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posted on Dec, 7 2004 @ 07:16 PM
I am a new poster, and found this site to be interesting. I am a member of a fraternity which I guess could be considered a secret society, and I was just wondering what everyone knew about the skulls? If everyone could put in their info that would be great( truths myths, etc.) Thanks

posted on Dec, 7 2004 @ 07:50 PM
I think it's up to YOU to let us know something about the clan..I know of The movies,a couple of site about it,there's even a german forum called skulls..and the Band...But I will check on another forum I visit about secret societies,well If you would call Hells Angles;the Yakuza,Italian & Russian Mobsters..etc..etc;.secret...
But I shall be back..I'll do some spy work,check in on my colleages at the club house..about who was it again....Ahh zeker..

Wait wasn't there a book written by a Uri dawbenko...I think it was called ..
'BUSHWHACKED" I right??...;

[edit on 7-12-2004 by Horus_Re]

posted on Dec, 7 2004 @ 08:00 PM

Originally posted by FlamingoHunter
If everyone could put in their info that would be great( truths myths, etc.)

Well, why don't you tell us what you know?
Sounds to me like you need some information and you want us to find it for you?
Have you used the search function on ATS yet? It's up at the top, red lettering, right below the banner

[edit on 7-12-2004 by DontTreadOnMe]

posted on Dec, 8 2004 @ 07:42 AM
The Film about it

I believe there was also a sequel aptly named Skulls 2

About the Fraternity Skulls

Not sure if it is the same one you are referring to

An apparent name for Phi Kappa Sigma

[edit on 8/12/2004 by Bondi]

posted on Dec, 8 2004 @ 09:24 AM
The book in the following link is by Alexandra Robbins, a graduate at Yale University, that got the inside scoop on the Skull and Bones. INterviewed over 100 Bonesmen.

posted on Dec, 8 2004 @ 11:11 AM
If I am correct and it is quite possible that I am not, but the Skulls and Skull & Bones are two different fraternities.

The name Skulls is a nickname for a greek letter frat that has a skull and bones on its badge, and is not based at Yale.

Interesting book though, haven't heard of it, may put on the old christmas list.

posted on Dec, 8 2004 @ 02:03 PM

Originally posted by FlamingoHunter
I am a new poster, and found this site to be interesting. I am a member of a fraternity which I guess could be considered a secret society, and I was just wondering what everyone knew about the skulls? If everyone could put in their info that would be great( truths myths, etc.) Thanks

Are you ready..??,this is what I found about them,it took some searching but when i found it,i thought it was interesting enough to come back to you..

'The Skulls': Insider Secrets of the New World Orderlies..
What if you were tapped -- invited to join the world's most powerful secret society -- the Order of Skull and Bones -- a membership so exclusive that it virtually guarantees success in the material world?

What if you could join the ranks of global movers and shakers like George Herbert Walker Bush (Director of CIA, US Ambassador to the UN, and President of the United States), George W. Bush (party animal and cokehead screw-up, Governor of Texas and future President of the United States), and other members of the Power Elite of industry, education, banking and media?

Would you do it? And what would be the consequences?

Written by John Pogue (US Marshalls) and directed by Rob Cohen (Dragonheart, Daylight), "The Skulls" is an entertaining albeit cursory look at the hidden world of secret societies.

Luke McNamara (Joshua Jackson, "Dawson's Creek") is a working class guy, who happens to be the varsity crew team captain at an Ivy League school, obviously Yale University.

His best friends are Will (Hill Harper), a student journalist, and the rich and blonde Chloe (Leslie Bibb).

Invited to join a super-secret society called the Skulls, Luke's priorities and friendships start to change.

His soul-mate -- he's bonded to a Skulls' chum by revealing his most intimate secrets -- is Caleb Mandrake (Paul Walker), a rich kid with a strong track record for getting into trouble and getting bailed out by his father, Litten (Craig T. Nelson). It's really hard not to think of Bush Jr. and Bush Sr.

Senator Leveritt (William Petersen) is Litten's own soul-mate, who is blackmailed when he doesn't want to play ball with Mandrake anymore.

When his friend Will is killed, Luke's world is turned completely upside down.

The real life analogue of the Skulls is the Order of Skull and Bones, a Yale-based secret society which has spread its tentacles throughout the highest echelons of government, finance and industry.

