
www.phac-aspc.gc.ca...

Canadian Health Department and CDC statements:
The Canadian Health Department states that airborne transmission of Ebola is strongly suspected and the CDC admits that Ebola can be transmitted in situations where there is no physical contact between people, i.e.: via direct airborne inhalation into the lungs or into the eyes, or via contact with airborne fomites which adhere to nearby surfaces. That helps explain why 81 doctors, nurses and other healthcare workers have died in West Africa to date.
www.americanthinker.com...

Observation: It appears the US CDC is purposely lying to the American public about Ebola.

If it is so hard to catch, then how did Docs in haz mat suits catch it in Africa? They certainly weren't touching patients.

This is far nastier stuff than the American public is being told,

we need to close our borders to people from infected countries until the pandemic is over,

and to protect ourselves,

shut down everywhere infected people have been in the US for 21 days,
harsh, yes, hurt the economy, probably,

but that is better than millions upon millions of deaths.


I agree that the man should be sent back to Africa and prosecuted as his country wants to do. The CDC should be sued for its poor handling with the airlines. The hospital should be sued for turning the man back out on the street. The school system and CDC should be sued for allowing the children to attend school, if even for a few days.





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posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: Battleline
What's really shocking about the "politically correct " types that are trying to be nice and correct about this can die just like the rest of us, and can't see the true horror that this can grow into.

This does not have to become airborne, the idiots handling this event have done that by letting people fly all over the world out of fear of offending someone.

The family of the guy in Texas have proven how some people will react to being quarantined by having to put a guard on them, some people just don't have the caring or mentality to see what could happen tell they are sick and have infected many more.


All they have to do is shave and pretend they are from South America and walk through the southern border. We have let lots of sick people in through the border. Active TB cases have been let in. The new mystery virus that causes a polio like illness Obolio, looks like the origin is the kids from south america.

So all they have to do is shave

walk through the southern border

they can even have a fever and be vomiting

and the US will let them in

if they aren't vomiting

the US will give them a piece of paper and tell them to report to someone, but never follow up

and give them a ticket to anywhere in the US they want to go.


Easy easy easy to weaponize Ebola that way. Heard that scenario all over the radio yesterday.

Thank you liberals/progressives/Democrats/socialists who want open borders with amnesty so bad they are endangering everyone in the US and causing an epidemic of Obolio and now - the terrorists have already figured it out, they are announcing it on their sites and social media - just walk across the open border at the south and ask for asylum or falsely promise to report to the person on the slip of paper.





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posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 11:46 AM
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I don't think anyone with enough brain cells to put one foot in front of the other need to read an article to give them the idea that they can bypass airport temperature screening by taking ibuprofen,aspirin,or even paracetamol/paracetamol combined with codeine or aspirin.I am seldom feverish,because I extremely seldom get sick,but on such occasions,I would take paracetamol+codeine combined tabs+an aspirin or two washed down with a nice cuppa tea-i call it the triplewhammy.But if it was something like bronchitis,I would tell my doc,so she could bear that in mind,when taking my temp.Everyone knows that, unless you were raised by wolves:-) not being an ass,just saying.About the matter of jihadists infecting themselves with Ebola-well if your every breath is accompanied by fanatical hatred for an enemy,real or perceived,I suppose you'd spend an inordinate amount of time pondering on ways to harm that enemy.Those who would love to harm the US/the West/pretty much any perceived or real enemy -have propably thought up multitudes of ingenious ways to do so,that everyday people like you and I could'nt even imagine,because they breathe maniacal hatred and live to bring death,and we don't.It's not just governments who will not let a crisis go to waste.a reply to: Silcone Synapse


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posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 06:59 PM
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originally posted by: SpaDe_

Well I think many of us had already gathered that it was possible to get past the no contact temperature screening at airports, but this just solidifies that thought. I hate to say it, but flights leaving Ebola infected areas need a better screening method, or need to be halted all together. The no contact temperature screen coupled with a questionnaire that can be lied on just aren't cutting it.


