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Assassination of Star Wars Scientists

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posted on Dec, 10 2004 @ 08:10 PM
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well maybe they encounterd somthing that scared the living crp out ot them
like maybe the goverment was stopping them
encounter some mysterious figure that tells them to stop or X(




posted on Dec, 11 2004 @ 05:13 PM
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At the same time that former employees of Marconi, working on Star Wars projects, were part of an an unusual string of suicides, British Aerospace, another mayor weapon manufacterer was involved in other activities that couldn't see the light of day, not even the light of the american allies...

www.pushhamburger.com...

One name that connects these two cases is Mark Thatcher for instance...


[edit on 11-12-2004 by Countermeasures]



posted on Dec, 12 2004 @ 03:10 PM
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Interesting article countermeasure. Looks like those companies were meant to be together (1999). Hidden budgets include hidden payoffs as well as whatever means necessary to keep things quiet. Some of the projects mentioned here are older than the ones we need to find I think. I am curious to what part of the Star Wars project Marconi was working on specifically (missle tracking, radar, satellite, laser, etc).



posted on Jan, 31 2006 @ 07:38 AM
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I know I'm bring this up after a LONG while, but the reason Jonathan Wash's case is "Open" is because there was never a verdict on whether it was suicide or murder.
I have a lot of info on this, he was my mum's cousin and my great-uncle (who sadly recently died) wrote a huge dossier on the whole incident which takes some reading, I'll tell you that for free.

Edit: He had prior to his death sent a letter to my great uncle and auntie saying he feared his life was in danger.

[edit on 31-1-2006 by alexikokopops]



posted on Jan, 31 2006 @ 12:15 PM
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And it looks like Marconi Employees were not the only targets.

From:
Murdering SDI - terrorist attacks against European Strategic Defense Initiative contractors

National Review, July 31, 1987 by James S. Denton, Peter Schweizer

Link to article:

www.findarticles.com...





All the victims were involved with high-tech, defense-related research, most of it linked directly to the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), and all the deaths took place in the midst of a high-profile campaign by the Soviets to kill SDI development. Three of the dead men were senior advisors to Western European governments; each of them had participated in sensitive and previously secret SDI "cooperation talks' between their respective governments and Washington.


July 9, 1986, Karl-Heinz Beckurts and his driver were killed by a remote-control bomb. Beckurts was the Director of Research at the Siemens Company, an SDI contractor. The Marxist Red Army Faction (RAF) said Beckurts was assassinated because of his involvement in the negociations. His name appeared on an RAF hit list found during a raid on a Red Army Faction safehouse.

October 10, 1986, Gerold vonBraunmuhl, a West German Foreign Ministry official, was shot dead by a masked gunman. Police found a six-page letter written by a faction of the RAF claiming responsibility.

March 20, 1987, General LicioGiorgieri of the Italian Defense Ministry was gunned down by two assassins on the streets of Rome. The Union of Fighting Communists, a faction of the Italian Red Brigades, said they did it. Giorgieri's name was found on a hit list of the Marxist terrorist group Direct Action.

There's more. But you should read the original article.
It goes on to talk about attacks against companies and then focuses on the Marconi employees.



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 06:41 PM
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Man in trenchcoat: "We're going to kill your (pick one: granddaughter | daughter | wife | son) if you don't do as we tell you right now."

... 5 Seconds of thought ...

Scientist: "I don't believe you."

Man in trenchcoat: "Know this person?" Produces picture of said subject in a situation likely to prove they're under surveillance and could be easily killed.

Scientist: (Inserts mains wires into mouth and flicks switch).

Scrub, Rinse, Repeat.



[edit on 1-2-2006 by NextLevel]



posted on Feb, 1 2006 @ 11:57 PM
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The Price Of Truth


Originally posted by alexikokopops
I have a lot of info on this, he was my mum's cousin and my great-uncle (who sadly recently died) wrote a huge dossier on the whole incident which takes some reading, I'll tell you that for free.

Hopefully additional information won't prove to be too expensive.


