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CDC mobilizing: Dallas Hospital confirms First Positive Ebola Case in the US

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posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 10:13 PM
a reply to: ValentineWiggin

Also from your source:

at least three Dallas Fire and Rescue emergency medical technicians were being monitored and were in isolation at home, although they, as well as the other adults under observation, were free to leave their homes because they were not being quarantined. The medics helped transport Mr. Duncan to the hospital on Sunday. Even the emergency vehicle that was used — Ambulance No. 37 — is in isolation and not in service, officials said.

Sooo... the ambulance, which can be sanitized, is in isolation. The people, who cannot be rid of the virus by any known means, are free to leave their homes.

Anybody else having a problem with this besides me?

posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 10:17 PM
a reply to: fleabit
It's true that no one is privy to his plans, other than what journalists have written after interviewing his former employer. He could have had the tourist visa also. It's been said that his friends in the US contacted the CDC before the hospital reported the contagion, so he has a support system. Tonight, Erin Burnett tried to pin down someone from the CDC about the possibility of more people in infected countries seeking medical care in the US and elsewhere. The man wouldn't answer. Lots of questions here.

posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 10:34 PM
It won't be long, (48 hoursish) until we see:

-Complete closure of schools effected so they can be cleansed, whether ebola is present or not..
-Protests demanding the airlines cease travel to and from W Africa
-Animosity towards non-medical people traveling that route..People will find it selfish and dangerous...

While I am optimistic about there not being a full fledged epidemic in N America, I see that the social media is in a frenzy about this
It's getting crazy, not necessarily ebola but the panic that is ensuing because of it...

edit on 1-10-2014 by canucks555 because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 10:39 PM

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: MarkJS

It's not really as difficult as you think. They should stop all flights out of infected countries to ANY other country.
Only specific approved flights for relief efforts should be permitted out of the affected countries, and they should be strictly monitored and controlled.

Sorry... Sounds good, but fraught with holes in the logic. In that scenario, people would just have to first travel to a country that is allowing flights to other locations, then board there to go where-ever.

posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 11:29 PM

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Doodle19815

they are confident because the cure is here, see they got the vaccine, nothing to worry about, just waiting for the people outrage when the infection goes beyond Texas borders.

I am sure that the doses are ready to be shipped to every state in the nation, hell let get the littler children, pregnant women and the elderly first.

The despicable way in whish American corporate elite money, we are all expendable until the want to save us.

Because let face it, a none working economy doesn't produce anything, if we all infected, soo they will wait for the right moment to tells us we all going to be cure

But Marg... the cure is so expensive only 1% of us can afford it.
That has to tell you something about them helping us get broke first.

posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 11:53 PM
I have been reading people say here that the govt must be doing this via intent.

Sadly without name dropping, I have reason to be sure they are not.

The truth is we have become that incompetent, uneducated, ill informed and more than anything so ruined by a combination of Ideologies and belief systems, so unwavering of opinion based on belief and document, so tangled by over litigation and ruined by idealism...

We simply can not even remotely respond competently to a genuine crisis.

At best this time we are going to get lucky and honestly that has been the case for some time now, you see people come in here and think everything is a conspiracy and mostly that is because what goes on is so ludicrous it's the only way the mind can try to understand it, it has to be on purpose... but to the 99th percentile it just isn't the case, our society is just that twisted to a point it no longer resembles any natural possible order for a human society and honestly it's scary how fast it happened.

It's not very different from the condition of Islam another society on the globe that is utterly imploding due to a complete inability to adapt due to dogma, we are opposites but the same...

We have a constitution written apparently in Blood that even though we are in the period of greatest change humanity has ever faced we have people who will not be willing to adapt or change, a large portion of our society is religious fundamentalist even if they don't believe it themselves, our notion of Freedom has become retarded, everyone doing whatever they want with no regard to the nation of social outcomes, sex is a priority above raising children, the family system is broken, everyone practically is chemically imbalanced from a complete disregard of health and diet, the government is owned by corporations and the fabric of the system itself no longer works, education is not a priority to most of the people of this union, the legal system has wound itself up in red tape and worst of all we have all been stripped of our cultures in an attempt to make life fair, which is a ridiculous notion it simply isn't

Irregardless, we are in the same situation the Mayans were, inflexible, dogmatic to ideas without budging.

