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Next Level BS #9: UK Anti-Extremist Crack Down, Islamic Atrocities, and the FBI is Sad.

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posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 06:35 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
United we must defeat these Tory bastards at the ballot box, and vote out their vile, tyrannical influence. When we do, we will feast around a shared table of joy.


During the last Labour governements they tried to label home educators as potential child abusers, and instigated the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, while taking the country into conflicts on the pretence of a lie so who's vile tyrannical influence should we be supporting?

I don't think there is a table of joy.




posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 06:40 AM
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a reply to: neformore

A fair point to be sure, and lets be clear, the Labour mob are a bunch of liars and bastards. But the issue here is that we cannot sit back and allow our country to be run by people who want to remove all dissent, and rule without opposition. That is not what our nation is supposed to be about, and people who display such disregard for the rights and liberty of the people of this nation, have no business LIVING in it, let alone running the place.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 06:46 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit


Their agenda therefore, is deeply suspect, and I believe
it goes deeper than a shout of "look at me!! I'm being a bad, bad boy!".

them roots go back away ,
sounds like fundies on all sides...

Oh the humanity/insanity !



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: theNLBS

Aah, Theresa May (allegedly) and David Cameron! Two faces I'd never tire of cheese-gratering.
Ok, well that's reason number eight billion and seventy two not to vote for the Tories again, should we need any more reasons.
I haven't watched your show since the first one (which was a wee bit shouty) but this one was really good, very different to the first one -much, much better.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord
So tell us then how long ago did your family leave Scotland?



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: southbeach

It's a big, "family," one of the more populous Scottish names. Our branch left in the late 1800's, and settled in Pennsylvania… eventually making it's way to central/western NY.




originally posted by: gentledissident
Who comes up with the topics? They seem both rare and important.

It's a collaborative process. We use an online tool called Trello to organize ideas for each show. Sometimes a new idea happens spontaneously, like the ISiS/Saudi switch in this show… it sprung out of us saying, during script planning, "hey, ISIS isn't a whole lot worse than Saudi Arabia." Really?, we thought. After looking a bit closer, and confirming each point against Saudi Arabia, even the killing of children, we ran with it.


JAK

posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 10:30 AM
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Timing: Conservatives 'would curb human rights rulings' from Europe


The Conservatives say plans to stop British laws being overruled by human rights rulings from Strasbourg are "viable and legal".

Justice Secretary Chris Grayling said if the Tories won the election, a new Bill of Rights would give UK courts and Parliament the "final say".

There should be no "legal blank cheque to take human rights into areas where they have never applied", he said.

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The Conservatives have pledged for a decade to scrap the 1998 Human Rights Act, introduced under the Labour government, which incorporates the European Convention on Human Rights into British law.

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Recent ECHR rulings include:

2010: Upholding a complaint against British anti-terror law allowing police to stop and search people without firm grounds for suspicion



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: JAK

Seems the Tories are just kicking Operation: Total Bastards, into overdrive right now!

It's also worth mentioning that Chris Grayling has made some hilarious errors in his statements about the ECHR. For example, the idea that the European Court of Human Rights prevents British courts from imposing life sentences is simply not true. This is just one of a selection of what the previous Attorney General, fired during the last cabinet re-shuffle, called "howlers" to be found in the statement which was made supporting this move.

I honestly do not know whether to laugh, cry, or punch myself in the face until I can believe that I am no longer in Britain.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
I honestly do not know whether to laugh, cry, or punch myself in the face until I can believe that I am no longer in Britain.

Seriously. What's going on over there? Just when I think things can't get any more depressingly messed up with US politics and the current administration -- I look at UK news, and oddly don't feel as bad any more.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 05:06 PM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

I have no idea what the hell is going on any more Sir. None.

To be honest, I feel like I fell down the rabbit hole, and found a dog sized spider in the first toilet cubicle I bumped into down there. I mean, do not get me wrong, the Conservatives have always had a habit for making things difficult for people who want to have access to their rights, but this is just some other level of insanity. It's as if they are simply trying to loose the next election, because I cannot see for the life of me, how they expect to get a majority with this attitude.

Between their Orwellian nightmare realm policies on policing strategies and the definition of extremism, and this idiocy over human rights, I fail to see how they expect to get anything out of the next election but the biggest slap that has ever been received. To be honest, I think a breeze block to the face for each and every one would be a good idea. It might wake them up out of their strange, dazed, and utterly moronic rhetoric, and place them in a more sensible state of mind, that being fear of the people.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: theNLBS
Damn, I was hoping to find out that you were just being sensational about the whole "Extremist Disruption Orders" thing

Sorry to you all living in the UK, hope you get that fixed before it ruins some lives.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: TKDRL

Funny you should say that.

These things are a proposal that will have to be consulted on, shown to have taken on board comments from an awful lot of civil rights groups and other bodies, ratified by parliament, then the House of Lords and then through European Law as well.

They are by no means a done deal.

That doesn't mean someone won't try and make them happen, but it also doesn't mean that they will happen.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 06:41 PM
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a reply to: neformore
Great news then. I hope it is stopped in it's tracks!



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: neformore

Yes. But it's startling that any politician in a democratic nation would propose such madness… especially as a reelection platform.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Wouldn't disagree with you there S.O.

We live in crazy crazy times.

Much like the US, British politics needs a revamp, because right now, none of the parties seem to be electable.
edit on 3/10/14 by neformore because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 5 2014 @ 11:12 AM
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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Wouldn't disagree with you there S.O.

We live in crazy crazy times.

Much like the US, British politics needs a revamp, because right now, none of the parties seem to be electable.


Couldn't have put it better myself.

Right about now, both of our countries are beginning to look like complete and utter jokes.



posted on Oct, 5 2014 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: neformore
a reply to: SkepticOverlord



Much like the US, British politics needs a revamp, because right now, none of the parties seem to be electable.


Time to move to Iceland....



posted on Oct, 5 2014 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Politicians are ultimately the most dangerous "extremists". Almost universally applicable to any large western democracies. On the left or right? Conservative or liberal?

Whichever party can acquire dominant power will almost immediately use their law and policy making powers to drag a nation and people as far to their extreme as possible.

It's the stuff that leads to the fall of great nations and empires eventually.




posted on Oct, 5 2014 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: zazzafrazz

I doubt the Icelanders would have us.



posted on Oct, 5 2014 @ 01:44 PM
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a reply to: JAK
One must realise where the conservatives are coming from. The UK, no matter what anybody thinks , can only survive in the EEC. Now it just so happens that the majority of governments in the EEC are based on a socialist system and the conservatives and ukip(who are really hyper conservatives) really hate being told to be more socialist ie. treat your people with a bit more respect and fairness. A reply to Skeptic Overlord. It is taken as read in the UK that the conservatives believe truly that they were born to rule. Since they were born they have been schooled to believe it, their parents drum it into them that they are far superior to the normal citizens. So when it comes to governance they look after their own and do just what they want. They cannot see what their policies are doing because they don't have the slightest idea how ordinary people live. As for proof of this one only has to look at their living behaviour. The ordinary UK citizen is really starting to suffer yet they isolate themselves on their estates, going on multiple holidays and flaunting their wealth at every opportunity. As TrueBrit says it truly makes one sick to the stomach.




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