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Nurse Fired for Refusing Flu Shot Sues Hospital, Federal and State Governments for $100,000,000

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posted on Oct, 7 2014 @ 01:43 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: Pardon?

I've asked you why you believe who you do and not the overwhelming evidence.
You haven't answered that one. All you have done is post (and re-post) studies which show nothing or are out of context.



No, you have claimed time and again, that every excerpt and link I gave about research into vaccines which shows that they are not safe, and all you do is deny, deny, and deny. You proclaim that only you, and the pro-vaccine crowd are the only ones who can say who can be counted as an expert. Even though most of your links are about a BLOGGER who is not even a doctor, an economist research posted in a journal in economics, and a couple of out of context research papers which do not take into consideration that "vaccine companies change ingredients" so not all vaccine batches, even made by the same company will not have the same ingredients used, and this skews the results. But hey, I am sure these research were not manipulated at all either... right?...

You have gone as far as dismissing biochemical engineers, neurololists, virologists, and other specialist doctor who disagree from your views. As proof you gave a link to a blog by some random person WHO IS NOT A DOCTOR, and you proclaim that that person refutes the plethora of evidence that state the contrary that you want to claim... You have "claimed" that "I will only accept the word of experts in vaccines" despite the fact that you gave us a paper on economy and statistics on vaccines and the paper was not done on medical findings, but rather statistics. You don't want to put yourself, and the very few links you have given to the same standards you demand of those of us who disagree with you...

I have already told you that THERE IS MORE EVIDENCE AGAINST the claim that "vaccines are safe" than evidence that is in favor... Then there are the virologists whistleblowers working for vaccine manufacturers that have come forward stating that vaccine manufacturers encouraged them, and even told them to falsify data, leave out facts, and in general to manipulate data from the CDC to claim that "vaccines are safe"...

I have shown you evidence that even the FDA and CDC themselves cannot corroborate that vaccine manufacturers had indeed purified their vaccines of ethylmercury, or aluminum... I have shown you cases, that are in court, of lawsuits against vaccine manufacturers because they have intentionally falsified data, mislabeled the ingredients they have used for vaccines, and in some cases they have been caught lying about the efficacy of vaccines. We know this information from whistleblowers who worked as virologists for the CDC. For example:



I would be quite proud if I had coined the way to determine an expert but I'm afraid that's down to a general consensus in the scientific world, not my opinion.

And I've shown time and time again why the research from real scientists you show as evidence isn't evidence.




posted on Oct, 7 2014 @ 01:48 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: Pardon?

I've asked you why you believe who you do and not the overwhelming evidence.
You haven't answered that one. All you have done is post (and re-post) studies which show nothing or are out of context.



No, you have claimed time and again, that every excerpt and link I gave about research into vaccines which shows that they are not safe, and all you do is deny, deny, and deny. You proclaim that only you, and the pro-vaccine crowd are the only ones who can say who can be counted as an expert. Even though most of your links are about a BLOGGER who is not even a doctor, an economist research posted in a journal in economics, and a couple of out of context research papers which do not take into consideration that "vaccine companies change ingredients" so not all vaccine batches, even made by the same company will not have the same ingredients used, and this skews the results. But hey, I am sure these research were not manipulated at all either... right?...

You have gone as far as dismissing biochemical engineers, neurololists, virologists, and other specialist doctor who disagree from your views. As proof you gave a link to a blog by some random person WHO IS NOT A DOCTOR, and you proclaim that that person refutes the plethora of evidence that state the contrary that you want to claim... You have "claimed" that "I will only accept the word of experts in vaccines" despite the fact that you gave us a paper on economy and statistics on vaccines and the paper was not done on medical findings, but rather statistics. You don't want to put yourself, and the very few links you have given to the same standards you demand of those of us who disagree with you...

I have already told you that THERE IS MORE EVIDENCE AGAINST the claim that "vaccines are safe" than evidence that is in favor... Then there are the virologists whistleblowers working for vaccine manufacturers that have come forward stating that vaccine manufacturers encouraged them, and even told them to falsify data, leave out facts, and in general to manipulate data from the CDC to claim that "vaccines are safe"...

I have shown you evidence that even the FDA and CDC themselves cannot corroborate that vaccine manufacturers had indeed purified their vaccines of ethylmercury, or aluminum... I have shown you cases, that are in court, of lawsuits against vaccine manufacturers because they have intentionally falsified data, mislabeled the ingredients they have used for vaccines, and in some cases they have been caught lying about the efficacy of vaccines. We know this information from whistleblowers who worked as virologists for the CDC. For example:

There has been an update about one of the cases I presented in the thread.




So you're using this as an example when there's been no verdict yet?

How's that evidence?


