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Supreme Court Allows Ohio Voter Fraud Prevention Law to Take Effect

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posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 05:12 PM
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The U.S. Supreme Court has reversed a lower court decision that attempted to bar some Ohio vote laws.

The higher court issued some kind of a stay.

The case is "HUSTED, OH SEC. OF STATE, ET AL. V. NAACP, ET AL."

Not sure what this means, and there is lots of controversy.

Supreme Court Allows Ohio Voter Fraud Prevention Law to Take Effect




On Monday, Breitbart News reported that the United States Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals effectively blocked new election integrity laws in Ohio designed to target voter fraud. On Tuesday, the United States Supreme Court effectively reversed that decision and allowed Ohio's new election integrity laws to take effect.

In this one page order, the Supreme Court stayed the decision of the lower court blocking Ohio's new election integrity laws. The order said:


[T]he district court’s September 4, 2014 order granting a preliminary injunction is stayed pending the timely filing and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari. Should the petition for a writ of certiorari be denied, this stay shall terminate automatically. In the event the petition for a writ of certiorari is granted, the stay shall terminate upon the sending down of the judgment of this Court.


Justices Breyer, Ginsburg, Sotomayor, and Kagan all would have denied the application for the stay.



Will this affect the upcoming elections in a couple of weeks?




posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

According to the news here in Ohio, it only pushed back voting by a week. I don't think that it's that big a deal myself and people are making much to do about nothing.



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 05:31 PM
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I never understood why they needed to pass a voter fraud prevention law. Statistically speaking, fraud is so rare that it's not even worth the time and money spent on the issue.



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 05:49 PM
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originally posted by: sheepslayer247
I never understood why they needed to pass a voter fraud prevention law. Statistically speaking, fraud is so rare that it's not even worth the time and money spent on the issue.


Do you have a link to support that statement? The thing about crime is that you don't know about what you don't catch. Why WOULDN'T you want to improve voter integrity?



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 05:51 PM
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a reply to: sheepslayer247

Try saying that in Chicago. My grandparents were very loyal republicans until the day they died. Ever since then for some reason they have voted democrat...



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Just a quick search will lead you to many stories and sources saying things like this:



Out of the 197 million votes cast for federal candidates between 2002 and 2005, only 40 voters were indicted for voter fraud, according to a Department of Justice study outlined during a 2006 Congressional hearing. Only 26 of those cases, or about .00000013 percent of the votes cast, resulted in convictions or guilty pleas.


Source



The thing about crime is that you don't know about what you don't catch.


How is a new law going to prevent voter fraud? If someone wants to rig the vote, they don't need to send "fake" voters to the polling places to cast votes. You find someone working the polls and get them to rig the vote.

The entire idea of rigging elections by using fake voters is completely ineffective and amateurish.



Why WOULDN'T you want to improve voter integrity?


Why would we want to pass more government restrictions on a right we have, when there really isn't a problem to begin with. I thought we were supposed to be all for smaller government?
edit on 9/30/2014 by sheepslayer247 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: sheepslayer247

Try saying that in Chicago. My grandparents were very loyal republicans until the day they died. Ever since then for some reason they have voted democrat...



Them, and at least 50,000 others too !!

Some even are voting 2 or 3 times a day now !!



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:01 PM
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About 1.8 million dead people listed as active voters



The report found that there are about 1.8 million dead people listed as active voters. Some 2.8 million people have active registrations in more than one state. And 12 million registrations have errors serious enough to make it unlikely that mailings based on them will reach voters.






posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:01 PM
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Since when does the Supreme Court take a case and make a ruling in a matter of days???



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Your source also said this, buddy.


Mr. Becker warned that poor record keeping at the registration stage is not evidence of fraud at polling places. “These bad records are not leading to fraud but could lead to the perception of fraud,” he said


It's not a fraud problem, it's a record-keeping problem.




posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:04 PM
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Dead people voting is a type of election fraud that occurs when the name of a deceased person remains on a state's official list of registered voters and a living person fraudulently casts a ballot in that name.




The extent to which this type of vote fraud occurs is not known


ballotpedia.org...



Liberals who oppose efforts to prevent voter fraud claim that there is no fraud — or at least not any that involves voting in person at the polls.




