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posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 03:23 PM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
Adam made his baby steps where Euphrates and Tigris have their sources. Caucasus. Or nearby anyway. Ask a Hasidim who Adam was and what he looked like. He would most likely tell you that Adam was the first white Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Until about 6000 years ago the only white folks around were Neanderthals. Homo Sapiens as such was and is black.


Y-chromosomal Adam lived in Africa, not southwest Asia.


The Bible accounts for about 500 000 joining Moses, however, they used base-6 counting, so 10 means 6. 500 000 then becomes 300 000. And there's more, for they also seem to have counted ancestors, so let's say about 100 000 people with men and mice left Egypt during the annual flooding of the Nile which back then happened exactly during Passover, when accounting for axis mundi precession.


That is still a VERY large group of people to have traveling throughout the desert. Especially in those days.


Look at how ISIL has driven hundreds of thousands of Christians into the deserts during the last couple of months. Numbers are really irrelevant. They had plenty of gold and they conquered as they progressed. Not land, but water and lifestock.


That is a poor example. Those Christians aren't organized together in one large group. Also they have modern amenities helping them with resources (like modern food preservation techniques). Or at times supply drops from 1st world countries such as the United States. I'm sure they also have access to vehicles such as cars and trucks to transport themselves around the desert a bit quicker.

Water and livestock? Where would they find it? Other nomad tribes? Oases? Nomad tribes weren't NEARLY as big as even your low estimate of 100,000 people. Not to mention 100,000 people would quickly deplete any oases that they came across (and probably not fulfill the water requirement for the entire population).


Not that hard. You just need an open mind and know the language and culture. The texts in modern Christian bibles tells us God created Heaven and Earth. The Hebrew text simply says 'TPTB created the Zodiac and the Land'. But that didn't fit in with Church agenda.


Yes but science is hard to overcome with stories. If your ancient stories and text conflict with the laws of physics, then they likely didn't happen (at least as described). Once you start to doubt the entirety of a story, it becomes harder to discern the truth from the fiction. Then the more scientific inaccuracies that you discover in a story, the difficulty of finding the truth rises exponentially. You posted a quote earlier in the thread that history is just a collection of lies that everyone agrees on. So why would you believe ancient texts over the laws of physics?
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posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: Nechash

Also our solar system is obviously levelled and ordered by intelligent forces quite a few billion years ago. The chances of this solar system is a product of random luck is well, nonexistent in my mind. I don't know nearly enough about the physics and chance involved, but I have an eye for beauty and order, and this whole solar system is a bleeding joke. The guys up there is messing with our minds. Soon science will rediscover it's roots and notch up to explain spirituality and faster than light travel, warping space and basically, you and me could travel the entire known universe in a lifetime. Only when we'd come back, millions of years would have passed on Earth, while we would simply be a generation older. Space is a funny thing. Time is space itself.



posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
Adam made his baby steps where Euphrates and Tigris have their sources. Caucasus. Or nearby anyway. Ask a Hasidim who Adam was and what he looked like. He would most likely tell you that Adam was the first white Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Until about 6000 years ago the only white folks around were Neanderthals. Homo Sapiens as such was and is black.


Y-chromosomal Adam lived in Africa, not southwest Asia.


Again, I am not talking about the dawn of humanity as such, but the first white homo sapiens sapiens. Homo sapiens is about 300 000 years old, and they were the size of hobbits and dwarves back then. Adam and Eve is the story of the dawn of civilisation and the dawn of the white caucasians around 6000 years ago.



The Bible accounts for about 500 000 joining Moses, however, they used base-6 counting, so 10 means 6. 500 000 then becomes 300 000. And there's more, for they also seem to have counted ancestors, so let's say about 100 000 people with men and mice left Egypt during the annual flooding of the Nile which back then happened exactly during Passover, when accounting for axis mundi precession.


That is still a VERY large group of people to have traveling throughout the desert. Especially in those days.


Nah. It's actually quite common. More than a billion people live in similar conditions today. We don't call that a miracle. And a billion people is quite the bunch.



Look at how ISIL has driven hundreds of thousands of Christians into the deserts during the last couple of months. Numbers are really irrelevant. They had plenty of gold and they conquered as they progressed. Not land, but water and lifestock.


That is a poor example. Those Christians aren't organized together in one large group. Also they have modern amenities helping them with resources (like modern food preservation techniques). Or at times supply drops from 1st world countries such as the United States. I'm sure they also have access to vehicles such as cars and trucks to transport themselves around the desert a bit quicker.

Water and livestock? Where would they find it? Other nomad tribes? Oases? Nomad tribes weren't NEARLY as big as even your low estimate of 100,000 people. Not to mention 100,000 people would quickly deplete any oases that they came across (and probably not fulfill the water requirement for the entire population).


Not that hard. You just need an open mind and know the language and culture. The texts in modern Christian bibles tells us God created Heaven and Earth. The Hebrew text simply says 'TPTB created the Zodiac and the Land'. But that didn't fit in with Church agenda.


Take a field trip to the Sinai desert. It's not especially dry (desert doesn't mean Death Valley or Atacama) and certainly not very big (about half the size of Florida), and there's plenty of food and water to be found. And to top it, Sinai wasn't really a desrt back then, more like wilderness, which is the word the text actually use.


Yes but science is hard to overcome with stories. If your ancient stories and text conflict with the laws of physics, then they likely didn't happen (at least as described). Once you start to doubt the entirety of a story, it becomes harder to discern the truth from the fiction. Then the more scientific inaccuracies that you discover in a story, the difficulty of finding the truth rises exponentially. You posted a quote earlier in the thread that history is just a collection of lies that everyone agrees on. So why would you believe ancient texts over the laws of physics?


About 150 years ago people like you and brilliant scientists, claimed flying an airplane would conflict the laws of physics. Again, you are talking semantics. OK the Bible says Jesus walked on water. Did you know that the Sea of Galilee froze over during winter back then? Well it did. Besides Jesus was supposed to be a carpenter and by making a boat or a bridge, he could walk across the lake like a pro. Detach from Christian indoctrination (it's contagious), it has gotten to you. You can't keep refuting every letter of the Good Book, because most of it is true as the day. It's when you look at the incentives of the people using it for their own benefit that it becomes wrong. Evil even.
edit on 1-10-2014 by Utnapisjtim because: twarving quotes and across and misc

edit on 1-10-2014 by Utnapisjtim because: wilderness

edit on 1-10-2014 by Utnapisjtim because: half of florida



 
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