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9/11 TRUTH GOES NUCLEAR: Massive Download In Progress . . . It’s Time to Wake Up!

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posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: woogleuk
Ok, this has to be the worst theory involving the attack on 11/9/01.

You need a minimum yield on an atomic explosion to achieve critical mass, 10-20 ton is as low as they can get it right?

Are the loons who came up with this nuke theory honestly trying to tell us no-one noticed an explosion of that size on that day?

To the hoax bin, or 404, anything, this is just stupid.



A suitcase nuke (also suitcase bomb, backpack nuke, mini-nuke, and pocket nuke) is a tactical nuclear weapon which uses, or is portable enough that it could use, a suitcase as its delivery method. Thus far, only the United States and the Soviet Union/Russian Federation are known to have possessed nuclear weapons programs developed and funded well enough to manufacture miniaturized nuclear weapons.[1][2] Both the United States and the Soviet Union have acknowledged producing nuclear weapons small enough to be carried in specially-designed backpacks during the Cold War, but neither have ever made public the existence or development of weapons small enough to fit into a normal-sized suitcase or briefcase. It has also been reported that Israel has produced nuclear warheads small enough to fit into a suitcase.[3]

en.wikipedia.org...


The lightest nuclear warhead ever acknowledged to have been manufactured by the U.S. is the W54, which was used in both the Davy Crockett 120 mm recoilless rifle–launched warhead, and the backpack-carried version called the Mk-54 SADM (Special Atomic Demolition Munition). The bare warhead package was an 11 in by 16 in (28 cm by 41 cm) cylinder that weighed 51 lbs (23 kg). It was, however, small enough to fit in a footlocker-sized container.
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posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 04:13 PM
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The US, The UK, and ISRAEL had nothing to do with 9-11.

Saudi Arabia however does.

The home of Wahabbism.

The home of AQ.

The home of those 19 hijackers.

The home of Bin Laden.

The premiere financier of Sunni radical terrorism.

People seem to forget the 2000 election was up in the air, and neither side really knew who was going to ultimately win.

A machination that 9-11 'truthers' want to latch on to would be so epic, involve so many. That opsec would be impossible to maintain.

Given the US Saud relationship that began with the Roosevelt administration the US couldn't exactly invade Saudi.

The home of Mecca and Medina. That would have been the fuel to; light a world war fire. The likes the world hasn't seen since the Muslim,Christian crusades that happened long before it.

Many believe the war was over oil.

Perhaps they are right, but not in the way they are thinking.

Since EPA, and green legislation, and the push for alternative energy. All the cool kids want to use something else.

However the opec nations over there depend on oil for their livelhoods.

With the advances in fracking.

Saudi Prince: Fracking Is Threat To Kingdom

And the US is now now producing more oil

Big milestone: U.S. producing more oil than it imports

As the dependence of this country, and the EU declines on ME oil.

We have seen an exponential increase in terrorism.

Which brings us to my 'conspiracy':

ISIS,AQ, and every other two bit 'terrorist' organization is the ME version of 'black water' to keep us involved there.

If their oil revenue dries up from the West not buying their oil.

They don't have anything to fall back on.

Anyhow that's my opinion.
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posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 05:09 PM
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The pics speak volumes.Temps have to be at least 1000 c° to get that result.It think those pics just add more weight to the nano thermite theory.The nano infused moltend steel literally sank and melted a hole in the ground(chem reaction and long time frame proven by thermals weeks later)...nuclear would be much more spherical,short time frame and there would be evidence of an upwards force etc.But,does it rlly matter?The pictures are just more evidence of something that could NOT happen without very very high temps,not the claimed office fires

pic 1

pic 2
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edit on 1-10-2014 by ScalarZero because: typos,gettin late here




posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: kadara_dk

"There are three classes of men; lovers of wisdom, lovers of honor, and lovers of gain." --Plato

War and the Danger of “False Flags”: When Governments Apply the Old Schoolyard Bully Trick: “He Hit Me First!”



posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 05:39 PM
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Getting closer and closer to the truth, this is the boost we have been waiting for. The key is that this information must be disseminated with hard copy to everybody. The next step should be that a number of conspirators will come forward, hopefully en mass (the blackmailers can't kill everybody). The final piece of the puzzle would be for someone to step forward in the media who can be trusted, to put it all together and tell the real story accurately. If those things all happen, great changes might come and a brighter future for all is possible.



posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Oh yes its all Saudi Arabia's fault and the US, UK, Israel in no way have any influence over them. Yet for some strange reason. Saudi Arabia has not once ever been mentioned as there even being a possibility of being invaded by the US. None. They are not ever spoken of. Why? Why? Why? Is that not absolutely insane to you? It's kinda like if you're neighbor shot his wife and was caught red handed....Yet you somehow got arrested for it.