The payoff for sharing it here will be the possibility that the ATS community may be able to find out what actually happened.

Last Will And Testament


Originally posted by alexikokopops
Edit: He had prior to his death sent a letter to my great uncle and auntie saying he feared his life was in danger.

Such a letter definitely counts as evidence of possible foul play, if not proof.

Proof may be found with additional investigation, however, and I encourage anyone who knows more about any of these deaths to share what they know, if they are willing.



posted on Feb, 2 2006 @ 04:40 AM
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Amazing stuff!. Thanks for bring it to light.


I only know of the case with Gerald Bull, creator of the supergun, who until today, police cannot solve the case. Not that i care about this traitor, but law is law. Amazing that we can find out who bombed the subway within hours but we cant find out the killers of this man for years! Or is another clear evidence of govt cover-up?

There should be as many theories on their murder as possible, provided it is within reason to help solve this puzzle. Does seem strange all of them were connected to the 'out of this world project'. Were their bodies actually recovered and seen by their own families? I meant no disrespect, but think for a moment, are they truly dead or somewhere else onboard, needed to continue the project in secret - a project that is bigger than we are led to believe?

[edit on 2-2-2006 by SeekerofTruth101]



posted on Feb, 4 2006 @ 06:31 AM
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What can be construed as 'proofs' that the scientists were 'silenced'?

Ans:- the sheer number of them, too difficult to discard that their deaths are a matter of chance, a roll of the dice,etc..

Question 1:- While there may be thousands of employees on the payroll of SDI project, death of a few may sound common enough, but why did Death only visited specialists of the projects?

Question 2:- Some allude the deaths related to stress. SDI is an undeniably tough and creative project, for scientists had to create something out of nothing, and stresses would be quite a bit. However, so was the Manhattan project - the creation of the first workable atomic bomb. That's even more stressful, working under a war environment too. But were there deaths? So how can such deaths be stress related?

Question 3:- The authorities had ways to make people 'disappear' - both unofficially and officially. Thanks to the supreme court and congress, the Federal Witness Protection Programme is the only 'official' programme to make people disappear. It is an evidence of reality on the hidden power of the authorities to make people 'disappear. So was such 'deaths' an evidence of 'disappearance of a group of scientist, spread over a ( short - to prevent disruption to the daily working schedule ) period to prevent suspicion?

Question 4:- The 'dead' scientists were years into the developement of SDI, since the 60s in small scale till brave Reagan push and force his way thru congress to fund and approve SDI. It is not easy to just simply hire a kid fresh out of school or new guy on the labour market to take over their duties. This is SDI, for goodness sake, not a clerical vacancy! With their 'loss', wouldn't that brain drain affect the completion of SDI and set it back for years and not completed as reported 'completed' last year?

Question 5:- As our medical knowledge grew since the 18th century, we realize the mobility of diseases. One can get it thru proximity of each other, thru saliva and even bloodstream such as Aids. So much so that even police, medics fear touching criminals who have aids. Alzhimer disease is a common enough disease for old folks. However not all old folks fall to such disease.

Hard to believe that it would fall on the ex-president of US Ronald Reagan, a person who began his career as an actor, one who takes good care of himself well for the widescreen, then as a governor, one who is assured of first class medical attention, then as president, one who gets the best of the best in medical care, sick or not.

Reagan must have made many enemies during his tenure. He must had been a demanding boss in order to make the decision to force his way bravely through congress, stepped on many toes and agencies to get the vital information for SDI. He even had to survive an assasination attempt on his life during the presidency. Was Alzhimer disease an advance method 'introduced' into him to ensure he forgot what he asked for, and a way to ensure no one believes his words even if he remembers while he confesses on his dying bed one day? He must have made too many 'jokes' about the 'alien threat' and those in power must have not been amused nor believe he can keep secrets...

sigh...will we ever know the truth.....


Edit:- For those who arent sure what Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), is, basically is a complex design of hardware mounted weapons( orbiting satellites fitted with nuclear warheads to pump laser emitters - laser screens ) in space to destroy missles ( or was it to destroy something else?) in its flight. The strange thing about SDI was that US already had intelligence that the Soviet bloc were in dire economics straits in the 80s, only a matter of time before it crumbles with the use of every dollar it earned to keep up militarily against the US, so why the expense?