America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones (Liberty House Press, Box 80650, Billings, MT 59108) by former Hoover Institution historian Antony C. Sutton remains the classic must-read history of this group and its inordinate influence in global affairs.

"Those on the inside know it as the Order," Sutton begins. "Others have known it for more than 150 years as Chapter 322 of a German secret society. More formally for legal purposes, The Order was incorporated as The Russell Trust in 1856. It was also known as the Brotherhood of Death. Those who make light of it, or want to make fun of it, call it Skull and Bones, or just plain Bones."

"The American chapter of this German order was founded in 1833 at Yale University by General William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft who in 1876 became Secretary of War in the Grant Administration. Alphonso Taft was the father of William Howard Taft, the only man to be both President and Chief Justice of the United States."

"The Order is not just another campus Greek letter fraternal society with passwords and handgrips, common to most campuses," Sutton continues. "Chapter 322 is a secret society whose members are sworn to silence. It only exists on the Yale campus. It has rules. It has ceremonial rites. It is not at all happy with prying probing citizens known among inititiates as outsiders or vandals. Its members always deny membership... Above all the Order is powerful, unbelievably powerful. If the reader will persist and examine the evidence to be presented [in the book] which is overwhelming, there is no doubt his view of the world will suddenly come sharply into focus with almost frightening clarity."

In real life, The Order meets on Deer Island in the St. Lawrence River and "the most likely potential member is from a Bones family who is energetic, resourceful, political and probably an amoral team player. A man who understands that to get along you have to go along. A man who will sacrifice himself for the good of the team."

According to Sutton, who in 1983, received an eight-inch batch of documents including the membership list, the Order is a secret society dominated by old line American families and new wealth which has existed from 1833 to the present.

These families include: Lord (1635, Cambridge, Mass), Bundy (1635, Boston, Mass) Phelps (1630, Dorchester, Mass), Whitney (1635, Watertown, Mass), Perkins (1631, Boston, Mass), Stimson (1635, Watertown, Mass), Taft (1679, Braintree, Mass) Wadsworth (1632, Newtown, Mass), Gilman (1638, Hingham, Mass), Payne (Standard Oil), Davison (JP Morgan), Pillsbury (Flour Milling), Sloane (Retail), Weyerhaeuser (Lumber), Harriman (Railroads) and Rockefeller (Standard Oil).

Sutton writes that The Order has penetrated every segment of American society -- law, education, media, publishing, business, industry, commerce, church, banking, Federal Reserve System, foundations, think tanks, policy groups, legislatures, political parties and the White House-executive branch of the US Government.

"Among academic associations, the American Historical Association, the American Economic Association, the American Chemical Society and the American Psychological Association were all started by members of the Order or persons close to the Order," writes Sutton.

"These are key associations for the conditioning of society," Sutton emphasizes. "The phenomenon of The Order as the first on the scene is found especially among foundations."

The Carnegie Institution, the Peabody Foundation, Slater Foundation, Russell Foundation, Sage Foundation and Ford Foundation were all associated with Daniel Coit Gilman, a member of the Order who was also the first president of Johns Hopkins University.

Interestingly enough Sutton points out that "during the past one hundred years any theory of history or historical evidence that falls outside a pattern established by the American Historical Association and the major foundations with their grant making power has been attacked or rejected -- not on the basis of any evidence presented, but on the basis of the acceptability of the argument of the so-called Eastern Liberal Establishment and its official historical line."

Likewise, alternatives to the politically correct version of news events and history is typically condemned as "conspiracy theory."

The reality, however, remains that despite the Big Media Cartel's cover stories, alternative history provides an independent appraisal of realpolitik and the real-life criminal conspiracies, treacheries and intrigues of the Power Elite.

"There is an Establishment history, an official history, which dominates history textbooks, trade publishing, the media and library shelves," writes Sutton. The official line always assumes that events such as wars, revolutions, scandals, assassinations are more or less random unconnected events. By definition events can never be the result of a conspiracy. They can never result from premeditated planned group action. An excellent example is the Kennedy assassination when, within 9 hours of the Dallas tragedy, TV networks announced the shooting was not a conspiracy regardless of the fact that a negative proposition can never be proven and that the investigation had barely begun."

