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Still Think the World is Waking up to the Conspiracy?

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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:56 AM
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originally posted by: Another_Nut
a reply to: cardinalfan0596




. SEVENTEEN steel framed floors of the Windsor Tower, failed and collapsed....from FIRE alone.


yet the building stood

and didnt collapse into a pile no higher than twenty feet

imagine that....

now u can repeat the "it was different because of (insert excuse here)" line as always when presented with precedence.


Yes exactly. The Windsor building did not collapse even though most of it was on fire. Unlike small fires in the towers! Sheesh! The towers were Demolished!

To demolish a high rise building they take out the basements first. Guess what happened to the basements on WTC 1, 2 and 7? BOOM! And that is confirmed by the First Responders and Fire Fighters that were blasted by the explosions in the basements of all 3 towers.

They know! They were there!




posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 02:04 AM
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originally posted by: Tedgoat

originally posted by: Another_Nut
a reply to: cardinalfan0596




. SEVENTEEN steel framed floors of the Windsor Tower, failed and collapsed....from FIRE alone.


yet the building stood

and didnt collapse into a pile no higher than twenty feet

imagine that....

now u can repeat the "it was different because of (insert excuse here)" line as always when presented with precedence.


Yes exactly. The Windsor building did not collapse even though most of it was on fire. Unlike small fires in the towers! Sheesh! The towers were Demolished!

To demolish a high rise building they take out the basements first. Guess what happened to the basements on WTC 1, 2 and 7? BOOM! And that is confirmed by the First Responders and Fire Fighters that were blasted by the explosions in the basements of all 3 towers.

They know! They were there!



id like to agree but i think any explosions , radioactivity, planes , fire and all other conventional explanations are just an excuse to hide and obfuscate the truth

again the good Dr expalains (skip to 40 min or so when she gets into my favorite parts)

also see the 911surfer


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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: Another_Nut

And, you missed the part of the post where it was stated that the engineers credited the massive concrete transfer slab on the 17th floor of the Madrid Windsor Tower with PREVENTING THE FULL COLLAPSE of the building. A feature that the Towers did not have.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: Tedgoat

Yes...they know...they were there....and they are the first ones to tell you that there were no bombs involved. And, like Nut, you missed the part about what the engineers said prevented the Madrid Windsor Tower from collapsing.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: Another_Nut

Twenty feet high? You must use one of those magic Yahoo rulers if you think the pile was only 20 feet high.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:53 PM
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a reply to: cardinalfan0596

In order for u to keep your world view we will say 35 feet that better?

That was the average

But in some places u could walk into the lobby

Have u even looked at the pics on 911?

And most of the pile didn't reach the top of the lobby



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 06:57 PM
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a reply to: Another_Nut



again the good Dr expalains (skip to 40 min or so when she gets into my favorite parts)

Dr JW is a nut job.
She is another who has no job and relies on her website and conferences for income.

I have no problem with the concept of turning matter to dust.
But consider the amount of power (likely electricity) needed to break apart one of the towers.
Since the towers came apart from the top down, the weapon must have been above the towers.
Did you see any extension cord running up to some mystery weapon?
Did the lights of NYC brown out for the 10 seconds needed?

She is a huxter just like RG. All speculation and never explains how it was done.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 07:32 PM
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a reply to: Another_Nut

You are looking at a different World Trade Center. I see plenty of pics where the debris pile is almost ten stories high.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: Another_Nut

I came across a little of Dr Judy's work a while ago and was not impressed. Her presentation in that video you linked was a lot better and she does make some very good points. The part about dustification, amazing. What kind of force can turn massive steal beams in dust in a matter of seconds? How half a car could be fully oxidized with the other half untouched in a field of unburnt papers does leave a big WTF.

The case for thermite is very solid, with some unburnt chips found in the dust and some of the cuts found on some of the beams it is clearly a part of the destruction. As for what turned the building into dust with most of it just blowing away in the wind before even hitting the ground, I do not know. I do know that I have never seen planes do that.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 08:08 PM
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a reply to: samkent

attack the evidence .not the person. and the fact she makes money off her research is nothing new in science or history or really any other subject but when it comes to 9/11 it seems if u write a book that doesnt support the os u are automatically a huxter .and thats wrong. how else do you get information out?

being published used to be a badge of honor. and showed u knew your stuff. well it still does.the odds of being published or how to get your book publised in 6 (painful) steps

and there was a hurricane off the coast of on 911 that was colliding with a front from the west

massive energy there


I have no problem with the concept of turning matter to dust.
But consider the amount of power (likely electricity) needed to break apart one of the towers.
Since the towers came apart from the top down, the weapon must have been above the towers.


u dont need electricity just power (energy) and a way to gather it and direct it

check out the direction that hurricane turned after the towers fell...