But New York City’s watchdog Department of Investigations has just provided the latest evidence of how easy it is to commit voter fraud that is almost undetectable. DOI undercover agents showed up at 63 polling places last fall and pretended to be voters who should have been turned away by election officials; the agents assumed the names of individuals who had died or moved out of town, or who were sitting in jail. In 61 instances, or 97 percent of the time, the testers were allowed to vote. Those who did vote cast only a write-in vote for a “John Test” so as to not affect the outcome of any contest. DOI published its findings two weeks ago in a searing 70-page report accusing the city’s Board of Elections of incompetence, waste, nepotism, and lax procedures.


www.nationalreview.com...


A new report by the Pew Center on the States finds that more than 1.8 million dead people are currently registered to vote. And 24 million registrations are either invalid or inaccurate.


www.npr.org...

www.politico.com...

But hey I guess all that rubbish about free, and fair elections is just lip service.



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: LDragonFire
Since when does the Supreme Court take a case and make a ruling in a matter of days???


It is not a ruling, it is a stay.



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:09 PM
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Remember this ?

townhall.com...

And the recent news:



CINCINNATI (CBS Cleveland/AP) — A former Ohio poll worker sentenced to five years in prison for voting illegally on behalf of other people has been released from prison after less than a year behind bars.


cleveland.cbslocal.com...



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: neo96

And she was "honored" .....

Woman Convicted of Voter Fraud Honored by Ohio Democrats




posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Let's be honest here. The Republicans is this case are completely wrong and hypocritical. Why is that?

Obamacare.

What does Obamacare have to do with voting rights? Nothing.

Except that the Republicans are against the ACA because it forces the people to purchase goods/services or you are taxed/fined.

Now they are saying that there needs to be a law that says you must purchase goods/services (government-issued ID) or you will not be able to vote (A RIGHT).

In both cases, you must do what the government tells you or there are consequences. In the case of the ID, they want you to conform or you lose a right.

Perhaps a bad example, but I find it fitting.



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:36 PM
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I know you're just quoting the article title but...that's a pretty garbage title for what this is.

Early voting in Ohio blocked (UPDATED)


The practical effect of the order will mean that, at the least, early voting will not be allowed this week — a period that supporters of early balloting have called “Golden Week.” That permits voters to register and cast their ballots on the same day.

Depending upon the timing of the state’s filing of a petition for review and the Court’s action on it, Monday’s order may also mean that early voting will not be permitted on most Sundays between now and election day, November 4, and will not be permitted during evening hours — that is, after 5 p.m.


It's about early voting, not about voter fraud.



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: xuenchen

Your source also said this, buddy.


Mr. Becker warned that poor record keeping at the registration stage is not evidence of fraud at polling places. “These bad records are not leading to fraud but could lead to the perception of fraud,” he said


It's not a fraud problem, it's a record-keeping problem.



And sloppy record keeping leads to trouble.....and fraud.

More Than 200 Dead People Shown to Have Voted in NY County Elections: Report



More than 6,000 dead people are registered to vote in Nassau County and records show about 270 of them actually voted after their deaths, according to a Newsday analysis of voter registration and federal death records.






posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: links234

They must be worried about early voting fraud.

Might be something to it.




posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen


Investigators tell the paper they don't consider the discrepancy fraudulent; the number of votes attributed to deceased voters is too small and their votes are spread out over more than two dozen elections.

County elections commissioner Bill Biamonte said simple clerical errors make it seem as if the dead are voting. For example, a person voting could accidentally sign their name next to a dead person's name rather than their own in a poll registry book.

"There’s no malice, no evil intentions behind this," said Biamonte."Just election day workers or voters making mistakes."


Sometimes I wonder if you read your sources before you post them.



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:50 PM
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Let's be honest here. The Republicans is this case are completely wrong and hypocritical. Why is that?


That' was rich see the next quote:




Obamacare.


Indeed what the eff does Obamacare have to do with the topic.

The quoted material has exactly nothing to do with it.

Er wait never mind dead people will prolly be enrolled on those healthcare 'exchanges' so they can get more government subisidies.



Except that the Republicans are against the ACA because it forces the people to purchase goods/services or you are taxed/fined.


Except the LEFT NEEDS TO STOP LYING.

Since this:



Medicaid in the United States is a social health care program for families and individuals with low income and resources. The Health Insurance Association of America describes Medicaid as a "government insurance program for persons of all ages whose income and resources are insufficient to pay for health care."


en.wikipedia.org...

People already had access to healthcare.




Now they are saying that there needs to be a law that says you must purchase goods/services (government-issued ID) or you will not be able to vote (A RIGHT).


What's the big deal there he ?

And I get carded every time I buy a gun.

Gun ownership is a CLEAR RIGHT.




edit on 30-9-2014 by neo96 because: (no reason given)




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