Every thinking man and woman must now decide between two paradigms -- the Randomness of History (taught by Establishment teachers) vs. the Conspiracy of History (taught by Real Life experience).

Do events just happen? Or are they often "programmed" by unseen hands?

The most important point of Professor Sutton's book is his contention that the Order can manipulate history itself through the control of the so-called Hegelian dialectic process.

"The operations of the Order cannot be explained in terms of any other philosophy," Sutton affirms. "Therefore the Order can not be described as 'right' or 'left,' secular or religious, Marxist or Capitalist. The Order and its objectives are all of these and none of these."

The current world situation has been deliberately created by these elites who manipulate both the so-called "right" and the so-called "left." By controlling the resulting "synthesis" -- the end result of Hegelian "thesis" and "antithesis" -- a Globalist New World Order is produced. You can call it techno-fascism or techno-feudalism, but the result is the same -- a global consolidation and mega-corporate transnational centralization of power, capital and resources.

And how does it work? By using "managed conflict" or "crisis management." a crisis or problem is produced. Then the crisis is "managed" and the problem is "solved" with an outcome that is invariably favorable to the goals and agendas of the Global Power Elite.

"College textbooks present war and revolution as more or less accidental results of conflicting forces," writes Sutton. "The decay of political negotiation into physical conflict comes about, according to these books, after valiant efforts to avoid war. Unfortunately, this is nonsense. War is always a deliberate creative act by individuals."

"Revolution is always recorded as a spontaneous event by the politically or economically deprived against an autocratic state," he continues. "Never in Western textbooks will you find the evidence that revolutions need finance and the source of finance in many cases traces back to Wall Street."

Professor Sutton's prodigious body of work includes the heavily referenced history, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, which explains how investment bankers, including Skull and Bones member Prescott Sheldon Bush, fatherof George H.W. Bush and partner of investment banking firm Brown Brothers, Harriman, financed the Nazi War Machine through New York City-based Union Banking Corporation, a joint Thyssen Bank-Harriman operation.

Professor Sutton's landmark history entitled Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution describes how Wall Street bankers initially financed the communists, and The Best Enemy Money Can Buy describes how the Power Elite continued to financially support the Soviet Empire during the historical charade called "The Cold War."

In America's Secret Establishment, Professor Sutton writes that "just as we found the Bush family involved with the early development of the Soviet Union, then with financing the Nazis and behind the scenes in Angola, so we find a Bush active in construction of the new dialectic arm: Communist China."

When President Nixon appointed George "Poppy" Bush (The Order 1948) as US Ambassador to the United Nations in 1971, the scene was set for the development of China as the next superpower -- with the help of advanced American technology.

Note: The Order specializes in long-range global planning.

Since then, "Poppy" George's older brother, Prescott Bush, has been managing Bush Family investments in China. Using Asset Management International Financing & Settlement, Ltd and other corporate fronts, he has brokered deals with Los Angeles based Hughes Aircraft as well as other joint ventures with the repressive, human-rights abusing, murderous Chinese government.

Sound familiar? Remember the Bush Family's involvement with the thugocracies of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Empire. It's all in the family -- so to speak.

"Are you ready to be reborn?" the secret society's initiate is asked in the movie.

Then the elaborate rituals and male-bonding ceremonies of illuminati-style networking begin -- being caged with your fellow 'soul-mate" and asked to reveal your worst fears, then covering up the crimes and murders of your secret society buddies. After all even the younger Mandrake confesses, "My father always covers for me."

Though disparaged by mainstream reviewers, "The Skulls"is an entertaining look at a dark and disturbing subject. With the golden hues of an affluent youth, the film reflects the charmed lifestyle of the young and the elite -- expensive cars, unlimited bank accounts and even the ubiquitous sex slaves, babes in illuminati land, who march in during the Skulls' festivities.

And, for the eternally optimistic, it even has a happy ending. You can walk away from the illuminati. And even live.

"If it's secret and elite, it can't be right," Luke concludes. As author C. Wright Mills says in The Power Elite, these are the elite groups which network for the rest of their lives.

"He was a Skull the day he was born," says a talent scout in the film. He could have been referring to 3rd generation Bonesman, George W. Bush, the soon-to-be Emperor of America. His father George Herbert Walker Bush, as well as his grandfather, Prescott Bush, are both Boodleboys, i.e. members of the Order of Skull and Bones.

