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CDC mobilizing: Dallas Hospital confirms First Positive Ebola Case in the US

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posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

Well all you can do at this point is to allow your Pilot family member to stay clear with the statistics and the known truths about this situation without fear mongering or adding to the already dire situation. Most people use the Elizabeth Kubler Ross method of dealing with this level of threat and situation. Denial is not an option here.

I know you feel like it is in your backyard right now, but you are not alone and soon it will be in everyone's back yard.

Have your family plan for bugging in if this gains momentum and always trust your gut.


WASH THOROUGHLY EVERYTHING you bring into your home. Canned goods, milk jugs, ect. Stear clear of the produce section or anything that could have been compromised with cough, sneeze or touch, that ship has sailed in your area.

Bleach. Stock up.
Gloves and mask for public places such as grocery store...




posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: Olivine

My take on the Hospital dropping the ball?

Just because a Nurse or moreover Intake worker has a basic education, that does not mean they have knowledge in Geography...

I think that by stating they were fresh from Liberia, it slipped under the wire. Had he said I just came from West Africa and was in contact with a pregnant woman who died of Ebola last week, things would have been shook up on the spot.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: Olivine

Everything about this backstory is complete baloney.

At least six people living in one apartment plus the victim.

Relatives living with their families in the same apartment complex.

He was turned away from the urgent care site the first time. (It wasn't transmitted to the entire team = there was a language barrier)

These are hallmarks of recent immigration to the US. Remaining within confines of known social groups within the country, small housing for large families, limited/accented language.

Also, earlier reports said his GF "sent" for him. That is a telling word to me. At first we knew nothing, then he was visiting family, then she recently "sent" for him to come to the US.

My guess is they are worried about an immigrant bring Ebola into the country at a time when "immigration reform" is a major talking point. How would that play out to know that a quasi-legal community brought the new plague into the States?

I know it is racist to even type these things on the screen, but somebody has to be a realist.



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posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: 200Plus
You present a valid viewpoint, IMHO



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: 200Plus

I think we have all thought the same or close to it. My gut told me right away that he had told his girlfriend, possibly now wife, that he came in contact and she helped him get here to the US for better healthcare. It is possible he did not inform her prior but it is doubtful after she continued to work in healthcare knowing he had been exposed and came from ground Zero in this pandemic.

The girlfriend should be in custody by all rights.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 09:10 AM
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Msm is now showing the same picture we broke here yesterday along with PZ name.

ATS community is an amazing representation of how the power of the internet can get information out first, and THAT will save lives.

If the WWWCollective remained ignorant, none of this would even be public yet and many more mistakes would have been made.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 09:16 AM
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One of those suddenly trapped in medical isolation behind the wrought-iron fence of the Ivy Apartments complex is the fiancee of the Liberian man who this week became the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola outside Africa. The woman, who was not identified, had spent an unknown amount of time with Thomas Eric Duncan, who arrived from Liberia for a visit on Sept. 20.

Stanley Gaye, president of the Liberian Community Assn. of Dallas-Fort Worth, said he talked with the woman, who was staying at home watching developments on the television news with her two children. Workers from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have been to her house several times, he said. They have advised her to take her temperature frequently and go quickly to the hospital if she develops a fever.


Really hope that last sentence is a misquote. What sense does it make to confine her to her apartment only UNTIL she develops symptoms, at which time she should go quickly to the hospital? What, drive herself there? Call an ambulance? How about if she develops symptoms, a HAZMAT team arrives and takes a blood sample to be tested, and if it's Ebola, they come back and suit HER up in a HAZMAT suit for transport to the ward. How about some freaking common sense already???

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posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: new_here


One of those suddenly trapped in medical isolation behind the wrought-iron fence of the Ivy Apartments complex is the fiancee of the Liberian man who this week became the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola outside Africa. The woman, who was not identified, had spent an unknown amount of time with Thomas Eric Duncan, who arrived from Liberia for a visit on Sept. 20.

Stanley Gaye, president of the Liberian Community Assn. of Dallas-Fort Worth, said he talked with the woman, who was staying at home watching developments on the television news with her two children. Workers from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have been to her house several times, he said. They have advised her to take her temperature frequently and go quickly to the hospital if she develops a fever.


Really hope that last sentence is a misquote. What sense does it make to confine her to her apartment only UNTIL she develops symptoms, at which time she should go quickly to the hospital? What, drive herself there? Call an ambulance? How about if she develops symptoms, a HAZMAT team arrives and takes a blood sample to be tested, and if it's Ebola, they come back and suit HER up in a HAZMAT suit for transport to the ward. How about some freaking common sense already???