Weird.
You're happy to use potential fraud as evidence but you completely ignore real fraud then champion not only the man who committed the fraud but the whole vaccine/autism debacle that arose from it.
Just to remind you about the ignoble Wakefield..
It's in picture form as I know words are difficult for you.
darryl-cunningham.blogspot.co.uk...



posted on Oct, 7 2014 @ 11:35 PM
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originally posted by: Pardon?


Yes I did.
And did you read what I linked to showing the real safe levels and not the ones you dishonestly linked to?


I am not the one being dishonest...



Vaccine FAQs

Aluminum Information from The Vaccine Book
...
I didn’t think much about aluminum when I first started researching vaccines 13 years ago. In fact, my early seminars on vaccine education included a brief statement that aluminum was nothing to worry about. So why am I writing about it here? As I read each product insert and looked at the micrograms of aluminum in several of the vaccines, I wondered, “Has anyone determined what a safe level of injected aluminum is?” I didn’t have to wonder for long, because I found the answer quite easily. You can find it as well; just go to www.fda.gov and search “aluminum toxicity.” You’ll see several documents about aluminum.
...
Now, none of these documents or studies mention vaccines. They only look at IV solutions and injectible medications. I’m not sure why that is. Nor is it clear why the FDA does not require aluminum warning labels on vaccines when they do require it on all other injectible medications. Vaccines apparently have some sort of exemption.

All these warnings seem to apply mainly to premature babies and kidney patients. What about larger, full-term babies with healthy kidneys? Using the 5 mcg/kg/day criterion from the first document as a minimum amount we know a healthy baby could handle, a 12-pound 2-month-old baby could safely get at least 30 micrograms of aluminum in one day. A 22 pound one-year-old could get at least 50 micrograms safely. Babies with healthy kidneys could probably handle a lot more than this, but we at least know they could handle this amount. However, these documents don’t tell us what the maximum safe dose would be for a health baby or child. And I can’t find such information anywhere. This is probably why the A.S.P.E.N. group suggests, and the FDA requires, that all injectable solutions have the 25 mcg limit, since we at least know that is safe.

But wait. You are probably thumbing back through the book right now to see exactly how much aluminum was in each vaccine. Put your thumb away. At the risk of being repetitive I’ll just list it right here again:
•Hib (PedVaxHib brand only) – 225 micrograms per shot.
•Hepatitis B – 250 micrograms.
•DTaP – depending on the manufacturer, ranges from 170 to 625 micrograms.
•Pneumococcus – 125 micrograms.
•Hepatitis A – 250 micrograms.
•HPV – 225 micrograms.
•Pentacel (DTaP, HIB and Polio combo vaccine) – 330 micrograms.
•Pediarix (DTaP, Hep B and Polio combo vaccine) – 850 micrograms.

OK, I’ll do the math for you. A newborn who gets a Hepatitis B injection on day one of life would get 250 micrograms of aluminum. This would be repeated at one month of age with the next Hep B shot. When a baby gets the first big round of shots at 2 months, the total dose of aluminum can vary from 295 micrograms (if a non-aluminum HIB and the lowest aluminum brand of DTaP is used) to a whopping 1225 micrograms if the highest aluminum brands are used and Hep B vaccine is also given. These doses are repeated at 4 and 6 months. A child would continue to get some aluminum throughout the first 2 years with most rounds of shots.

Just to remind you, the FDA feels that premature babies and any patient with impaired kidney function shouldn’t get more than 10 to 25 micrograms of injected aluminum at any one time.
...
As a medical doctor, my first instinct is to worry that these aluminum levels far exceed what may be safe for young babies. But then my second instinct is to assume that this issue has been researched and that studies have been done on healthy infants to determine their ability to excrete aluminum rapidly. My third instinct is to go looking for these studies, and so far I have not been able to find any. It is likely that the FDA feels the kidneys of healthy infants work well enough to excrete this aluminum rapidly before it can circulate through the body, accumulate in the brain, and cause toxic effects. However, I can’t find any references in the FDA documents that show that using aluminum in vaccines has been tested in human infants and found to be safe.
...
So I did what any pediatrician would do. I turned to the American Academy of Pediatrics. They published a policy in 1996 called Aluminum Toxicity in Infants and Children (See Resource 5). Here are several keys items I found in this paper:
•Aluminum can cause neurologic harm.
•A study from 30 years ago showed that human adults will increase their urine excretion of aluminum when exposed to higher levels (suggesting adults can clear out excess aluminum).
•Adults taking aluminum-containing antacids don’t build up high levels in their body.
•There have been reports of infants with healthy kidneys showing elevated blood levels of aluminum from taking antacids.
•The AAP found that people with kidney disease who build up levels of aluminum greater than 100 micrograms per liter in their bloodstream are at risk of toxicity.
The AAP also states that the toxic threshold may be lower than this.
•The paper states that aluminum loading (meaning tissue build up) has been seen even in patients with healthy kidneys who receive IV solutions containing aluminum over extended periods.