Stranger still, it was supposedly scrapped during Clinton's time (1993), but reactivated again during Bush's term...but who were the enemies?

Dirty bomb Osama? Consistantly drought hit North Korea? Capitalist China? Happy US outsourcing India? Heaven forbid - France! I know they hate burgers, but surely they wont strike US with warheads in protest??!!!





[edit on 4-2-2006 by SeekerofTruth101]



posted on Feb, 4 2006 @ 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
I only know of the case with Gerald Bull, creator of the supergun, who until today, police cannot solve the case. Not that i care about this traitor, but law is law. Amazing that we can find out who bombed the subway within hours but we cant find out the killers of this man for years! Or is another clear evidence of govt cover-up?


I thought Gerald Bull was killed by Mossad? Can't remember where I first heard that theory, probably 'Horizon' or 'Timewatch' - I know it was a BBC show about his work. It would certainly make sense for Mossad to kill him, as his gun would've reached Tel-Aviv. Another possibility for his death might be the Iraqi secret service, maybe he had crossed Saddam? Or even the Iranians.

As for the rest of this thread, I must admit I'm usually pretty skeptical about conspiracies, mainly because they're seen because of a single event. But in this case, with 25 or so "suicides", all working in defence, and all dead within a short period of time, it makes even my skeptical mind think.



posted on Feb, 7 2006 @ 04:29 PM
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Who would be the most likely suspect in motive and have opportunity and means to do so?

Think about the context: mid 80's "star wars", and Europe which has military tech and leftist terrorist/crime groups.

My vote: KGB and people they paid off/ideologically encouraged to assist them.

The crimes may have been opportunistic in that they didn't seem to get the top level ones; more indicative of a KGB operation farmed out to locals.



posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by infinite8
These coincidental deaths occured between 1982-1986. Within the span of 6 years, 23 deaths of English scientists that worked on Star Wars related projects died. All of them worked in areas regarding electronic warfare, which includes UFO Research. Below I will list their names, dates of deaths, and cause of death:

1. 1982. Professor Keith Bowden: killed in auto crash
2. July 1982. Jack Wolfenden: died in glider accident
3. November 1982. Ernest Brockway: suicide
4. 1983. Stephen Drinkwater: suicide by strangulation
5. April 1983. Lieutenant-Colonel Anthony Godley: missing, declared dead
6. April 1984. George Franks: suicide by hanging
7. 1985. Stephen Oke: suicide by hanging
8. November 1985. Jonathan Wash: suicide by jumping from a building
9. 1986. Dr. John Brittan: suicide by carbon-monoxide poisoning
10. October 1986. Arshad Sharif: suicide by placing a rope around his neck, tying it to a tree and then driving away at high speed. Took place in Bristol 100 miles from his home in London
11. October 1986. Vimal Dajibhai: suicide by jumping from a bridge in Bristol, 100 miles from his home in London
12. January 1987. Avatar Singh-Gida: missing, declared dead
13. February 1987. Peter Peapell: suicide by crawling under car in garage
14. March 1987. David Sands: suicide by driving car into cafe at high speed
15. April 1987. Mark Wisner: death by self-strangulation
16. April 10, 1987. Stuart Gooding: killed in Cyprus
17. April 1987. Shani Warren: suicide by drowning
18. May 1987. Michael Baker: killer in auto crash
19. May 1988. Trevor Knight: suicide
20. August 1988. Alistair Beckham: suicide by self-electrocution
21. August 1988. Brigadier Peter Ferry: suicide by self-electrocution
22. Date Unknown. Victor Moore: suicide

I don't know the total list to date, but would love any additional feedback on adding to this list or identifying the exact star wars related projects each of these people were working on.

This information is the direct result of research by famous author Sidney Sheldon. I recommend that everyone read the full set of author's notes in the back of his book The Doomsday Conspiracy.

