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posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 12:31 AM
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against outright voter fraud like this...

Republican Candidate for A-G of Arkansas Kicked Off Voter Rolls For Registering in Multiple States



As of Tuesday, the Republican candidate for Attorney-General in Arkansas is no longer a registered Arkansas voter....
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According to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette Pulaski County Clerk, Larry Crane learned of Rutledge’s multiple registrations last week. He decided to remove Gov. Huckabee’s former legal aid, from Arkansas voting rolls when he confirmed she registered in multiple places after she registered in Pulaski County in 2008.


Can you believe that? The REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE for ATTORNEY GENERAL in Arkansas, the highest legal officer in the State, registered to vote in Arkansas in 2008 and then LATER registered to vote in Washington D.C. and (possibly) Virgina.

Like I said before, there oughta be a law against that.

What? Oh. My bad. There is:


Attorney and Liberal Blogger, Matt Campbell, refers to Article 19, section 3, of the Arkansas Constitution. “No persons shall be elected to, or appointed to fill a vacancy in, any office who does not possess the qualifications of an elector.” He goes on to say “the qualifications of an elector” are defined in Article 3, section 1, and they include that the person must be “Lawfully registered to vote in the election. Which means, of course, that, if you aren’t lawfully registered to vote in the election, you cannot run for office in that election.


Gosh, oh my, oh gee. How are Republicans going to get any traction against in-person voting fraud (of which there is, essentially, zero incidence of, anywhere in the country) so that they can suppress the non-Republican vote if they keep getting caught defrauding the voting process themselves?

Like I said, there oughta be a law.

Oh yeah, there is.



First, candidates must file an affidavit of eligibility at or before noon on the filing deadline. When Rutledge signed her eligibility affidavit she said she is eligible to hold the office of Attorney-General, when she was not. That opens her up to the misdemeanor criminal charge of false swearing. It’s also a Class D felony for someone to “vote in any election in the state unless the person is a qualified elector in this state and has registered to vote in the manner provided by law.” Moreover, anyone convicted of a voting related felony “shall be barred from holding public office or employment in any of the department of the state from the date of his or her conviction.”


I guess, like she says, it can't possibly be her fault that she registered to vote in at least two, possibly three, jurisdictions; it must be the Democrats that MADE her do it. Did they make her vote in multiple jurisdictions too? I wonder.

It makes you think, doesn't it? Is the Republican focus on NON-EXISTENT in-person voting fraud just a distraction from their own agenda to undermine the democratic election process through their own intentional and organized ACTUAL fraud? Is that the only way they can see to win an election; through fraud and deceit? Are they so bereft of ideas that they have abandoned any pretense of contesting the issues at stake?




posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 01:19 AM
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a reply to: rnaa

Corruption is just so rampant in America. Everyone should read "Corruption in America: From Benjamin Franklin's Snuff Box to Citizens United" by Zephyr Teachout or listen to her speak.

thedailyshow.cc.com...

As a relative unknown she nearly unseated incumbent Andrew Cuomo who is himself a corrupt politician.

www.vox.com...

She nearly beat him in this years gubernatorial primary but sadly lost. It's very very hard to fight the entrenched corrupt minions of TPTB.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 01:28 AM
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originally posted by: rnaa
It makes you think, doesn't it? Is the Republican focus on NON-EXISTENT in-person voting fraud just a distraction from their own agenda to undermine the democratic election process through their own intentional and organized ACTUAL fraud? Is that the only way they can see to win an election; through fraud and deceit? Are they so bereft of ideas that they have abandoned any pretense of contesting the issues at stake?

You act like Democrats don't do this...



A recent scandal involving Connecticut state Rep. Christina Ayala, however, suggests the infatuation some have with manipulating the electoral system extends beyond the abstract. According to reports, state prosecutors secured an arrest warrant against Ayala after the Elections Enforcement Commission initiated the process nearly a year ago. The EEC also reportedly sought charges against Ayala’s mother, Santa, for allegedly assisting her daughter in illegal activity. As of the latest reports available, legal action against the elder Ayala is still pending. Among the 19 counts pending against the representative are three separate felony charges: fraudulent voting, primary or enrollment violation, and tampering or fabricating physical evidence.

Connecticut Democrat Charged with 19 Counts - 3 Felonies

But they do. So much for that 'non-existent' fraud from the Democrat side huh?



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 01:30 AM
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Seems to mainly be politicians involved in voter fraud..

nhregister.com

State Rep. Christina “Tita” Ayala, D-Bridgeport, was arrested Friday on 19 voting fraud charges.


It is disgraceful.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 06:44 AM
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You act like Democrats don't do this...

But they do. So much for that 'non-existent' fraud from the Democrat side huh?
a reply to: Ameilia

I see your point, but you missed mine.

The Republicans are in a war against 'minority' voters. In every state, Republicans are pushing the ALEC agenda to disenfranchise voters of color. In States where they have control of the Legislature and Governor they are passing laws written by ALEC in order to suppress the votes of those groups of people they think are more likely to vote against them.

My point is this: the Republicans are trying to convince the public at large that there is a significant voter fraud problem, one that can only be cured by onerous voter ID laws. There is in fact NO significant voter fraud that can be cured by these ID laws. In person voter fraud is virtually non-existent. The problem is a fantasy promoted by people who have nothing to offer to the electorate, so they are trying to control the makeup of the electorate so they can control it instead of the other way around.