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Agreed.

It's bothered me to see stuff of the sort: "not contagious until symptoms occur, so basically you shouldn't worry".

What if the symptoms occur when the person is in the middle of a crowd and sneezes...like in the middle of a flight?

And I sure as heck don't trust people to diagnose themselves, heck I don't trust some to properly take their own temp.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 09:24 AM
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fits thing, this dude probably knew or had an idea he was infected so he decided to come to the states to get care....whatever

to my point. i have been thinking about this all night.
i still dont think it is going to wipe out as many people as some say.

en.wikipedia.org...

The virus may be acquired upon contact with blood or bodily fluids of an infected animal

Human-to-human transmission can occur via direct contact with blood or bodily fluids from an infected person (including embalming of an infected dead person) or by contact with objects contaminated by the virus, particularly needles and syringes

Because dead bodies are still infectious, local traditional burial rituals may spread the disease. Nearly two thirds of cases of Ebola in Guinea during the 2014 outbreak are believed to be due to burial practices.
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it really does seem like ebola is not all that hard to avoid. at least in the states and in other countries. thats why i think people are freaking out.
pages back myself and others talked about how they dont burn their ebola victims and animals dig up the bodies and then it spreads some more.
look at the part i bolded....

that is not going to happen here or in other 1st world countries.

i know there is a confirmed case in texas and another suspected. i know he came in contact with up to 80 people and now they 'may' be infected.
that proves that numbers are going to grow and a lot of people are probably going to get sick....
that said i dont think it is going to be the global killer like some people think.

the states and other countries are better equipped to deal with it....not all people infected are going to die.....i know not all infected in africa die either but it is damn close.....
also in the states and other countries we dont really have to worry about animals digging up dead bodies of ebola victims....

my link says the majority of infections in guinea were caused by animals digging up the dead
thats not a worry here....not everyone infected is going to die...

Hospital-acquired transmission has occurred in African countries due to the reuse of needles and lack of universal precautions. Some health care centers caring for people with the disease do not have running water

something else that is not going to be much of a concern here compared to africa...we dont use contaminated needles in this country. i know accidents could happen. a contaminated needle might get used by mistake or their might be the accidental prick but as a rule, everyone gets a clean needle.

oh yeah, we have running water in this country too....

The virus has been shown to travel, without contact, from pigs to primates

phew....dodged a bullet on that one....see unlike africa, we dont have primates chilling out on the outskirts of town....

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i think people need to try not to get caught up in the doom porn panic. people are going to get sick and people are going to die. people are also going to get better and others are going to live.

it sounds to me like ebola can be avoided pretty easy in this country and others. in africa it might not be so easy.

do what you can to avoid it and you will be ok....



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 09:43 AM
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This is an excellent article to read. From BBC BBC NEWS - Ebola outbreak

It is saying that Ebola is spreading faster now. Estimating a rate of "5 people infected every hour"

It also goes on to say the cases are doubling every 20 days.



The scale of the disease is also "massively unreported" according to the charity, because "untold numbers of children are dying anonymously at home or in the streets".



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 09:45 AM
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originally posted by: criticalhit
We now live in a Nation of ultra radicals, women and homosexuals who believe in equal rights that bash families but support Isis


WOW! Have a problem with women much ? I understand the existence of controversy surrounding homosexuals and marriage, (but how that turns into ISIS..smh) But to group ultra radicals, women, and homosexuals in the same hate list...you definately got a problem with women, might want to get help for that.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: antar
a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

Bleach. Stock up.
Gloves and mask for public places such as grocery store...


Gloves and mask for a grocery store? Mother of god... Are you really going to do that?


originally posted by: RoyalBlue

originally posted by: criticalhit
We now live in a Nation of ultra radicals, women and homosexuals who believe in equal rights that bash families but support Isis


WOW! Have a problem with women much ? I understand the existence of controversy surrounding homosexuals and marriage, (but how that turns into ISIS..smh) But to group ultra radicals, women, and homosexuals in the same hate list...you definately got a problem with women, might want to get help for that.


He has more problems than that, the first of which is being unable to think clearly. Apparently he failed to realize that women are part of families as much as men. I guess he also thinks that 'homosexuals' support ISIS? Clearly this person is logical. So ignorant it's funny.
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posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 10:00 AM
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Assuming it doesn't mutate to a more easily spread form, which is what is terrifying the epidemiologists.