Why would the one nation who apparently had the most evidence against them, and was the homeland of the hijackers NEVER be looked at as an enemy? If that simple fact doesnt turn your lightbulb on i dont know what will. We went and invaded countries that had nothing to do with it when we had evidence the saudis were involved. We dont want the saudis invaded, we dont want them implicated because if they do they'll snitch our people out too who were involved.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Saddam Hussein start selling his oil in Euros not Dollars like a year before 9/11? Arent there a couple of other countries leaders who've done or proposed such bold things? How well has this worked out for them?

I hate how people say "Truthers" like it's some kind of insult. You've all turned wanting to know the truth into a bad thing. Congratu-effing-lations. Probably the best way to know your race (humanity) is doomed is when they start thinking that finding and knowing the truth is something BEST LEFT FOR THE CRAZIES.



posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 07:00 PM
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Where exactly is this data dump? I read the OP, I skimmed the thread, I don't see an actual data dump or anything to download...



posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: ohhwataloser
Where exactly is this data dump? I read the OP, I skimmed the thread, I don't see an actual data dump or anything to download...


Just another made up silly story about 9/11, with no actual facts or evidence. It sounds like a Sorcha Faal hoax.



posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: defcon5

What would an aviation expert's opinion have to do with 9/11? Other than "Those do looks like planes and they did hit the towers"?



posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 09:58 PM
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a reply to: Stackpot



The next step should be that a number of conspirators will come forward, hopefully en mass (the blackmailers can't kill everybody). The final piece of the puzzle would be for someone to step forward in the media who can be trusted, to put it all together and tell the real story accurately.

You mean like in the JFK conspiracy?

Face it there are no conspirators.
Just misinformed webbies.



posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 10:31 PM
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When trying to figure out who committed a crime, we look to who benefits the most...

Taliban?

Nope...

Bin Laden/Al Q

Not!

Bush...

A year and a half after 9/11 we were in...

Iraq? Wait, what? I'm sure W was delighted.

Approval rating shot through the roof.

Patriot act/American freedom sacrificed.

New age of FEAR provided mant benefits for the US federal government.

America died on 9/11 and the federal government benefited the most.

No investigation? Just assumptions.

All scrap material shipped overseas... where no one will be able to study it.

The "good guys" don't hide evidence.

Period.



posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: applesthateatpeople
All scrap material shipped overseas...


Why do truthers persist with lies like this?

Care to provide a valid source that all scrap was shipped overseas?



posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 10:49 PM
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a reply to: hellobruce

Can you provide a valid source for anything you've said in this thread?

Maybe a source that proves an investigation was done? A PROPER investigation.

Can you explain your need to use the words "silly" and "racist" so many times, it's as if you are paid $100 everytime you do?



posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 11:15 PM
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a reply to: applesthateatpeople
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posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 11:23 PM
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Unfortunately, I read posts like yours all the time, about 911, about the Iraq "surge", about the Oklahoma City Bombing, etc., and it doesn't really ""shake" anything up.

There was recently a thread here, asking what controversies that we had direct evidence of "cover-up" would mean enough to cause a revolution. The usual were referenced: Kennedy's assassination, 9/11, etc. the only thing I didn't see was the latter years of Viet Nam being paid for by the Social Security backlog. No one really cares…a long time ago, already. The break in of the Watergate Hotel, lead by a U.S. sitting president still didn't really makes waves…..

Human use experimentation in this country, and a very long history of it, doesn't even get stars as a reply on this website with well founded sources being quoted.
NO ONE FRIGGIN CARES.

Watch some more tv….that's another thing: try to tell anyone about the cathode ray tube, and the screen at the end of the day, buzzing after playing the national anthem, still doesn't get any attention….moral turpitude? Hypnotism? Happy with your toys, young wife, etc? IDK.

Good luck with getting anyone's attention.
tetra



posted on Oct, 1 2014 @ 11:45 PM
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originally posted by: applesthateatpeople
a reply to: hellobruce

Can you provide a valid source


You are the one making the claims, it is up to you to back those claims up. However, we know you are unable to as they are just false.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 12:49 AM
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a reply to: ohhwataloser

Go to youtube, search for Veterans Today Radio, and select shows dated 9/22 and 9/24. Those are the data dumps. Duff takes a good half hour to warm up with small talk in the first interview before giving out the Snowden info. Bear in mind that he is relaying information he received from Russia and from Edward Snowden, information which was also apparently sent to another source(s) who has not gone public. He emphasizes the point that Snowden will never ever come back to the United States, and one can understand why after listening to these interviews.