Completely absent from this paper was any mention whatsoever of aluminum in vaccines.

To put this in perspective, an average adult has about 5 liters of blood. So having more than 500 micrograms in the bloodstream all at once would be toxic if their kidneys weren’t working well. Toxicity has also been seen in patients with healthy kidneys. A newborn has a blood volume of about 1/3 liter, or 300 mL. So having more than 30 micrograms floating around in their bloodstream at once could be toxic if the baby’s kidneys weren’t working well. A child has about 1 liter of blood, so more than 100 micrograms in his system could be toxic. I’ve already stated that babies can get more than 1000 micrograms injected at one time. Fortunately, this amount doesn’t all go into the bloodstream at once. It would be slowly diffused into the bloodstream over a period of time from the muscle or skin where it is injected.
...
If I could sum up the aluminum controversy in three sentences, it would be this. There is good evidence that large amounts of aluminum are harmful to humans. There is no solid evidence that the amount of aluminum in vaccines is harmful to infants and children. No one has actually studied vaccine amounts of aluminum in healthy human infants to make sure it is safe. Should we now stop and research this matter? Or should we just go on and continue to hope that it is safe?
...

www.askdrsears.com...




edit on 7-10-2014 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 7 2014 @ 11:41 PM
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You continue to try claiming that is safe. So far I haven't said not to take any vaccines... If you would have noticed on several occasions I mentioned that there are brands of vaccines which have less aluminum than others, and that parents should be asking what amounts of aluminum will be administered to their children in their vaccines.

The pediatrician I excerpted above states he hasn't been able to find research on how much aluminum is actually safe for children. He does state that there is no conclusive evidence to say either way but he is concerned and wonders if we should be playing Russian roulette with our children...

Now again, children in the U.S. are some of the most vaccinated worldwide, yet children in the U.S. are some of the most likely to have neurological disorders... I know you are bad at math and understanding the larger issues but if anyone has been lying, and trying to feed misinformation is you since you have "implied" that any amount of aluminum and ethylmercury should be safe since "according to you" the excess should be excreted by the body...



edit on 8-10-2014 by ElectricUniverse because: add comment.



posted on Oct, 8 2014 @ 01:03 AM
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originally posted by: Pardon?

So you're using this as an example when there's been no verdict yet?




I posted more than one example...



originally posted by: Pardon?

How's that evidence?


Weird.
You're happy to use potential fraud as evidence but you completely ignore real fraud then champion not only the man who committed the fraud but the whole vaccine/autism debacle that arose from it.
Just to remind you about the ignoble Wakefield..
It's in picture form as I know words are difficult for you.
darryl-cunningham.blogspot.co.uk...


Where the hell did I champion wakefield? The evidence showing vaccines are not as safe as people have been told does not revolve around one man... I am sure that in most of the research papers I posted in this thread wakefield wasn't part of the research team in most of them...

First, if Wakefield did indeed do those things he was accused of he should pay for it, but all the research I have posted doesn't depend on Wakefield, and like I said he wasn't part of the research team in most of them.

Second, it continues to amuse me that you want to dismiss all the research I have posted here meanwhile you post from cartoonists, and economic journals as if they were proof against the evidence that vaccines are not as safe as people are led to believe...



posted on Oct, 8 2014 @ 01:12 AM
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All these liberals are afraid of vaccines because the Huffington post tells them things like that.

If you don't like it, you can get another job or just get out of America altogether. The problem with America is that all these people think they are special just like the people I see in Walmart who get to eat good food with foodstamps cause they are "needy". They have proven you can live on beans and a bag of beans is $20 or so which is a lot of food.



posted on Oct, 8 2014 @ 01:15 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
You continue to try claiming that is safe. So far I haven't said not to take any vaccines... If you would have noticed on several occasions I mentioned that there are brands of vaccines which have less aluminum than others, and that parents should be asking what amounts of aluminum will be administered to their children in their vaccines.

The pediatrician I excerpted above states he hasn't been able to find research on how much aluminum is actually safe for children. He does state that there is no conclusive evidence to say either way but he is concerned and wonders if we should be playing Russian roulette with our children...

Now again, children in the U.S. are some of the most vaccinated worldwide, yet children in the U.S. are some of the most likely to have neurological disorders... I know you are bad at math and understanding the larger issues but if anyone has been lying, and trying to feed misinformation is you since you have "implied" that any amount of aluminum and ethylmercury should be safe since "according to you" the excess should be excreted by the body...




they are safe, I have vaccines and I am still living. Just like with the global warming thing, there is no proof, no floods, no droughts, just propaganda and fear mongers. Same thing with the vaccines, they is no proof, they used to make hats with mercury and mankind if still here, just like we breath CO2 fine. Just take a deep breath



posted on Oct, 8 2014 @ 03:12 AM
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a reply to: haviahabia

Mercury is safe and humans can breathe CO2. This guy should be president.......



posted on Oct, 8 2014 @ 09:06 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: Pardon?