It isn't VOTERS that are committing election crimes, it is the POLITICIANS; and while Democrat politicians do indeed succumb to temptation, it is the Republicans that dominate the action (See the GOP fraud list here). Neither of the crimes mentioned in this thread, by the Republican Candidate or the Democratic Candidate would be detected by voter ID or by shortened voting hours.

In 2009, the Republicans were up in arms because a few ACORN workers violated the voter registration system. The ACORN organization itself reported those violations, worked with the election commissions to find those bad registrations, and modified their procedures to ensure it would never happen again. Never-the-less, the backlash was so severe that ACORN was forced to close its doors.

By contrast, the Republican Party's operative has done exactly the same thing as the ACORN operatives - EXACTLY, only the Republican Party has knowingly hired a dodgy operative who it knows has been involved in voter registration scandals for years. The Republican Party has paid this guy over 17 million dollars for his various forays into voter registration fraud.

Unlike ACORN, the Republican Party did not self-report the problem.

Unlike ACORN, the Republican Party is not working with authorities to determine the extent of the fraud.

Unlike ACORN, the Republican Party has not gone out of business.



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posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 07:29 AM
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You just proved that voter fraud exists and say it's not a problem. I'm confused.

Every citizen should have a photo i.d. In order to vote. You can't exercise your rights as an American if you are not willing to prove you are an american.
Democrats are fine with forcing people to buy insurance but balk at a $10 photo.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 07:41 AM
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Democrats are fine with forcing people to buy insurance but balk at a $10 photo.


Wish I could give you a thousand stars for that one.
This an obvious case of Pot vs Kettle



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 07:57 AM
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originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
You just proved that voter fraud exists and say it's not a problem. I'm confused.

Every citizen should have a photo i.d. In order to vote. You can't exercise your rights as an American if you are not willing to prove you are an american.
Democrats are fine with forcing people to buy insurance but balk at a $10 photo.


Democrats are fine with no photo ID for a Constitutional right like voting, but DEMAND a photo ID and background check for another Constitutional right like owning a firearm.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 02:40 PM
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Democrats are fine with no photo ID for a Constitutional right like voting, but DEMAND a photo ID and background check for another Constitutional right like owning a firearm.




For the actions of what someone else does.

That is a 'violation' of already preexisting laws !

LOL.

Thank You for pointing out that EPIC cognitive dissonance.
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posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 02:47 PM
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The two party system is a joke, yet some people will do anything to elect their beloved D's or R's.

IMHO It's time to think about Proportional Representation and giving power to more then two political parties!



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 03:47 PM
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All I'm going to say about this is that those who shout the loudest over non issues tend to be the biggest participants of the activity.

The National Black Caucus talks about racism, yet is an actual racial institution.
Priests that decry homosexuality later get revealed to partake in gay activities.
People that shout about a type of voter fraud that is very inefficient and statistically insignificant are the ones that commit it.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 04:50 PM
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This is a load of crap. There is no crime in being registered to vote in different areas. There is only a crime in voting in more than ONE area.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 02:54 AM
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This is a load of crap. There is no crime in being registered to vote in different areas. There is only a crime in voting in more than ONE area.


You should do a little research before making such generalizations. Each state makes their own registration requirements, to the extent that they don't violate Federal Law or the Constitution.

In particular see: Voter Registration Rules (State by State)

Here are three examples:


ALASKA

To register to vote in Alaska you must:

be a citizen of the United States
be at least 18 years old within 90 days of completing this registration
be a resident of Alaska
not be a convicted felon (unless unconditionally discharged)
not be registered to vote in another State

Voter registration deadline: 30 days before the election.

ARKANSAS

To register to vote in Arkansas you must:

be a citizen of the United States
live in Arkansas at the address indicated on your voter application
be at least 18 years old before the next election
not be a convicted felon (or have completely discharged your sentence or been pardoned)
not claim the right to vote in any other jurisdiction
not presently be adjudged mentally incompetent by a court of competent jurisdiction

Voter registration deadline: 30 days before the election.

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA (WASHINGTON DC)

To register in the District of Columbia you must:

be a citizen of the United States
be a District of Columbia resident at least 30 days preceding the next election
be 16 years old (to pre-register), or be 18 on or before the next election
not be in jail for a felony conviction
not have been found by a court to be legally incompetent to vote
not claim the right to vote anywhere outside D.C.

Voter registration deadline: 30 days before the election. You may also register to vote at the polls on Election Day.



Etc, etc.

The requirement to not be registered in another jurisdiction also applies in D.C., Florida, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky... You get the picture, there are lots of them. Check the link for all of them.

Now the fraud that I pointed out above was by the candidate for Attorney General of the State of Arkansas. Realize that the Attorney General is ultimately responsible for enforcing the election law in the State of Arkansas. That candidate was registered in both Arkansas and Washington D.C.. Both of those jurisdictions have laws that specify that in order to legally register to vote you may not be registered in any other jurisdiction.

Arkansas says that you must be legally registered to vote in Arkansas in order to run for office in Arkansas and REQUIRES A SWORN statement that you are so registered.

The candidate for Attorney General who, if elected, would be charged with enforcing the Arkansas Election Laws knowingly perjured herself on that sworn statement and defrauded the State and the People of Arkansas. Her very first official act as Attorney General candidate was a direct violation of the laws she would have to enforce if she were elected.

What kind of a start is that and what does it mean for any other law she would be required to enforce?



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