CDC mobilizing: Dallas Hospital confirms First Positive Ebola Case in the US

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Airborne meaning by animal transmitting, right? but also if somebody have ebola and cough or sneezes on somebody else fluids that could be considered airborne, but only on those type of situations.

Not that is right now travelling to air even if not infected is around.

a reply to: Olivine

Screw his family!!!! They should have stayed in Africa along with this patient! Are we idiots in this country? Every single person getting off ANY flight from Africa should be tested for Ebola on the spot! What about the poor healthcare workers in the ER and the ambulance people who were exposed?

Look I work in an acute care hospital in a unit with 2 reverse isolation rooms here in SoCal and I can tell you matter of fact with flu season coming and the general crazy business of ERs around the country we will be overrun and are extremely underprepared for any type of disease outbreak like this. Budget cuts, staffing cuts, are you kidding me? The hospital is the last place I'll be when this thing goes off which it will!!!!!!! I'll quit in an instant ! No way my family or my young boys are worth ANYONE else's life sorry!!!! And the healthcare staff sure as hell better get paid a crapload of extra hazard pay for putting their lives at risk. The average hospital is so incompetent these days we can barely treat and process the amount of people flowing into our ERs on a regular basis. My hospital is constantly on diversion with wait times of 5-6 hours!

Ugh here a guy is waiting in the ER sick with unknown Ebola symptoms infecting other people and now he gets told he won't be seen for hours. Then he leaves and goes to another healthcare facility and boom this thing starts spreading and overwhelming HOSPITALS FIRST!

One poster mentioned our awesome healthcare system???? Yeah right! You don't work in it or at a hospital! If you people only knew. With just in time inventory we barely keep up with enough supplies to treat regular patients.

a reply to: JustMike
What if he caught the ebola from someone else who was on that flight? He might not be patient zero. He might be patient one. Patient zero could be someone else. There are lots of things we don't know for sure yet ...

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: ObjectZero

No, supposedly he didn't exhibit symptoms while been screened in the airport, (or the airport was no doing a good job of screening people from infected areas), so he would not have been infectious during that time.

So is a big chance that he didn't infected anybody during traveling.

The TSA hasn't had the best track record. But can't blame them for this one. It's hard to spot in it's early stages.

Even if he wasn't in the later stages during his travels he already has 4 days when he was that we don't know about. You can do a lot in 4 days.

a reply to: JustMike

I imagine that they may have been contacted and tested, but we will not hear about it, due to the fact that the government and CDC doesn't want mass hysteria taking over the nation and inundating hospitals were the healthy could mix with the sick.

But taking into consideration that this happen with a person infected with Melburg virus in NY and nobody got infected in the airplane I will keep a positive outlook.

Here is the scary thing about this, patient zero goes to any fast food place and sneezes as he gets his meal infecting the retail worker, the retail worker gets sick but continues to come to work because they used up all there sick time, for the year and can't afford to be off, there boss is an idiot and won't send them home either. How many people does this person effect, infecting them.

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A WARNING TO EMPLOYERS IN THE DALLAS AREA, IF AN EMPLOYEE NEEDS SICK TIME RIGHT NOW, PAY THEM TO STAY HOME !!!

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In fact as a precaution any infected area should have a federal mandate, where this isn't an even an option, yes it might cost business thousands, but they might be out of business if half there staff are infected with Ebola.

edit on 1-10-2014 by Blue_Jay33 because: (no reason given)

a reply to: whatnext21

That is why I said that the person wasn't symptomatic, in the airplane, but is our security seems to be lacking as people coming from infected areas are not been tracked.

I guess our government doesn't give a crap about a pandemic in the US.

a reply to: GreenMtnBoys

Well that brings up a problem I forgot about. The Flu and Ebola share early signs. With the Flu season coming it could mean trouble trying to lock it down.

a reply to: marg6043

Actually I misspoke, Ebola is respiratory in pigs, they are not asymptomatic carriers, meaning that the symptoms in pigs are of a respiratory nature.

It is not respiratory in humans.

a reply to: GreenMtnBoys

My daughter is a trauma care and ER nurse in Florida I am very concern about her safety, but she already has done training and got certified for biological emergency care, they trained her on how to use the body suit.

I don't know if once somebody is admitted infected and hospital personnel exposed will make any difference, but I am sure that they will be notified of any infectious person before admitted, depending the safety measures and capabilities of the hospital.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: JustMike
What if he caught the ebola from someone else who was on that flight? He might not be patient zero. He might be patient one. Patient zero could be someone else. There are lots of things we don't know for sure yet ...

