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What Putin has achieved till now

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posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Your bloody answers are totally absurd.........no further discussions warranted. Thank you !!




posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien




But there was a coup :

Ukraine’s Just Coup

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Well let's see now...

So because the president who was facing impeachment for being corrupt says it was a coupe, then it has to be a coupe...Amazing.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: victor7




Your bloody answers are totally absurd.........no further discussions warranted. Thank you !!


And you want to talk about absurd comments...



If there are separatists in certain areas where there are also civilians then there should be no shelling taking place.




Evil Ukes are bombing without warning using imprecise artillery and killing civilians. This is a total war crime.


What an interesting world you must live in..



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 02:53 PM
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on Kiev and Lviv


Putin has stopped it with the first Minsk peace plan. According to Russian fifth column, Putin "sold out" Novorossia when forced the Novorossia Army to stop the counter-attack...

It is unique how the "separatist terrorists" treat their POWs (except the nazi oligarch-sponsored so called battalions" Aidar, Azov, Dnepr 1-2, Donbass etc.). What they receive in exchange from nazi junta forces? Beheadings. Similar to Chechnya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria. Same "handwriting".


images of what appeared to be the severed heads of two civilians’ started circulating on social media today, identified by Russian news channel NTV as the heads of rebel hostages.

Shortly after, Kiev-based news network Pravilnoe TV reported that it had spoken with one of the mothers of the victims who confirmed her son was a rebel, captured during fighting in Donetsk.

She said she had received her son’s head in a wooden box in the post, blaming nationalist volunteers for her son’s death. Newsweek has not been able to verify the report independently.


Kiev Implicated In Ukraine Beheadings



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 03:18 PM
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Ukraine is Europe after the coup when the neonazi armed forces (Right Sector) ousted the democratically elected president who "was facing impeachment" (forever)...



Avakov with "Mustang"




posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 05:13 PM
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a reply to: tsurfer2000h

It was because it was unconstitutional.

And people were only given 3 Western puppet choices to choose as President...typical Western democracy, no matter what you choose you end up with a puppet.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: tsurfer2000h

It was because it was unconstitutional.

And people were only given 3 Western puppet choices to choose as President...typical Western democracy, no matter what you choose you end up with a puppet.


So better 3 Russian puppets? Oh wait only pro western people are puppets or nazis or whatever other foolish nonsense people use to obfuscate things. Better to be like Russia where you get rid of the opposition and anybody who runs is your personal puppet. Or better yet, send in the troops and have a vote with no debate or allowed opposition like in Crimea. Although it will be intersting to see how that type of goverment will do with and economy in free fall. Putin better be on his knees praying something happens to spike oil prices.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 05:33 PM
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Of course you`re for a US puppet who runs the show :

Wikileak Cables: Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in Washington's Pocket Since 2006

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edit on 3-10-2014 by BornAgainAlien because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 05:52 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: MrSpad

Of course you`re for a US puppet who runs the show :

Wikileak Cables: Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in Washington's Pocket Since 2006

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Our Ukraine was the name of his party. Naturally, American diplomats discuss the politics of the country they are stationed in with that country's politicians. That is their one of their functions. Poroshenko was probably saying similar things to the Russian diplomatic corps to elicit their support.



posted on Oct, 3 2014 @ 06:29 PM
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Putin has stopped it with the first Minsk peace plan. According to Russian fifth column, Putin "sold out" Novorossia when forced the Novorossia Army to stop the counter-attack...


Not sure that NAF has the ability to conduct an offensive warfare going all the way to Lviv or Kiev. However, it looks Kremlin ordered them to sign cease fire for even partial Donbass territory under them. NAF does not have complete Donbass at hand and they were made to sign the cease fire.

Recent fighting on Donetsk airport showed that to be the attacking party one needs atleast 2 to1 advantage in everything. Also, just a day ago, the army surplus stores that were supplying NAF with ammo etc. have been closed and it is even said that FSB is harassing the organizations that are pitching for NovoRossiya.

Is Putin going to leave it as a frozen conflict and have people barely scrape by with occasional artillery shelling and constant harassment by Junta's SBU and other right sector thugs? That would be stupid thing to do.

If NovoRossiya does not become a reality, the evil forces will spread on to play the same game on Russia i.e. try to destroy it.

Putin and his advisers are more wise than to let that happen.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 06:43 AM
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Ukraine is Europe after the coup when the neonazi armed forces (Right Sector) ousted the democratically elected president who "was facing impeachment" (forever)...


You do understand that Yanukovych was a corrupt president and that is what became his downfall...but of course it's easier to blame a small portion of the population than it is to blame the real problem.

And you may want to look into why Yanukovych was being impeached before blaming others for his downfall.

yanukovychleaks.org...



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 06:52 AM
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And people were only given 3 Western puppet choices to choose as President...typical Western democracy, no matter what you choose you end up with a puppet.


Oh really...



Another source...

america.aljazeera.com...

Good try, but you really need to do some research before making comments that are wrong.
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posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 07:00 AM
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Of course you`re for a US puppet who runs the show :


Just so you know Poroshenko was not the candidate that the west backed, but of course you already know that with all the research you have done.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 07:16 AM
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3 who did matter...

We all know how it works, the 3 you want it to go about you will talk about and have them show up in polls as most likely candidates. We have 11 parties over here, I know how it works of getting another Western puppet.

Poro was also puppet, nice try but fail again.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 07:36 AM
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3 who did matter...

We all know how it works, the 3 you want it to go about you will talk about and have them show up in polls as most likely candidates. We have 11 parties over here, I know how it works of getting another Western puppet.

Poro was also puppet, nice try but fail again.


Fail...aren't you the one who said there were only 3 candidates and did I not show you that you in fact were wrong so who is the one who failed?

So because of what happens in your country that is the way it works everywhere else in the world...gotcha!

And btw you were wrong and it seems you can't refute the evidence showing you were wrong...but then again that doesn't surprise me in the least bit.



posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 08:39 AM
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You seem to have no knowledge of the political process in other Western countries.

With polls and news suggesting between which candidates the race will be, most are always choosing which ones they think will be the best among the top candidates. That`s how elections get rigged in many so called democracies.

So the choice was actually between just a few and those were all Western puppets.

Maybe you can fool yourself as to there were actual honest elections, but not me.

The only thing you got is your own delusion about it being honest elections.
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posted on Oct, 4 2014 @ 09:22 AM
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So the choice was actually between just a few and those were all Western puppets.


And yet you were shown different, but the truth doesn't matter because...





The only thing you got is your own delusion about it being honest elections.


And you have the delusion of Russia being the innocent victim, when in reality it is because of the Russian gov't that these events unfolded in Ukraine.

Now show proof that the election was rigged and run by the west for just their candidates, because I guarantee you can't.



posted on Oct, 7 2014 @ 03:34 AM
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Putin lost Russian influence in Ukraine, thus losing his foothold into the European market.
Obama has rekindled Cold War and cocked up Middle Eastern geopolitics.

It is like the world is being run by von Ribbentrops.



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