Yes I did.
And did you read what I linked to showing the real safe levels and not the ones you dishonestly linked to?


I am not the one being dishonest...



Vaccine FAQs

Aluminum Information from The Vaccine Book
...
I didn’t think much about aluminum when I first started researching vaccines 13 years ago. In fact, my early seminars on vaccine education included a brief statement that aluminum was nothing to worry about. So why am I writing about it here? As I read each product insert and looked at the micrograms of aluminum in several of the vaccines, I wondered, “Has anyone determined what a safe level of injected aluminum is?” I didn’t have to wonder for long, because I found the answer quite easily. You can find it as well; just go to www.fda.gov and search “aluminum toxicity.” You’ll see several documents about aluminum.
...
Now, none of these documents or studies mention vaccines. They only look at IV solutions and injectible medications. I’m not sure why that is. Nor is it clear why the FDA does not require aluminum warning labels on vaccines when they do require it on all other injectible medications. Vaccines apparently have some sort of exemption.

All these warnings seem to apply mainly to premature babies and kidney patients. What about larger, full-term babies with healthy kidneys? Using the 5 mcg/kg/day criterion from the first document as a minimum amount we know a healthy baby could handle, a 12-pound 2-month-old baby could safely get at least 30 micrograms of aluminum in one day. A 22 pound one-year-old could get at least 50 micrograms safely. Babies with healthy kidneys could probably handle a lot more than this, but we at least know they could handle this amount. However, these documents don’t tell us what the maximum safe dose would be for a health baby or child. And I can’t find such information anywhere. This is probably why the A.S.P.E.N. group suggests, and the FDA requires, that all injectable solutions have the 25 mcg limit, since we at least know that is safe.

But wait. You are probably thumbing back through the book right now to see exactly how much aluminum was in each vaccine. Put your thumb away. At the risk of being repetitive I’ll just list it right here again:
•Hib (PedVaxHib brand only) – 225 micrograms per shot.
•Hepatitis B – 250 micrograms.
•DTaP – depending on the manufacturer, ranges from 170 to 625 micrograms.
•Pneumococcus – 125 micrograms.
•Hepatitis A – 250 micrograms.
•HPV – 225 micrograms.
•Pentacel (DTaP, HIB and Polio combo vaccine) – 330 micrograms.
•Pediarix (DTaP, Hep B and Polio combo vaccine) – 850 micrograms.

OK, I’ll do the math for you. A newborn who gets a Hepatitis B injection on day one of life would get 250 micrograms of aluminum. This would be repeated at one month of age with the next Hep B shot. When a baby gets the first big round of shots at 2 months, the total dose of aluminum can vary from 295 micrograms (if a non-aluminum HIB and the lowest aluminum brand of DTaP is used) to a whopping 1225 micrograms if the highest aluminum brands are used and Hep B vaccine is also given. These doses are repeated at 4 and 6 months. A child would continue to get some aluminum throughout the first 2 years with most rounds of shots.

Just to remind you, the FDA feels that premature babies and any patient with impaired kidney function shouldn’t get more than 10 to 25 micrograms of injected aluminum at any one time.
...
As a medical doctor, my first instinct is to worry that these aluminum levels far exceed what may be safe for young babies. But then my second instinct is to assume that this issue has been researched and that studies have been done on healthy infants to determine their ability to excrete aluminum rapidly. My third instinct is to go looking for these studies, and so far I have not been able to find any. It is likely that the FDA feels the kidneys of healthy infants work well enough to excrete this aluminum rapidly before it can circulate through the body, accumulate in the brain, and cause toxic effects. However, I can’t find any references in the FDA documents that show that using aluminum in vaccines has been tested in human infants and found to be safe.
...
So I did what any pediatrician would do. I turned to the American Academy of Pediatrics. They published a policy in 1996 called Aluminum Toxicity in Infants and Children (See Resource 5). Here are several keys items I found in this paper:
•Aluminum can cause neurologic harm.
•A study from 30 years ago showed that human adults will increase their urine excretion of aluminum when exposed to higher levels (suggesting adults can clear out excess aluminum).
•Adults taking aluminum-containing antacids don’t build up high levels in their body.
•There have been reports of infants with healthy kidneys showing elevated blood levels of aluminum from taking antacids.
•The AAP found that people with kidney disease who build up levels of aluminum greater than 100 micrograms per liter in their bloodstream are at risk of toxicity.
The AAP also states that the toxic threshold may be lower than this.
•The paper states that aluminum loading (meaning tissue build up) has been seen even in patients with healthy kidneys who receive IV solutions containing aluminum over extended periods.