Don't hold your breath for Barbara Walters to ask George Bush Jr. about his membership in the Order.

He really can't answer that question -- you know.
It's against the rules....I knew i read it somewhere some time ago about the Shrub family being in an Org..I have plenty more on the most powerful family in the world in the Book called' Bushwhacked', I could ea'silly flood the site with their conspiracies...Well,Kaplha' as a Klingon would tell you ..
in your 'success' in the material world my me when your a miilionare,and remember I helpped you on your way...

posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 04:05 AM

Which frat/society are you looking into?



Skull & Bones

I have presumed from your original post it was Skulls, but others seem to keep quoting reference regarding Skull & Bones, if you could clarify what you are after, and as you have/are joining provide us with the info you have so far, maybe we can help.

posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 06:11 AM

Originally posted by Bondi
I believe there was also a sequel aptly named Skulls 2

There was also a third movie titled Skulls 3 in which a sheba was allowed membership. It seems like the theme in every movie was pretty much about covering up a serious crime that most of us would do serious time over. In all three movies the young new skull member ends up leaving the order unhappy with the extreme advantage the order has on the rest of society. A little reverse phsycology to make us think KID are you stupid? It seems like to me kids who are raised with everything are often the most unapreciative. They don't realise what they have, they have no hunger for anything. Like the children who could care less if they hear thier father play piano, when thier friends come over thats the most facinating event in thier visit.

Perhaps the order is looking outside its spoiled children for members, someone with some hunger?

posted on Dec, 14 2004 @ 09:27 PM
As a member of the Phi Kappa Sigma fraternity, I would guess that what you are refering to is The Order of the Skull and Bones. However, if I am incorrect I would love to give you any information that I am able to

posted on Nov, 20 2008 @ 04:35 AM
reply to post by skullman

i'd like to know more about the phi kappa sigma fraternity

posted on Nov, 20 2008 @ 04:56 AM
hey I like this thread... theres a lot of secret societies out there... millions i think.. hey, where do you belong?? what infos do you think want to have?...

any way... is Obama part of the skulll and bones fraternity? i never read his bio data yet... or maybe high degree of freemasonry? how about illuminati?...
Im sleepy.....

posted on Nov, 20 2008 @ 06:27 AM
reply to post by thinkerbel

Obama is not a member of the Elugions. He belongs to the black lodge. (Many masons tend to be kinda racist so the black folk had to invent their own lodge.)

Jeeze look at the age of this cheese! I can't believe someone went all the way back to 04 to bring this up once more.

posted on Nov, 20 2008 @ 08:09 AM
reply to post by thinkerbel

Obama is not a member of Skull and Bones (S&B is a senior society at Yale, and Obama is a Harvard grad).

Also, Obama is not a Freemason.

posted on Nov, 20 2008 @ 09:03 AM
reply to post by Masonic Light

Thats not what I read. I read that he is an active member of the prince edward lodge.

Also Skull and bones is the derogatory term for them. I may be spelling elogian wrong but I do know the Yale freaks are formally known as elogin (pronounced you-low-gin)

posted on Nov, 20 2008 @ 10:46 AM

Originally posted by titorite
Thats not what I read. I read that he is an active member of the prince edward lodge.
And where, pray-tell, did you read that? Google is coming up with nothing relevant when searching for "Prince Edward Lodge" and Obama. Nor, for that matter, is there any Google indication that there's even a Prince Hall lodge named "Prince Edward Lodge" in the United States.

Any sources you can cite?

[edit on 11/20/2008 by JoshNorton]

posted on Nov, 20 2008 @ 05:25 PM
reply to post by JoshNorton

I heard a rumor the President Elect Obama is a member of the Prince Albert club. Hopefully he does not set off all the metal detectors at the White House....

posted on Nov, 20 2008 @ 05:37 PM

Originally posted by titorite
reply to post by Masonic Light

Thats not what I read. I read that he is an active member of the prince edward lodge.

I've read that a Wardrobe can transport you to a magical land with talking animals, that people wearing brightly coloured costumes can fly, and that taking a pill turns a beagle into a super hero.
Doesn't make it true, where did you read this?

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