Anthony Banbury, the Secretary General’s Special Representative, said that aid workers are racing against time to bring the epidemic under control, in case the Ebola virus mutates and becomes even harder to deal with.

“The longer it moves around in human hosts in the virulent melting pot that is West Africa, the more chances increase that it could mutate,” he told the Telegraph. “It is a nightmare scenario [that it could become airborne], and unlikely, but it can’t be ruled out.”


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posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 10:00 AM
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a reply to: CardiffGiant

If you read back through previous posts, there is documented proof that this is much more contagious than you think. Just touching a symptomatic person can pass it on through their sweat. It stays infective on surfaces for days. If someone coughs or sneezes or sweat and the particles get to a person or surface, it can spread. This is not like aids. There is a reason people are isolated and wear protective gear.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: antar

Not defending, but if you had been exposed to this traveling, given all that you know about Ebola, wouldn't you want to get to the USA ASAP?

Maybe she advised him on how to control fever and symptoms, so he could get through screening?

With news that the USA has successfully treated Ebola cases, and for now virtually unrestricted travel, I'm surprised there isn't a flood of people coming in that have been exposed and are at risk of infection. Maybe there are more?

That said, I still believe this can be contained, controlled and even eradicated. Don't know what they're waiting for.

imo



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 10:05 AM
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This very well could be related to immigration reform and an effort to suppress information.

There are always so many conflicting stories initially but I know I read somewhere that Duncan had not seen his American wife for 15 years. Immediately, I wondered who the father of the children were and if this was a marriage of convenience. I can not find that information in the search engine any longer, however there is an article from a Liberian source that states the woman was, in fact his wife. How long they were married remains a mystery. For all we know, he could have been a mail order groom in need of medical care.

www.mytmzliberia.net...



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 10:05 AM
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Texas Says That Up to 100 Are at Risk of Ebola Exposure

The number just got bumped from 80 to 100, as reported by the NYT today.



DALLAS — Health officials in Texas said Thursday that they had reached out to as many as 100 people who may have had contact — either directly or indirectly — with a Liberian man sick with the Ebola virus while he was contagious.





Containing the spread of Ebola in Dallas now depends on the effectiveness of contact tracing, the federal disease centers’ core strategy. Having patient zero — the first one infected — in hand is a rare luxury in the word of contract tracing and should help ensure that the authorities cast a wide enough net to find anyone at risk.Ten C.D.C. members are in Texas assisting local officials. They include three senior scientists with expertise in public health investigations and infection control, a communications officer, five Epidemic Intelligence Service officers — the centers’ disease detectives — and a public health adviser

www.nytimes.com...



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 10:11 AM
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originally posted by: Nicorette
a reply to: CardiffGiant

Assuming it doesn't mutate to a more easily spread form, which is what is terrifying the epidemiologists.



Anthony Banbury, the Secretary General’s Special Representative, said that aid workers are racing against time to bring the epidemic under control, in case the Ebola virus mutates and becomes even harder to deal with.

“The longer it moves around in human hosts in the virulent melting pot that is West Africa, the more chances increase that it could mutate,” he told the Telegraph. “It is a nightmare scenario [that it could become airborne], and unlikely, but it can’t be ruled out.”


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^^this

It's all a game of probability. The more times the virus interacts with the human system the higher the chance that it will mutate into something more virulent (also likewise less virulent). It's only unlikely when the numbers of people infected with Ebola are low. The more people you have infected, the higher the chance it has to go airborne.

Best case scenario is that it mutates to lose most of its lethality and becomes less contagious. Worst case scenario is that it becomes more contagious with a lower mortality rate and goes airborne. The lower mortality rate would allow it to spread to more people.

Some of the deadliest viruses known to man (Spanish flu for example) had mortality rates around 20-30%, not above 50%. When the mortality rate is this high the chances of the disease burning itself out are also high.

One thing is for sure though. The genetic dice are rolling in every victim. What will probability produce?
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posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 10:14 AM
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a reply to: ausername

I have stated the same in past posts.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: windowpane

Yes and designate one pair of shoes to wear in public, spray them down outside with a light bleach solution and leave outside. Have throwaway carpet protectors for car and be cautious of anything you touch. I notice you did not quote me on the boat having sailed as far as fresh produce which could already be contaminated in Dallas grocery stores?

Yeah, common sense.



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