Be Afraid America, ISIS is Coming!!

a reply to: Ironclad2000

Meanwhile, more Americans WILL die this month, from cancer, diabetes and other lifestyle diseases, than have been killed by "terrorists" in the last 15 years.

We are lost, from the inside-out, because we deliberately poison ourselves (and our kids!) in the name of "the economy" while kissing the hand that slits our throats.

Then, like children, we fantasize our enemy is something "other," -- outside of US, and contemplate all of the ways we will harm or kill it if it ever tries to "mess with us."

Never mind western civilization; our entire species needs to grow the hell up.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

Meanwhile:

CIA Contractor “ISIS Completely Fabricated Enemy by USA”

You have a better chance of being assaulted in your home by your local swat team than you do of being attacked by any radical in your home

originally posted by: deckdel
a reply to: tothetenthpower

How does this fit with the idea of disarming the Americans, and pushing harder on gun controls?

I have yet to see a high-level approach to guns that includes disarming the general public. I've seen smaller, regional and state-level attempts to pull guns from people but I have yet to see anyone on the federal level taking peoples guns or disarming the population.

The idea of disarming the population is something I've heard mentioned by the NRA more than anywhere else... fear-mongering... nothing more.

Your post made me chuckle visualising it. Its good to keep a sense of humour sometimes otherwise in these times of doom and gloom the psychiatric hospitals are going to be overflowing!a reply to: Aazadan

a reply to: ispyed

We are responding to an intrusive IDEA being used as a weapon ,instead of a country.
ANYONE could be BIT by the ZOMBIE and then kill someone.
It's being AIDED by a progressive WAVE of culture,that is itself unwelcome and causing FRICTION as it's HIPPY progenitors have occupied Higher education and the legal system.
They seek control.
A BANKERS OLIGARCHY ,working since the INDUSTRIAL age, are YOUR worry here.
Not America.

a reply to: anxiouswens

We got into quite an argument over it, I'm just old enough to remember a time before terrorism was shoved down our throats, but still young enough that it's covered basically my entire adult life. I eventually ended the argument by calling George Washington a terrorist... they didn't like that. One mans freedom fighter and hero is another mans terrorist.

That's not to say ISIS isn't dangerous, but we're handling the situation all wrong. For all the money and lives wasted have we even made a dent in the number of terrorists facing us or the severity of the issue? It looks to me like it has only gotten worse.

Maybe there's some truth to the idea that government is incompetent, this has been one ineffective war on terror.

a reply to: Aazadan

I'm seeing profiling COMING up.
Don't WANT it but I sure see it.

Im in my late forties so as you say its nothing new. Same as people talking about dates and times when the world will end. In my younger days I used to take these prophecies seriously but my mum who is 90 says they have been talking about this since she was a young girl.

I was working in Manchester when the IRA left a huge bomb in a van at the road side. It blew Manchester to bits but fortunately no one was killed. The only difference with ISIS is that cant be any negotiations because its their way or the highway and they play on the minds of young people who are already loose cannons and gullible who also go off on their own and plan atrocites. Thats the frightening bit. a reply to: Aazadan

a reply to: beezzer

Haha! Exactly.

When I think of Isis, I think of Children of the Corn. That is, what happens when you replace critical thought with religious doctrine.

ISIS, for all intents, are just Children of The Corn, with AKs........in sand.

Ok, people I know that this thread is about ISIS coming to the US, but I can not help myself, it is not ISIS that we should be worry soo much as today, but with the first US case of ebola in Texas, we should say that "ebola is not just coming to American is right here now.

Yes I been sarcastic.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

No one is yet too sure who the ISIL really are. Some say remnants of Hussein's disbanded "Republican Guard" from Iraq mixed with regular soldiers, who applied what they'd learned by observing American military operations and fighting in both Gulf Wars. (Maybe. Maybe not.)

It's well known that CIA Contractors (current or former Spec Ops) have trained multiple rebel groups in the MidEast, from Libya to Syria. But the ISIL got too good too fast, giving the impression that the ISIL was trained by multiple Spec Ops, with almost one-on-one training ... from somewhere.

Honestly, I'm more worried about what Team Obama is up to next, than the overseas ISIL. Although, if we have embedded (turn-coat) American Spec Ops in the ISIL, and too many troop ships suddenly start heading back from Syria, yeah, there could be a problem brewing. The American embedded (traitorous) Spec Ops would know their way around the U.S. - possibly with a list of targets - and the ISIL remnants would just do the grunt work with overpowering weaponry.

Let's just hope the Pentagon doesn't send the majority of our soldiers/sailors overseas at the wrong time ....

a reply to: tothetenthpower

What to say?...

The politics of fear... is when leaders (or candidates for leadership) use fear as a driving or motivating factor for the people, to get them to vote a particular way, allow excesses in spending, or accept policies they might otherwise abhor. It's banking on the fact that presenting people with an alleged threat to their well-being will elicit a powerful emotional response that can override reason and prevent a critical assessment of these policies.

rationalwiki.org...

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Aazadan

I'm seeing profiling COMING up.
Don't WANT it but I sure see it.