[edit on 12/7/2004 by infinite8]

Could you list the original sources for the info on each of those individuals, instead of just copying and pasting the above list from some other conspiracy theory forum?



posted on Feb, 17 2006 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by mbkennel

Who would be the most likely suspect in motive and have opportunity and means to do so?

Think about the context: mid 80's "star wars", and Europe which has military tech and leftist terrorist/crime groups.

My vote: KGB and people they paid off/ideologically encouraged to assist them.

The crimes may have been opportunistic in that they didn't seem to get the top level ones; more indicative of a KGB operation farmed out to locals.

Well, the KGB were the most accomplished, and apparently experienced, at making assassinations look like suicides.



posted on Sep, 29 2006 @ 11:52 PM
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I believe i can explain the general nature of these's suicides, which becomes more simple since the specific then can be percieved and generated as the entangled companies become more apparent.

The end of this brief explanation is the coincidence of BAE & the scientologist's Saint Hill Manor in the UK being located very close to each other.

Ok. This isn't looking at scientology as a religion more like a Forrest Gump creation of a void(where the scientologiests "navigate" their belief and also immersion technology where the "logistics" suicides are led) as companies innovate and new industries are formed after 1951.

In 1951, In Elizabeth New Jersey Ron Hubbard begins his American Institute for Advanced Therapy, this is also where Singer Corporation fueled the city as well as the Bayway Refinery, still in operation first by Exxon then by ConocoPhillips (and will continue to be in operation just as such oil is being consumed, no different now newer technologies). The Singer Sewing Machine operation is now closed. However, the Singer Sewing Company did innovate into the electronics aviation naviation component business (which will eventually lead to GEC Marconi BAE).

In 1952, Scientology is founded in Camden New Jersey, this is also the home of RcaVictor(sound) and also the first drive-in movie theatre, eventually as technology continues to innovate and further diversification of industries and companies. RCAvictor(sound) will be bought by GE(1986) and split RCAvictor back into RCA components that form into ABC, NBC, Thomson, Harris, Lockheedmartin (government service division). Later, Vivendi to Veolia back in France. The RCA laboratory division is donated to Stanford Research Institute (SRI), Sarnoff Corporation. The RCAvictor/Arolia eventually forms into BMG Sony. So now, the scientologist, has carried over sound and 3-D movies as drive-thrus are replaced by tvs',vcrs and indoor movie theatres and post 1986 this void is naviated between the composite field of gyroscope & navigation of Kearfott split in 1987.

Now, when the scientologists form in Los Angeles, they are able to "navigate" in a composite stationary mountain, where everyone is filtered between sound & electricity. They are now able to bring people into the 3-D via actors being initated into the void, where the scientologists live.

The standard for new knowlege OT, being Saint Hill Manor in the UK on the "navigation" of their drama. As technology manufacturing continues to become more leaner, some of these consultant's/technical advisors of traditional manufacturing may interfere with the general semantic space of translating technical information and scientology drama as "navigating" further into the clear. Or on the other hand, the creation of SuperPower Rundown by the scientologists may enhance the "logistics" of existing technology of the mainstream and the user (scientist) may also become embedded with the technology as the Marconi GEC BAE scientists were.

Were they scientists at BAE working for a technogy that overlapped with Kearfott?
Or were they a -ody (borrowed from Heavens Gate) wrapped in singer wrapped between sound and 3-D as they move toward avation and actors move toward the mountain?

I guess anyone can do this just that they have two levels of extreme where one is sanwiched between 1 dimesional of process and the other 1 dimesion of power.

It is noted that:

In 1972, Dr. Harold E. Puthoff, a researcher at SRI, put forth a series of proposals to study quantum mechanics in life processes. This resulted in the now controversial remote viewing CIA programs that have been reportedly discontinued and partially declassified since.

Swann, Puthoff, and other members of their team were all high-level Operating Thetan members of the Church of Scientology at one point but Puthoff and Swann both left Scientology during the 1980s. The connection between Scientology and the CIA has raised concerns from some critics.



posted on Sep, 30 2006 @ 12:05 AM
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Kearfott website:

www.kearfott.com...