Ebola has been in the US for QUITE SOME TIME. What we are witnessing is Tuskeegee Experiment 2.0.
I've said it all on the threads of Ebola on ATS until its a broken record...ITS BEEN HERE. This is a manmade thing, and it just didn't get to the states. Whatever they tell us they knew damn well its been here at least a year, and for scrupulous reasons they are now "covering all bases" having outbreaks in "odd places" across North America. Think Of timing versus release of information! Look back at the history of AIDS. AIDS was first shown in the Vietnam war. Look at Agent Orange syndrome symptoms and look at 1970s AIDS symptoms. Do some research on it. Strain Type #1 AIDS was killing white boys as early as 1978 (after contagion was spread through Hepatitis B shots in NYC and San Francisco). Two places on opposite ends of the spectrum, but notorious for having a PROTESTING AND DEMANDING OF RIGHTS CULTURE from the turbulent 60s and early 1970s. White gay guys were dropping DEAD in 1978 and NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT IT. Nothing WAS SAID ABOUT IT. Doctors were begging, I mean BEGGING the media to cover it and it was gag orders from the top starting with the Reagen Administration (remember, AIDS hit as Carter was on his way out and probably didn't even get a handle on it). 1981 was the first year it was in the press as a "possible" epidemic, and that was still the SMALL PRESS. How many died between 1979-1981? Thousands. How many were exposed and infected? Tens of thousands. What we have is a combination of intentional infection and exposure from parties unknown, dishonesty from our government, corporations, and news outlets to provoke fear and panic so they can declare marshall law, or some other restrictive repressive bullshyt. It also is a nice cannon fodder cocktail to kill off some radical freedom fighting people that will CHALLENGE government rule against personal liberties too, or just bump off a race of people because of Eugenics. For all we know, Ebola may become for Mexicans what AIDS became for Black Americans after somebody in the lab tinkers with it and alters it to attack certain genes only inherent with their racial background.

As this thing unfolds daily, Ebola is looking EXACTLY like the AIDS Pandemic to me. People's heads are in the wrong bag about this. People are going on and on about "countries not giving Africa help" but face facts - Fact #1 - AFRICA HAS BEEN THE TESTING GROUND FOR THESE AGENTS SINCE DAY ONE. Fact #2 - America has a history of biological warfare on its own people and medical apartheid has been alive and well since slavery. Fact #3 - Like AIDS, Ebola has been specifically created and manipulated (the US holds ALL PATENTS on the strain now, don't they? I see they learned from AIDS since France cracked the disease and had a cure which the US sued them in international court and to this day has prohibited worldwide distribution of it). Think back to AIDS a minute, the early years. In the beginning the white gay boys exclusively got it; how many times was it just called a cancer? How many times did Reagen's administration shut down any and all help to them because it was just a gay illness? Then slowly after 1985 or so it started creeping up in black communities through and via the crack epidemic years. Now you tell me how did a disease that made people drop dead instantly within 3-6 months of exposure now have stages? There are people living with it for 20 years now. There is still misinformation on the tie-in to HIV, which has been proven to be an illness by itself; people can get it and not get AIDS and vice versa. But we the people 35 years later still don't have a good public grasp of the thing, and for newer generations its in the back of their mind as unimportant. Think of how AIDS went out there and was mutated (which no one discusses) and the conspiracies and proven documentation from various countries of PROVEN FACTS around it, including government conspiracies against the US. Now replace the word AIDS in the aforementioned with Ebola.

Like with AIDS TPTB front a great digital propaganda machine they can incite fear into the masses and discriminate against people with a single lie. Cue: Mass Media promoting "Contagion", "The Strain". The conditioning to accept this thing has been out there for ages. The Strain and Contagion of recent have been adding fuel to the paranoid fire. The Strain concludes next week - imagine that! Outbreak comes to mind as well, but that was a 90s Dustin Hoffman tour de force so most people didn't take "are you trying to seduce me mrs. robinson" to heart. The timing of the Strain is incredible though, you have to admit. People are getting conditioned into this, you see.

And just like my father claims that they used Vietnam to test the first strains of AIDS on them through mandatory inoculations, we may have that as well with Ebola since all of a sudden all these outbreaks are occurring. Let's see some data on how many of these people have gotten flu shots or other inoculations since Sept. 1st.

I cant stress this point enough ATS: If people think this just "happened", they need to check the Tuskeegee Experiment, and look at the protocols and origins behind the AIDS in the 1960s first. See Big Pharma comes under pressure as AZT kills Leukimia kids. Not jump 20 years later and said drug is being used as a "treatment" for this new outbreak illness, with the same symptoms and subsequent death as before some 20 years earlier? (AZT kills your bone marrow, making you suspectible to all viruses, and ultimately breaks your body down for defense and kills you). Look, research, and study WHY the US government goes over to Africa and drops shyt like this on people of color FIRST! It's the melanin factor - do research. Then it gets spread it out to the rest once its been perfected. (AIDS is an anomaly, the white gay guys getting it was really to kill their movement and eradicate their protesting in public but that is another story and France proved the strain they got was genetically different than the ones black people were infected with).

Wash rinse and repeat people. Remember the alleged Patient Zero AIDS guy. He was flying all over the place too right???? What one poor unsuspecting man who dies before he can be questioned on his "activities" can do.



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