CDC mobilizing: Dallas Hospital confirms First Positive Ebola Case in the US

a reply to: K_OS

Thing is, if you have an 11-19 hour flight you may not show symptoms at the gate but can be in full blown fever within hours. Everyone who has come into contact with Patient Zero was and is a continued risk no matter how they down play this or people chose to be in denial of their exposure.

Came on to remind members from the discussion from yesterday what I had sensed about this guy hugging children, family and friends... now we have reports of someone in his circle being checked out for the virus...

NOW, WTH? So he has only been in the States for 10 days and his contactee's are already beginning to show symptoms? This tells me that he was far more sick upon his International Travels than he let on so that he could get back into the states for treatment rather than being shut out in a location less capable of handling his sickness.

If you are at the start of a fever you can take copious amounts of fever reducers, enough to drop your temp to a passable level. Face it, the TSA are not trained medical professionals.

So, back to the children who have been exposed, they went on to school, church, shopping, entertainment, transportation to name but a few of the public exposures.

*Bumping the thread, and where is Soficrow?*

a reply to: Doodle19815

Perhaps the death rate from Ebola is high because the Liberian population is unhealthy to begin with.
home.wfp.org...
Check out the third page of this PDF. It sums up the whole study.

a reply to: antar
This has worried me for a while. (Didn't Sawyer become symptomatic on a flight?) The long flights could turn a 777 into a petri dish of sorts.
I've been looking for Sofi, too!

a reply to: antar
If a Mod is reading, I vote to give Ebola its own forum or subforum? The information in the old posts are
extremely valuable.

a reply to: antar
Antar, sweetie, stop pushing the button!

Antar, geeeeez

OH NOES!!! Apologies!!!

I will kind of fix this unless a MOD can do it for me?

My comp went into a crazy thing, it froze, shut down and did a NTFS check...

OK, not sure who jumped in but thanks a million posts! That was wild, never had it happen before.

a reply to: drwill

I agree, submit the request and we will all back you on it. We could even delete an old one in its stead. This may or may not erupt into something so deadly and contagious it will make World War Z look like child's play.

Some of the headlines from Africa are just scary as heck, killing the medical workers in the most hideous ways because they think that the workers are spreading the disease, and they dont have the ability to do the damage other countries do especially the US with all the weapons on hand. People here will not go peacefully to be examined and if they quarantine entire cities or towns all hell will break out.

I realize I seem frantic and there is a part of me that does feel that way for the people who this will affect in violent and unpredictable ways.

Again so sorry for all of the repeat posts...

Edit to ADD: a reply to: antar
Don't worry about it. I alerted staff so they could remove the dupes. (I can't do it because I'm active in the thread.) END Edit.

originally posted by: antar
a reply to: K_OS
Thing is, if you have an 11-19 hour flight you may not show symptoms at the gate but can be in full blown fever within hours. Everyone who has come into contact with Patient Zero was and is a continued risk no matter how they down play this or people chose to be in denial of their exposure.

This Mr X in Dallas began showing symptoms some days after arrival. Butt yes, a person definitely could board a flight symptom free and only develop symptoms en route.

Came on to remind members from the discussion from yesterday what I had sensed about this guy hugging children, family and friends... now we have reports of someone in his circle being checked out for the virus...

NOW, WTH? So he has only been in the States for 10 days and his contactee's are already beginning to show symptoms? This tells me that he was far more sick upon his International Travels than he let on so that he could get back into the states for treatment rather than being shut out in a location less capable of handling his sickness.

The incubation period for Ebola is 2 to 21 days. So as he became symptomatic a week ago (meaning after his arrival in the US), some of his contacts in the US have already had enough time to become symptomatic as well. Even four or five days ago.

If you are at the start of a fever you can take copious amounts of fever reducers, enough to drop your temp to a passable level. Face it, the TSA are not trained medical professionals.

You're absolutely right. But in the case of Mr X, he only began to feel sick some days after he arrived. (That's the official story, anyway.) However, we have no idea if any other people have got past the dear sweet TSA just by using medicines to reduce fever. It's possible. Aspirin will do.

So, back to the children who have been exposed, they went on to school, church, shopping, entertainment, transportation to name but a few of the public exposures.

Yes. Very important point you've made there. That's a major concern. If they were exposed and even began to show symptoms before being isolated, they in turn could expose hundreds just in a school environment. Not necessarily infect hundreds, but potentially expose them to infection risk.

*Bumping the thread, and where is Soficrow?*

No need to bump this thread. It's running along pretty quick as it is. As for Sofi, who knows? Perhaps just busy with real-life matters, like many folks.

Nothing in the world better than this.

Beer in hand. Fishing pole casted out. And reading a 22 page doom porn thread on ats.

CNN now reports this guy was in contact with several childrens........ Hmmmm

a reply to: antar

Yes, there are some brutal things happening in the affected W. African regions. Old superstitions, beliefs and cultural biases come into play and certainly are making it even harder to for medical workers and others to try and help the people there as best they can.

Re the "forum" query that was raised. That's a BBQ question and best discussed there in the thread drwill's started for it HERE

This thread's main focus has to stay on the topic of the "First Ebola Casein the US".

a reply to: antar

(Hope this isn't off-topic.) I left a message about consolidating the Ebola threads here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

According to the patient's sister, he did tell the hospital staff that he was visiting from Liberia.
Yahoo
During the press conference at noon, they stated he did indeed say on the 26th that he had come from Liberia, but that the:

"information was not fully communicated throughout the whole team."

This information is not instilling any confidence in me, that this incident is going to be contained.

His name (patient zero) is reportedly, Thomas Eric Duncan.

Well, this is kind of scary!

Almost time to put plan (a) into effect and run into the woods for about a year...lol

Seriously though, in my line of work, this kind of news scares me because I have to clean up after an entire apartment complex.
If more cases start to emerge I am going to be walking around in a full body suit and rubber gloves.

a reply to: drwill

He collapsed coming off the plane.

On Topic:

I wish they would disclose more information on Patient Zero so that we can get a clearer picture. Did he "know" that the people he was in contact with in Liberia were sick or is this something that can expose people without their knowing?

I mean unless it was an intentional act against the US and the International travelers in general, it seems logical that he would not have gone near anyone who was showing signs of Ebola.

If Patient Zero was unaware of having been contaminated, and was showing no signs when he reached out to greet his family, friends on his return, then this thing can be as cloaked as the common flu. And how many of the people he came into contact with were already coming down with something as ordinary as the flu, cough or cold or even allergies which cause bodily fluids to fly?

Also you cant tell me that he did not urinate, wash his hands, or otherwise contaminated everywhere he went before going down hill. Has anyone heard of decontamination of the airports, planes, hospital, public places he went upon his return?