Astronatics Corporation of America:

www.astronautics.com...



posted on Sep, 30 2006 @ 01:10 AM
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From:

en.wikipedia.org...

PRG (Stanford) would seal a target in an envelope. This envelope would be given to a group of people who would enter a car. Once they were in the car the envelope would be opened and the target they were to drive to would be revealed. They would then drive to the target and try to visually send an image back to Ingo.

Singer(Kerfott)(Process),static mind,Bayway Refinery(refined oil supplier)
RCAvictor(GE),flowing visuals,3-D movie (inside car)(gasoline consumption)
aircraft engine,gnostic information,air flow

reliable verticalization synchronization:

quartz crystal source
Hollingshead Corporation chemical
Rohm and Haas Company
Tosco Company, Exxon
ConocoPhillips, Tosco
Infineum
Koch Industries, Inc
GE
Westinghouse
Chaquita
AT&T
SRI
Veolia
Blackstone
Carlyle
Mattel
Kohlberg
International Paper
desert sand outsourced



posted on Oct, 1 2006 @ 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by infinite8

I don't know the total list to date, but would love any additional feedback on adding to this list or identifying the exact star wars related projects each of these people were working on.


you said:
"would love any additional feedback"

ok.

star wars project was what?

a war against stars?

perhaps stars would respond?

what was star wars?

it was a "RAY GUN"

that is right. a "RAY GUN" ...... reagan.

row row row your boat . . . .. . . . . ..

row in all dragon.

row in all dragun.

ro in all dragun.

ro n al dragun.

ronaldragun.

oh, looky looky looky .. . .. 6 letters in each name .. . .. .

drag gun[mirror] nug gard ... .. . nudge guard

nudge what guard?

the guard at the gates, the one with the keys, the rock named peter.

-----------------------------------------

all the people on your list were either swept up, or killed themselves because they were too weak and afraid to face their truths.....

if a car felt guilty for polluting the air, perhaps it would say:

"see, i fart"

but, a car is stupid, so let us simplify it . . .

"c i fart"

C I F A R T mirror T R A F I C

they killed themselves when they found out they were not in control of their own subconscius minds, which accounted for:

99.999999997% of all their own brain activities.

hope this answers a few questions for you.



posted on Oct, 2 2006 @ 02:34 AM
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Ya ok ET. A woman, bound her hands and feet, gagged herself and hopped on stilletto heels to jump off in a lake because she didnt know her inner mind. The OP asked for RELEVANT information, not some drivel that brings nothing to the table of this discussion. Thanx anyways. This is a discussion about multiple(26) scientists on the same project being killed and marked as suicides. Your car fart mirror wordplay that you have employed on like 6 different threads now has no relevance here.



posted on Oct, 2 2006 @ 02:39 AM
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One thing's to be learned here. Take your government seriously, they don't play around when they serious.



posted on Oct, 9 2006 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by S1LV3R4D0
Ya ok ET. A woman, bound her hands and feet, gagged herself and hopped on stilletto heels to jump off in a lake because she didnt know her inner mind. The OP asked for RELEVANT information, not some drivel that brings nothing to the table of this discussion. Thanx anyways. This is a discussion about multiple(26) scientists on the same project being killed and marked as suicides. Your car fart mirror wordplay that you have employed on like 6 different threads now has no relevance here.


star wars was what?

star wars was a laser beam being bounced off satellites to down incoming icbms, right?

a laser gun is a ray gun, right?

a ray gun thought up by a ray gun, right?

ray gun ...... .. reagan ...

there, no mirrors.

elect ron?

elect ron?

electron.

electron all DRAGUN

ronalD RAGUN.

ronald DRAGUN.

there, no mirrors.

but, why believe me?

I mean, it is not like the DRAGUN waged war on the heavens, is it?

STAR WARS???

perhaps someone replied to the threat???




Your car fart mirror wordplay that you have employed on like 6 different threads now has no relevance here.


i know a bunch of people listed as suicides that would wager you are wrong.




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