That's already here. What do you think watch lists are? We're currently conducting every type of profiling possible whether that's tracing a persons purchases to see if they're becoming unstable (buying habits change when your frame of mind changes), to racial profiling, to giving veterans increased scrutiny because they know how to use weapons. I hadn't thought about it until you mentioned those words but I remember right after 9/11 when we debated using any profiling techniques at all... now we do them all. It's amazing what people with power and a bit of paranoia/fear can do. To quote a certain senator "We need to wipe them out because if we don't they're going to invade and kill us all".

originally posted by: anxiouswens
I was working in Manchester when the IRA left a huge bomb in a van at the road side. It blew Manchester to bits but fortunately no one was killed. The only difference with ISIS is that cant be any negotiations because its their way or the highway and they play on the minds of young people who are already loose cannons and gullible who also go off on their own and plan atrocites. Thats the frightening bit. a reply to: Aazadan

The worst enemies to face are the ones that feel they have nothing to live for. Those are the ones you can't reason with because they place no value on their lives. It's why countries that have very little are also the ones who will fight to the death. ISIS, is like that because the Middle East is second only to Africa in screwed up hellholes. We've never helped them build up a way of life that they can be happy with, instead it's just misery, poverty, and war for generations.

When our strategy is to bomb their infrastructure and keep them from having anything, what things do they have to go back to when the war is over? By our standards the way of life they preach isn't a great one but we can't judge the world by our standards. If we stopped bombing them, killing them, and destroying anything they try to build maybe something would be left that could give them a reason to not fight. That would make them more willing to negotiate. If we just left them alone for 20 years they could build a way of life that they're happy with by their standards, their weapons (that we bought them)would be gone, their training (that we conducted) would goto waste. When it comes time to fight after that point they're starting not just from step 1 but from a position where they actually have things they care about. That would make them much more open to negotiation.

I don't support their way of life and I certainly don't endorse their terrorist actions on our soil but when I think about how we've used them as cannon fodder in our wars, funded them, armed them, empowered them, and have escalated their religious tensions I have to say that I can understand why they hate us so much. Just look at the picture that's all over this website of McCain sitting down with the leaders of ISIS in an arms deal. If we didn't get involved in the first place this never would have been an issue.

How does one distinguish between "ISIS - iraq - what the news sells" and "ISIS - the US military contractor", who just so happens to have work in Iraq?

Is this why Obama and other NATO leaders keep referring to them as ISIL? To not confuse the two, or to conjure an illusion and just differentiate between one and the same?

I know...most of you will say "well that's a stretch buddy"...and fine, maybe it is. But would we be surprised that they are this blatent with their lies and manufacturing of consent to kill and instill fear?

ISIS Intelligence Solutions

a reply to: Aazadan

What do you mean by "ineffective"? Arms dealers are making more money than ever. Pharmaceutical companies are making money hand over fist shoving opiates down our throats thanks to Afghanistan. And the best part is that the enemy is something that cannot be gotten rid of. So no one has to worry about the target falling apart like yesteryear's big bogeyman (USSR). Sounds like everything is working as intended to me.

Shouldn't it be "Isis, be very afraid, the American Christians think your evil necromancers sacrificing people to some Evil God of Death. They are coming for you and your Souls."

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Aazadan

What do you mean by "ineffective"? Arms dealers are making more money than ever. Pharmaceutical companies are making money hand over fist shoving opiates down our throats thanks to Afghanistan. And the best part is that the enemy is something that cannot be gotten rid of. So no one has to worry about the target falling apart like yesteryear's big bogeyman (USSR). Sounds like everything is working as intended to me.

War on Poverty. War on Drugs. We have a great track record at declaring war on poorly defined ideas.

originally posted by: Specimen
Shouldn't it be "Isis, be very afraid, the American Christians think your evil necromancers sacrificing people to some Evil God of Death. They are coming for you and your Souls."

The fact that Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship the same god has to be one of the universes great ironies.

I absolutely agree with what you have written and I fully understand why the wesst (especially America and Britain) mst irritate the hell out the middle east. In past couple of decades especially we seem to have took on the role of policing al these countries without any real understanding. Lets face it both countries could probably do with worrying about how their own countries are run. Wat I dont understand is why people born and raised in Britain feel the need to go over there and get involved in something that doesnt concern thema reply to: Aazadan

Good discussion!

The idea of "profiling" is too simplistic. Cell phones have had locator-chips from the very beginning. NSA and others have long been able to match certain speech to where you are, and what you are doing. The child porn types get arrested. Those using threats of violence against our country have probably been subdivided into a hundred secret files of people "being watched."

The "gun-ban" push is as laughable as everything else stumble/bumble Team Obama has sank so much time and money into. Like gun-banned Chicago, with their weekend murder rate tops in the country, private citizens just got laws passed for "personal carry" gun permits. Chicago's weekend murder rate is down, all people feel safer. Problem solved.

Half our country now pays no taxes, due to unemployment and poverty. And Team Obama is busy shoveling their voter base into federal-pay programs - welfare to disability. YET the top not-quite-leaders in this country are as corrupt as they come.

They have repeatedly given in to Global Elitist demands to keep the unwinnable wars going in the MidEast, only so that the Elitists can get their claws into actual or proposed gas/oil pipelines from the MidEast to Europe. And do you REALLY believe all those "Youth Vote" and "Green Energy" MILLIONS Obama has thrown at Nigeria and Kenya all went to those programs?

Wake up, Sheeple!