Completely absent from this paper was any mention whatsoever of aluminum in vaccines.

To put this in perspective, an average adult has about 5 liters of blood. So having more than 500 micrograms in the bloodstream all at once would be toxic if their kidneys weren’t working well. Toxicity has also been seen in patients with healthy kidneys. A newborn has a blood volume of about 1/3 liter, or 300 mL. So having more than 30 micrograms floating around in their bloodstream at once could be toxic if the baby’s kidneys weren’t working well. A child has about 1 liter of blood, so more than 100 micrograms in his system could be toxic. I’ve already stated that babies can get more than 1000 micrograms injected at one time. Fortunately, this amount doesn’t all go into the bloodstream at once. It would be slowly diffused into the bloodstream over a period of time from the muscle or skin where it is injected.
...
If I could sum up the aluminum controversy in three sentences, it would be this. There is good evidence that large amounts of aluminum are harmful to humans. There is no solid evidence that the amount of aluminum in vaccines is harmful to infants and children. No one has actually studied vaccine amounts of aluminum in healthy human infants to make sure it is safe. Should we now stop and research this matter? Or should we just go on and continue to hope that it is safe?
...

www.askdrsears.com...

You're quoting Bob Sears.
He's being dishonest, even if you're not.
(I see he's not updated his "research" in his book then...?)

www.fda.gov...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...



posted on Oct, 8 2014 @ 09:28 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: Pardon?

So you're using this as an example when there's been no verdict yet?




I posted more than one example...



originally posted by: Pardon?

How's that evidence?


Weird.
You're happy to use potential fraud as evidence but you completely ignore real fraud then champion not only the man who committed the fraud but the whole vaccine/autism debacle that arose from it.
Just to remind you about the ignoble Wakefield..
It's in picture form as I know words are difficult for you.
darryl-cunningham.blogspot.co.uk...


Where the hell did I champion wakefield? The evidence showing vaccines are not as safe as people have been told does not revolve around one man... I am sure that in most of the research papers I posted in this thread wakefield wasn't part of the research team in most of them...

First, if Wakefield did indeed do those things he was accused of he should pay for it, but all the research I have posted doesn't depend on Wakefield, and like I said he wasn't part of the research team in most of them.

Second, it continues to amuse me that you want to dismiss all the research I have posted here meanwhile you post from cartoonists, and economic journals as if they were proof against the evidence that vaccines are not as safe as people are led to believe...


The fact that you're banging on about autism being caused by vaccines stems from Wakefield's fraudulent study.
His and his alone.
A study that has never been able to be replicated. By anyone. Anywhere. Ever.
A study which he was asked to perform again under stricter guidelines (i.e. in an ethical manner) and which he refused to do.
A study in which he changed the conclusion and recommendations without any of his co-author's knowledge.
Whether you're doing do in full knowledge of this or in plain ignorance is anyone's guess but Wakefield's making a ton of money off the back of you and your ilk doing the anti-vax convention rounds.
Easy money from the gullibles.
No recourse, no responsibility.


You're desperate to prove a correlation which doesn't exist and to do so you're posting links to papers which are either bad science or have nothing to do with what you think they do.
You cite comments from non-experts then try to suggest they are experts by saying they've published research in other areas.
You post a from a book (a book, not a research article) written by a general paediatrician which is several years out of date as proof that the safety of aluminium in vaccines has never been tested.

Every single article you've posted I've told you not only that it's not evidence but WHY it's not evidence.
Do you choose to tell me why it IS from a scientific perspective?
No. No you don't.
You just keep on churning out more and more garbage.
Gish gallop.

People DO deserve to know what's in vaccines and the benefits and minuscule risks of them.
But people should also be correctly informed not misled by the likes of you and your cronies.


You say it amuses you that I "dismiss" your research, I'm glad I make you happy.
However people like you make me ashamed to be human.



posted on Oct, 8 2014 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: haviahabia

Mercury is safe and humans can breathe CO2. This guy should be president.......


The tiny amount of mercury salts in vaccines are not harmless.
The tiny amount of CO2 in the air that you breathe in every minute is harmless.

The dose makes the poison.



posted on Oct, 8 2014 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: Pardon?

originally posted by: tavi45
a reply to: haviahabia

Mercury is safe and humans can breathe CO2. This guy should be president.......


The tiny amount of mercury salts in vaccines are not harmless.
The tiny amount of CO2 in the air that you breathe in every minute isn't harmless.

The dose makes the poison.


Corrected the obvious mistake above.



posted on Oct, 8 2014 @ 12:51 PM
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They should offer $$$$ to every nurse who refuses, but $$$ it changes people.



posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: haviahabia
All these liberals are afraid of vaccines because the Huffington post tells them things like that.