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 01:51 AM
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a reply to: hellobruce


The invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were both planned and prepared in advance of September 11th, with the apparent motive of gaining geostrategic advantage and seizing vital resources. The architects of the Iraq invasion within the Bush administration had earlier been members of the Project for a New American Century. In the PNAC manifesto of September 2000 (“Rebuilding America’s Defenses”), they admitted that the American people would be unwilling to pay the stiff price for US global hegemony, full-spectrum military dominance, and the imposition of a new order in the Middle East – unwilling, that is, in the absence of a catalyzing event, an epochal lesson such as a “new Pearl Harbor.”


Here's one of your reasons. Why don't you read the document entitled 'Rebuilding America's Defences' rather than spouting "Truther" rubbish!


9/11 put the nation on a permanent war footing, allowed the extension of secrecy doctrines, and temporarily deified the President. The unprecedented public fear was stoked and exploited to allow a roll-back of domestic rights and liberties, as had long been advocated by key members of the Bush administration (and their allies in both major parties). 9/11 allowed the designation of “enemy combatants” in violation of international law; preventive detention and the open use of torture; the activation of long-standing “shadow government” plans; the passage of measures officially undermining constitutional government; and a wholesale re-definition of US geopolitics and American society itself.

Perhaps most important of all to potential conspirators, trillions of dollars in spending priorities were predictably shifted from “butter” to “guns” in the years after September 11th, unleashing a new wave of growth and profiteering in the war and security industries. 9/11 became a pretext for economic crisis management and transformation under the cover of war and counterterror.


A few reasons why 'they' did it!

So let's see the evidence that 'they' destroyed.

All the Steel in the rubble in ground zero was cordoned off, loaded onto trucks with police escort and put into Hangers under armed guard. No investigators were allowed access. NIST did their own dubious investigation then the steel was sold to China and melted down.

All communication tapes in the FAA and 'Giant Killer' were destroyed. CCTV tapes were taken and never seen again

There's a thing. If they wanted to shut up the "Truthers" then why don't they show the CCTV footage? Yeah Right! That would show the truth and the US, Israel and Saudi Arabia don't want that!


Dr. Niels Harrit is a retired associate professor of chemistry at the University of Copenhagen and one among an international team of scientists who published a paper in The Open Chemical Physics Journal on the discovery of nano-thermite
in the dust from the World Trade Center collapses on September 11, 2001. He has recently finished a lecture tour of Canadian universities, where he spoke on the subject.

In this interview on the cable program Face to Face with Jack Etkin, Dr. Harrit discusses this finding and its implications. Dr. Harrit notes that World Trade Center building 7 (WTC 7), a 47-story steel-framed skyscraper that was not hit by one of the planes on 9/11, collapsed symmetrically into its own footprint, and that the official explanation for this is that it was due to fire. However, the finding of nano-thermite in the dust, along with other available evidence, leads inescapably to another conclusion. “There is no doubt that this building was taken down in a controlled demolition,” says Dr. Harrit. “I consider this to be [a] mainstream scientific conclusion. There’s no way around this conclusion. There are so many observations that are only compatible with a controlled demolition.”


Yes of course. All 3 were controlled Demolitions! And Nano Thermite was used in the symmetrical angle cutting of the columns.




Wake Up and Smell the Aluminothermic Nanocomposite Explosives: As Documentation of Thermitic Materials in the WTC Twin Towers Grows, Official Story Backers Ignore, Deny, Evade, and Dissemble – A detailed record of the development of bodies of evidence showing the use of aluminothermic pyrotechnics


Yeah these Official Story backers call people 'Truthers' and continue to evade the evidence by putting their fingers in their ears. La la la la la la.............Don't want to hear it!!!!!

Oh and regarding WTC-7 just look and listen to the testimonies by Barry Jennings when he details the fact that floors 1 - 6 were gone before he was rescued the 8th floor by Firemen. Floors gone? Ah ok.....Boom! Funny that. It was the same as WTC 1 and 2. Their basements were taken out by explosives too! First rule of demolition. Weaken the base!

I could go on and on but there is so much evidence that you really have to read it yourself.

There are various 9/11 Truth sites but here is one wit a hell of a lot of detail in it. Never noticed if it said anything about the Dancing Israeli's but it says a lot about Saudi and it's relations with Bush and co.

9/11 Truth



posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 03:09 AM
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originally posted by: Hilux1996
Yes of course. All 3 were controlled Demolitions! And Nano Thermite was used in the symmetrical angle cutting of the columns.



Why are you showing a picture of a column cut during the cleanup by a thermic lance?




posted on Oct, 2 2014 @ 03:18 AM
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originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Hilux1996
Yes of course. All 3 were controlled Demolitions! And Nano Thermite was used in the symmetrical angle cutting of the columns.



Why are you showing a picture of a column cut during the cleanup by a thermic lance?



Is there a video showing someone cutting it? Please post it!

And why would they cut it at an angle?
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