Well Flyers, if that is the case there may be patients 1, 2, 3, ...who flew off to who knows where or went who knows where and was in contact with ...you get the picture.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Well if somebody was infected before him, it would be dead by now or very ill some where else in a hospital, so I doubt that it was another before him.

Like I said and evident by the posts in this thread people aren't getting it!!!!! You don't need fast food workers to spread this! OUR HOSPITALS could very well be the first places this thing spreads and overwhelms. Anyone that works in one nowadays will understand.

Wanna know how many metal cargo containers of extra food, water, IV bags, N95s etc. my hospital has in case of emergency? Lol zero, zilch, nada! We have at most maybe a few days of supplies on any given day. And we run out of stuff we use the most of all the time.

You should have seen the "earthquake kits" they stocked each floor with a few years ago! They must have got them in bulk from the 99 cents store. Trust me people most hospitals have idiots running them!!!!!

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

It is assymptomatic in dogs, though. www.psychologytoday.com...

Although dogs are susceptible to Ebola, the CDC concluded that "infected dogs are asymptomatic", meaning that they do not develop symptoms. During the early phase of their infection, however, they can spread the disease to humans and other animals through licking, biting, urine, and feces. However, the good news is that once the virus is cleared from the dog it is no longer contagious. Dogs do not die from Ebola infections.

Scary.

A bit of better news regarding cats:

To date there have been no documented infections in felines, meaning that our domestic cats are probably safe from it.

a reply to: ObjectZero

You are right, but remember that people are very concern about ebola this days, I can only imagine the emergency rooms getting full over capacity with people worry about the ebola while experiencing flu

a reply to: FlyersFan
That's right.

In theory, if Mr X is not patient zero, he could have caught it on the plane, making the contagious person on the aircraft patient zero. Which is one reason why I mentioned that "other people on the plane" scenario.

Or he could have caught it at the airport before boarding the plane.

Or for example, he could have picked up the infection at the airport where he landed. Unlikely? Sure. Impossible?

We simply don't know. The implication we're being given is that he caught it in Liberia. Although quite likely, that is oversimplifying the situation. The other scenarios cannot be excluded just because they are less likely. So I'm wondering how much checking the authorities are doing behind the scenes.

originally posted by: GreenMtnBoys
Like I said and evident by the posts in this thread people aren't getting it!!!!! You don't need fast food workers to spread this! OUR HOSPITALS could very well be the first places this thing spreads and overwhelms. Anyone that works in one nowadays will understand.

Wanna know how many metal cargo containers of extra food, water, IV bags, N95s etc. my hospital has in case of emergency? Lol zero, zilch, nada! We have at most maybe a few days of supplies on any given day. And we run out of stuff we use the most of all the time.

You should have seen the "earthquake kits" they stocked each floor with a few years ago! They must have got them in bulk from the 99 cents store. Trust me people most hospitals have idiots running them!!!!!

In hospitals I have been to in the last couple of years, the cleanliness is deplorable. My daughter went into a well known hospital and on the floor was blood from another patient, they don't have the cleaning staff to take care of things, there was also tissue and waste from a patient before her in the waste basket. Cutting costs to administrators means cutting the nursing staff and cleaning staff, not the ones who run the place, disgusting.

a reply to: Olivine

Well we just need to make sure that our four legged friends are not around anybody infected, thankfully at least in my neck of the woods street dogs are taken out of the streets.

a reply to: SpaDe_

Could he be carrying a mutated strain that has a shorter incubation period?

Mutations are possible every time a virus divides. The more infected people there are the larger the pool of virus, the more mutations can occur that could possibly lead to anther more nasty variant of Ebola.

I am unaware of any new more virulent strains, as in the dark about that as everyone else. I do know that the CDC didn't tell us about this case until after the press released it. I am still waiting for the national press to pick up the story vetted by Riffraff this morning that there is another unconfirmed case in Dallas. They are reportedly awaiting test results on another family member.

I heard the news station interview of a health official in Dallas. Link is in the quote above…

I've been on this website since 2001 (lurking for many years) and I don't know if I've ever seen so many people throwing up their hands saying "this is it, this is going to spread fast and destroy America".

When nothing happens and this doesn't spread into the doom porn dream you want it to, can this please be the final time you jump to conclusions on this forum? I love ATS but you negative Nancies either need some medication, exercise and/or more love in your life. Cheer up. Life is what you make of it, not what the talking box in your living room is telling you.