If you don't like it, you can get another job or just get out of America altogether. The problem with America is that all these people think they are special just like the people I see in Walmart who get to eat good food with foodstamps cause they are "needy". They have proven you can live on beans and a bag of beans is $20 or so which is a lot of food.


I am not a liberal.. What the hell does having a particular point of view on politics have to do with vaccines?... You will find a lot of people in all walks of life, and having different political viewpoints disagree with you... This is NOTHING to do with politics...



posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 02:19 PM
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It's not a Constitutional right to refuse a flu shot. It's part of their employment contract, that she voluntarily signed, of her own accord, without pressure.

She was fired for not following the requirements of being an employee of that organization. If she had a true need NOT to take the flu shot (religious, medical etc), her bosses would accommodate that for her if the request were reasonable.

I worked for an organization which required all staff to take the flu shot. I'd never had one before. The first year I took it, and got sicker than I'd ever been before, and missed about ten days of work that they had to pay me for outside my regular sick leave because I got sick from something I wouldn't normally have done that they insisted I do.

Every year after that, I was exempt. And NEVER got the flu.



posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: haviahabia


they are safe, I have vaccines and I am still living. Just like with the global warming thing, there is no proof, no floods, no droughts, just propaganda and fear mongers. Same thing with the vaccines, they is no proof, they used to make hats with mercury and mankind if still here, just like we breath CO2 fine. Just take a deep breath


I am sorry but you are really misinformed. I have posted several research papers which state the contrary to what people like you "believe".

Also, in case you didn't know not everyone gets exposed to the same amounts of ethylmercury and aluminum adjuvants. I have explained already how vaccine manufacturers change the ingredients of their vaccines. There are also vaccines that do not use either ethylmercury or aluminum adjuvants, and I gave a long explanation of why this is done for some vaccines.

BTW, please do not involve other topics on this one. Let's stick to discussing this particular topic.


J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2010;73(24):1665-77. doi: 10.1080/15287394.2010.519317.

Hepatitis B vaccination of male neonates and autism diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002.

Gallagher CM1, Goodman MS.



Author information



Abstract

Universal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991; however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis B vaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis was determined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccination status was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was used to estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis B vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race, maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates had threefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated or vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% less likely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest that U.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (from vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autism diagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same time period. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk.
...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...,+NHIS+1997-2002



Autoimmunity. 2005 May;38(3):235-45.

Infection, vaccines and other environmental triggers of autoimmunity.

Molina V1, Shoenfeld Y.

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Abstract

The etiology of autoimmune diseases is still not clear but genetic, immunological, hormonal and environmental factors are considered to be important triggers. Most often autoimmunity is not followed by clinical symptoms unless an additional event such as an environmental factor favors an overt expression. Many environmental factors are known to affect the immune system and may play a role as triggers of the autoimmune mosaic.Infections: bacterial, viral and parasitic infections are known to induce and exacerbate autoimmune diseases, mainly by the mechanism of molecular mimicry. This was studied for some syndromes as for the association between SLE and EBV infection, pediatric autoimmune neuropsychiatric disorders associated with streptococcal infection and more. Vaccines, in several reports were found to be temporally followed by a new onset of autoimmune diseases. The same mechanisms that act in infectious invasion of the host, apply equally to the host response to vaccination. It has been accepted for diphtheria and tetanus toxoid, polio and measles vaccines and GBS. Also this theory has been accepted for MMR vaccination and development of autoimmune thrombocytopenia, MS has been associated with HBV vaccination. Occupational and other chemical exposures are considered as triggers for autoimmunity. A debate still exists about the role of silicone implants in induction of scleroderma like disease.Not only foreign chemicals and agents have been associated with induction of autoimmunity, but also an intrinsic hormonal exposure, such as estrogens. This might explain the sexual dimorphism in autoimmunity.Better understanding of these environmental risk factors will likely lead to explanation of the mechanisms of onset and progression of autoimmune diseases and may lead to effective preventive involvement in specific high-risk groups. So by diagnosing a new patient with autoimmune disease a wide anamnesis work should be done.

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J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2011;74(14):903-16. doi: 10.1080/15287394.2011.573736.

A positive association found between autism prevalence and childhood vaccination uptake across the U.S. population.

Delong G.

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The reason for the rapid rise of autism in the United States that began in the 1990s is a mystery. Although individuals probably have a genetic predisposition to develop autism, researchers suspect that one or more environmental triggers are also needed. One of those triggers might be the battery of vaccinations that young children receive. Using regression analysis and controlling for family income and ethnicity, the relationship between the proportion of children who received the recommended vaccines by age 2 years and the prevalence of autism (AUT) or speech or language impairment (SLI) in each U.S. state from 2001 and 2007 was determined. A positive and statistically significant relationship was found: The higher the proportion of children receiving recommended vaccinations, the higher was the prevalence of AUT or SLI. A 1% increase in vaccination was associated with an additional 680 children having AUT or SLI. Neither parental behavior nor access to care affected the results, since vaccination proportions were not significantly related (statistically) to any other disability or to the number of pediatricians in a U.S. state. The results suggest that although mercury has been removed from many vaccines, other culprits may link vaccines to autism. Further study into the relationship between vaccines and autism is warranted.