The first round of this stupidity was the war on terror, truth be told we are already lucky we are here, if the enemy involved wasn't even more ridiculous in it's priorities we wouldn't be... it's been luck, we wasted Trillions on what we call the defense of our "homeland" spying but we didn't harden our infra structure, ban flights from negative locations, or even actually go to war with the enemy, we are so lost on some ideal of freedom and fairness, we subjected our own people to terror, searches, invasions of privacy, massive tax spending not on anything that constitutes defense like having an electric grid an EMP strike wont bring down, but on endless killing of specific individuals because we wont engage an ideology like we did in WW2 and stamp it out because "people who want you dead or converted have as much right as the people in the nation your defending until they actually get a loose nuke"

And it's been luck, luck mainly that the one bomb or disease vial has eluded them this long, and only because they are even more retarded than we are.

How does this relate to Ebola....

We are so screwed up the word quarantine has no meaning. It is somehow more important to allow people from anywhere even a place with 90% communicable pandemic to go and come as they please because... we don;t actually know what "freedom" really is anymore and it certainly isn't the right for some Typhoid Mary of a prick from Liberia to hop on a plane anytime he wants to...

We now live in a Nation of ultra radicals, women and homosexuals who believe in equal rights that bash families but support Isis, a Nation that wont stop air traffic to a pandemic infested nation.... because "racism" our "Ideas" overtook "reality" a couple of decades ago and now we are fundamentalists in our own way and there is no way a culture can survive that because it's not rational thought.

Will Ebola do it? End us?

Maybe, they are lost even the CDC is acting moronic, there hasn't been one mention of what happens if this enters wildlife, it's a constant barrage of "you wont get it from touch contact" (which isn't even true) but the fact that the virus can live for nearly 2 months at winter temperatures isn't being mentioned either our CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL isn't even factoring in climate to the possibility of the models of contagion, it's like they are blind, this in our environment could easilly mimic the bubonic plague we have the right conditions for it...

again if this doesn't break out with a guy loose on a 4 day run it's only because the temperatures in Dallas are mimicking Africa right now, if this happens again in November-March or further North a lot of people are going to die...

The American belief in it's invulnerability and it's own Dogma mimics our current enemy Islam, no one thinks it can happen and they don;t even realize we are so messed up we've been riding on Luck for years already.... They worship an omnipotent god, we think we ARE an omnipotent God

But if they don't wise up fast... it's going to look like London during the Plague out there one way or another one day and there are a Myriad of reasons ranging from decrepit Nuclear power plants, an electric grid that's outdated, germ warfare, war, natural pathogen, collapse of the social and economic system from a variety of factors...

But watching how we are handling Ebola, for the first time i'm pretty sure it will sooner or later happen because our decision making is dogmatic and irrational.

We are handling things very poorly all emotion no logic

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 12:00 AM

originally posted by: mrsdudara
Paging Dr. Whatshisname

Speaking of all this, does anyone remember the name of that psycho Dr. who proposed spreading ebola to cure the world of overpopulation? I can't find it...

UT Professor of Absolute Global Genocide Eric Pianka.
He's gone now-- but his students giving the standing
ovation are beginning their rise to prominence and
political power. Parson Thomas Malthus was a lightweight
compared to some of these psychos.. and we're counting
on them to come up with the silver bullet. Ho- KAY.....

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 12:12 AM
a reply to: derfreebie

I remember reading about Pianka. I think maybe his speech was taken out of context. He used Ebola as an example of how an out of control population could be thinned by nature, not used as a means by man.

Overall, in Pianka’s speech he gave his vision of what could happen if steps were not taken to curb and reduce population growth. The scientist used the Ebola virus as an example of how a population could be reduced naturally and that is when conspiracy theorists attacked and misquoted his statements about Ebola and overpopulation.

I for one don't think that nature has exerted herself with this round of Ebola. I do think that a handful of interested parties have however.

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 12:27 AM
This confirmed case of Ebola in Dallas has now been added to the Ebola charts in the Ebola charts thread, starting from the day that he became symptomatic according to the CDC (Sept. 24, 2014). I also updated the charts with the newest data from the World Health Organization (WHO) published October 1, 2014 which included data through September 28, 2014.

Here is a link >>> Latest Ebola Charts

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 12:29 AM
a reply to: Witness2008

Nostradamus said that during this time we would be affected by what was described as the "Multi Plague"

It's kind of interesting that we are swamped with Entero Virus right now, as Ebola hits, during a time of antibiotic resistant bacteria being on the rise, while GMO foods which weaken the immune system are our diet....

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 12:33 AM
a reply to: ikonoklast

I have been following your chart page. Excellent work.