And I would say they came apart from the inside out..allowing collapse
aka the core was weakened by dustification




All speculation and never explains how it was done.

its evidence. and just because you cant show the gun doesnt mean u cant prove the gunshot

a reply to: cardinalfan0596

yes you are

you are another case of

"i deny reality and insert my own"

i cant help with that

But I can prove u wrong here and thats about twenty feet or two stories but ill be generous and say 30.

wheres your evidenceof a 60 foot high pile? got any pics to prove it?

a reply to: kwakakev

do u know what u get when u turn aluminum cladding and iron beams to dust?

the precursors to thermite! or thermite itsself


The aluminium reduces the oxide of another metal, most commonly iron oxide, because aluminium forms stronger bonds with oxygen than iron:

Fe2O3 + 2 Al → 2 Fe + Al2O3
The products are aluminium oxide, free elemental iron,[2] and a large amount of heat. The reactants are commonly powdered and mixed with a binder to keep the material solid and prevent separation.


from the first sentence in wiki thermite here
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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: kwakakev
What kind of force can turn massive steal beams in dust in a matter of seconds?


How about providing some evidence a beam was turned to dust first....


How half a car could be fully oxidized with the other half untouched in a field of unburnt papers does leave a big WTF.


Ever thought the papers blew in afterwards?


The case for thermite is very solid, with some unburnt chips found in the dust


No, thermite was not found in the dust.


and some of the cuts found on some of the beams it is clearly a part of the destruction.


Wrong again, that was made during cleanup....


As for what turned the building into dust with most of it just blowing away in the wind before even hitting the ground,


That never happened. This is what occurs when you get your "information" from truther sites, they are full of lies.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 08:12 PM
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originally posted by: Another_Nut
check out the direction that hurricane turned after the towers fell...


So you think a hurricane blew the towers down....



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: hellobruce

it huffed and it puffed and it BLEW the os down

ahh oser logic

care to quote where i said that?(that the hurricane blew the towers down)

or is this just more made up nonsense ?

nonsense . got ya

i said the power of colliding fronts is immense

a reply to: hellobruce

all the evidence of dustification (including beams truning to dust can be found here

or in the vid linked above . start at 40 min

or continue to deny reality

ETA for all those who buy the os

HOW did the 911 surfer survive if the floors were pancaking?

his story was first brought to my attention here by genradek

its an amazing story and totally debunks the os and most "truther" claims

and is absolutely in line with the good Dr's hypothesis
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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: hellobruce



How about providing some evidence a beam was turned to dust first....


So I take it you have not watch the video I was talking about, or even saw the massive dust cloud that day.



That never happened. This is what occurs when you get your "information" from truther sites, they are full of lies.


It's ok, this situation has messed up a lot of people.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 09:14 PM
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originally posted by: kwakakev
So I take it you have not watch the video I was talking about,


That video simply shows a aerial that is covered in dust falling down as the building collapses, leaving the dust behind. The claim it turned to dust has been debunked here many times before.

Judy Wood also believes in the "no plane hit the WTC" theory....



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:03 PM
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a reply to: hellobruce



Judy Wood also believes in the "no plane hit the WTC" theory....

AKA Nut Job.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: samkent

what ? do i see more personal attacks?

if shes so nuts why dont u attack her evidence?

i sense desperation

and dont u mean Another_Nut?


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posted on Oct, 14 2014 @ 02:43 AM
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a reply to: Another_Nut

Ignore them! They blast what you are saying but don't look at the evidence. They are just here to make you say something you shouldn't and wind you up.

If people had half a brain they would know 9/11 was an Inside Job. Because it is so obvious. Unfortunately some people do not use their brains and or common sense when it comes to this subject. They are easily swayed to believe in BS.



posted on Oct, 14 2014 @ 02:53 AM
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a reply to: Tedgoat

People are exactly as ignorant as the government wants them to be. Mainstream American society is a self policing self maintaining slave labor force. Any who step out of line are cut off primarily by their peers. The government only has to step in for the must blatant offenders.

It's not just 9/11. It's the entire system. We finally have the technology and knowledge for utopia but the status quo returns supreme. We all know who benefits from the status quo. Well, some of us do



posted on Oct, 14 2014 @ 03:42 AM
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originally posted by: Tedgoat
They are easily swayed to believe in BS.


Exactly like truthers and thermite, or silent explosives, or mini nuclear weapons, or beam weapons or cruise missiles, etc. etc.



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