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posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 04:46 PM
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Long-term persistence of vaccine-derived aluminum hydroxide is associated with chronic cognitive dysfunction
Maryline Couettea, c, Marie-Françoise Boissea, c, Patrick Maisona, d, 2, Pierre Brugierese, Pierre Cesaroa, c,
Xavier Chevalierf, Romain K. Gherardib, g, h, Anne-Catherine Bachoud-Levia, c, 1, François-Jérôme Authierb, g, h, 1,

Abstract

Macrophagic myofasciitis (MMF) is characterized by specific muscle lesions assessing long-term persistence of aluminum hydroxide within macrophages at the site of previous immunization. Affected patients are middle-aged adults, mainly presenting with diffuse arthromyalgias, chronic fatigue, and cognitive dysfunction. Representative features of MMF-associated cognitive dysfunction (MACD) include (i) dysexecutive syndrome; (i) visual memory; (iii) left ear extinction at dichotic listening test. In present study we retrospectively evaluated the progression of MACD in 30 MMF patients. Most patients fulfilled criteria for non-amnestic/dysexecutive mild cognitive impairment, even if some cognitive deficits seemed unusually severe. MACD remained stable over time, although dysexecutive syndrome tended to worsen. Long-term follow-up of a subset of patients with 3 or 4 consecutive neuropsychological evaluations confirmed the stability of MACD with time, despite marked fluctuations.
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The research abstract I excerpt below is a follow up on the above research.



Long-term follow-up of cognitive dysfunction in patients with aluminum hydroxide-induced macrophagic myofasciitis (MMF) ☆
Elodie Passeria, b, Chiara Villac, Maryline Couetteb, d, Emmanuel Ittie, Pierre Brugieresf, Pierre Cesarob, e, Romain K. Gherardia, g, h, Anne-Catherine Bachoud-Levib, d, François-Jérôme Authiera, g, h


DOI: 10.1016/j.jinorgbio.2011.08.006


Abstract

Macrophagic myofasciitis (MMF) is characterized by specific muscle lesions assessing long-term persistence of aluminum hydroxide within macrophages at the site of previous immunization. Affected patients are middle-aged adults, mainly presenting with diffuse arthromyalgias, chronic fatigue, and cognitive dysfunction. Representative features of MMF-associated cognitive dysfunction (MACD) include (i) dysexecutive syndrome; (i) visual memory; (iii) left ear extinction at dichotic listening test. In present study we retrospectively evaluated the progression of MACD in 30 MMF patients. Most patients fulfilled criteria for non-amnestic/dysexecutive mild cognitive impairment, even if some cognitive deficits seemed unusually severe. MACD remained stable over time, although dysexecutive syndrome tended to worsen. Long-term follow-up of a subset of patients with 3 or 4 consecutive neuropsychological evaluations confirmed the stability of MACD with time, despite marked fluctuations.


Graphical abstract

Macrophagic myofasciitis (MMF) is characterized by long-term persistence of aluminum hydroxide within body, years after immunization. MMFassociated cognitive dysfunction (MACD) is characterized by dysexecutive syndrome, memory impairment and interhemispheric deconnexion. Long-term follow-up of MMF patients indicates that MACD remains stable over time, despite fluctuations.
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Immunol Res. 2013 Jul;56(2-3):304-16. doi: 10.1007/s12026-013-8403-1.

Aluminum in the central nervous system (CNS): toxicity in humans and animals, vaccine adjuvants, and autoimmunity.

Shaw CA1, Tomljenovic L.



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We have examined the neurotoxicity of aluminum in humans and animals under various conditions, following different routes of administration, and provide an overview of the various associated disease states. The literature demonstrates clearly negative impacts of aluminum on the nervous system across the age span. In adults, aluminum exposure can lead to apparently age-related neurological deficits resembling Alzheimer's and has been linked to this disease and to the Guamanian variant, ALS-PDC. Similar outcomes have been found in animal models. In addition, injection of aluminum adjuvants in an attempt to model Gulf War syndrome and associated neurological deficits leads to an ALS phenotype in young male mice. In young children, a highly significant correlation exists between the number of pediatric aluminum-adjuvanted vaccines administered and the rate of autism spectrum disorders. Many of the features of aluminum-induced neurotoxicity may arise, in part, from autoimmune reactions, as part of the ASIA syndrome.
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Another study on mercury toxicity.