The next couple of months will be interesting.

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 12:37 AM
a reply to: criticalhit

I agree, It seems to me an intentional collusion. The perfect storm of power, greed and stupidity.

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 12:38 AM
a reply to: Witness2008

Since we seem to be tailing out the thread for the wee hours,
thanks for the rep. I also believe this could have been cooked
up to an optimum incubation period at Detrick, and set loose
until it just naturally grew a sleeve and could go full airborne.

As much as I hate the idea of Outbreak being an op-ed:
this whole cavalier hands-off attitude from containment pro-
tocols for a Level Four is mighty stinky. And I agree to wager
as much as you that a few very rich people are going to play
and dance later in a much more sparsely populated landscape.

I don't usually subscribe to doom porn... but when I do it's a
close and pretty good match to a previously filmed script.
Stay hydrated my friend.. even Michael Rennie got sloshed
once on a Bonanza installment.

edit on 2-10-2014 by derfreebie because: This is NOT Bread and Circuits anymore

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 12:48 AM
a reply to: thesmokingman

Found this map showing biohazards and other disasters occurring around the globe - take a look at all of the biohazards in the states! More than anywhere else. Some of them are probably these mysterious sicknesses in children in Ohio and the new case of the girl in Rhode Island.

Might be a useful source while this progresses...
Emergency and Disaster Information Service:
edit on 2-10-2014 by FamCore because: link I'm attaching got cut off the first time

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 12:53 AM
a reply to: topdog81

You're welcome. I probably have to fly to Texas in a few weeks. I'm glad to know that United made that info public, but I think I will be flying on another airline. Or depending on how this goes, if we see more cases spreading maybe I will cancel the trip.

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 12:57 AM

originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: ikonoklast

I have been following your chart page. Excellent work.

The next couple of months will be interesting.

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.

Yes, the next couple of months will be interesting - as in the old curse, 'May you live in interesting times.'

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 12:58 AM
a reply to: derfreebie

You could be right. Our military along with the bio industry and big pharma love cooking up new recipes.

Fort Detrick is just a kids sand box in comparison to this.....

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 01:38 AM
a reply to: criticalhit

You rolled a natural 20

Don't think I need to explain the reference...

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 02:08 AM
The virus could also spread by the use of lavatories of all the planes he flew on. All it take is for him to sneeze in there and someone else to touch it.

posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 02:55 AM
NBC news has released some new information that is extremely disconcerting:

Ebola Victim Thomas Eric Duncan's Nephew: I Had to Call CDC

The first person diagnosed with the Ebola virus in the U.S. wasn't appropriately treated for suspected infection until after a relative personally called the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention...

...Thomas Eric Duncan, 42, was initially sent home from Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas when he showed up on Sept. 26 complaining of fever and abdominal pain. He had to return two days later in an ambulance.

That was the day "I called CDC to get some actions taken, because I was concerned for his life and he wasn't getting the appropriate care," Duncan's nephew, Josephus Weeks, told NBC News on Wednesday night. "I feared other people might also get infected if he wasn't taken care of, and so I called them to ask them why is it a patient that might be suspected of this disease was not getting appropriate care?"

...Weeks said the CDC referred him to the Texas Department of Health and Human Services, which spoke to him and then took appropriate action. "I called the CDC and they instructed me of the process, and that got the ball rolling," Weeks said.

A CDC spokesman told NBC News the agency could neither confirm nor deny Weeks' account. The hospital did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


So first the hospital didn't pass on the information that he had been in Liberia to the doctors treating him the first time and he was sent home with antibiotics.

Then his nephew had to personally call the CDC and ask them why they wouldn't take proper care of someone believed to have Ebola.

But even that wasn't enough. Instead of the CDC taking initiative and immediate action, they instead put the responsibility on the nephew and told him that he should call the Texas Department of Health and Human Services.

Fortunately the nephew did all of this and kept calling and bugging people until an ambulance finally picked up his uncle and took him back to the hospital! If the nephew had not taken the initiative when the hospital and the CDC did not, things would be far worse!

But don't worry, the director of the CDC says he has no doubt they will be able to contain this. That seems pretty hard to believe considering how this has been handled so far.

I would like to believe that the CDC and hospitals in America are better prepared to contain and treat Ebola than medical facilities in west Africa. But if the nephew's story is true, it's mind boggling. Denial, incompetence, lack of initiative, irresponsibility, and overconfidence on the part of the CDC and medical professionals seem like an astoundingly bad way to approach this.

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