A Case-Control Study of Mercury Burden in Children with Autistic Spectrum Disorders

J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007 May 15;70(10):837-51.

A case series of children with apparent mercury toxic encephalopathies manifesting with clinical symptoms of regressive autistic disorders.

Geier DA1, Geier MR.

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Impairments in social relatedness and communication, repetitive behaviors, and stereotypic abnormal movement patterns characterize autism spectrum disorders (ASDs). It is clear that while genetic factors are important to the pathogenesis of ASDs, mercury exposure can induce immune, sensory, neurological, motor, and behavioral dysfunctions similar to traits defining or associated with ASDs. The Institutional Review Board of the Institute for Chronic Illnesses (Office for Human Research Protections, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, IRB number IRB00005375) approved the present study. A case series of nine patients who presented to the Genetic Centers of America for a genetic/developmental evaluation are discussed. Eight of nine patients (one patient was found to have an ASD due to Rett's syndrome) (a) had regressive ASDs; (b) had elevated levels of androgens; (c) excreted significant amounts of mercury post chelation challenge; (d) had biochemical evidence of decreased function in their glutathione pathways; (e) had no known significant mercury exposure except from Thimerosal-containing vaccines/Rho(D)-immune globulin preparations; and (f) had alternate causes for their regressive ASDs ruled out. There was a significant dose-response relationship between the severity of the regressive ASDs observed and the total mercury dose children received from Thimerosal-containing vaccines/Rho (D)-immune globulin preparations. Based upon differential diagnoses, 8 of 9 patients examined were exposed to significant mercury from Thimerosal-containing biologic/vaccine preparations during their fetal/infant developmental periods, and subsequently, between 12 and 24 mo of age, these previously normally developing children suffered mercury toxic encephalopathies that manifested with clinical symptoms consistent with regressive ASDs. Evidence for mercury intoxication should be considered in the differential diagnosis as contributing to some regressive ASDs.
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I could keep posting study after study, but to some people for whatever reason it won't matter how many of these studies are shown. These people will just continue to dismiss all this evidence.


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posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 04:52 PM
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a reply to: babybunnies

She was pregnant which is why she refused the vaccine. She was also aware of the dozens and dozens of research on the toxicity of some of the substances/ingredients used in vaccines such as thimerosal and aluminum adjuvants. She believed that a healthier life for her son is more valuable than her job.


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posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 05:11 PM
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I have already posted evidence that children with neurological disorders, such as autism, show oxidative stress, brain inflammation, and microgliosis among other symptoms, and research studies have also shown that ethylmercury and aluminum adjuvants do cause oxidative stress, brain inflammation and microgliosis among other symptoms.


Evidence of parallels between mercury intoxication
and the brain pathology in autism
Janet K. Kern1,2*, David A. Geier1,3, Tapan Audhya4, Paul G. King3, Lisa K. Sykes3, and Mark R. Geier5
1Institute of Chronic Illnesses, Inc., Silver Spring, Maryland, USA; 2University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at
Dallas, Dallas, Texas, USA , *Email: jkern@dfwair.net; 3CoMeD, Inc., Silver Spring, Maryland, USA; 4Vitamin
Diagnostics, Cliffwood Beach, New Jersey, USA; 5ASD Centers, LLC, Silver Spring, Maryland, USA


The purpose of this review is to examine the parallels between the effects mercury intoxication on the brain and the brain pathology found in autism spectrum disorder (ASD). This review finds evidence of many parallels between the two,
including: (1) microtubule degeneration, specifically large, long-range axon degeneration with subsequent abortive axonal
sprouting (short, thin axons); (2) dentritic overgrowth; (3) neuroinflammation; (4) microglial/astrocytic activation; (5) brain immune response activation; (6) elevated glial fibrillary acidic protein; (7) oxidative stress and lipid peroxidation; (8) decreased reduced glutathione levels and elevated oxidized glutathione; (9) mitochondrial dysfunction; (10) disruption in calcium homeostasis and signaling; (11) inhibition of glutamic acid decarboxylase (GAD) activity; (12) disruption of
GABAergic and glutamatergic homeostasis; (13) inhibition of IGF-1 and methionine synthase activity; (14) impairment in
methylation; (15) vascular endothelial cell dysfunction and pathological changes of the blood vessels; (16) decreased
cerebral/cerebellar blood flow; (17) increased amyloid precursor protein; (18) loss of granule and Purkinje neurons in the
cerebellum; (19) increased pro-inflammatory cytokine levels in the brain (TNF-α, IFN-γ, IL-1β, IL-8); and (20) aberrant
nuclear factor kappa-light-chain-enhancer of activated B cells (NF-κB). This review also discusses the ability of mercury to potentiate and work synergistically with other toxins and pathogens in a way that may contribute to the brain pathology in ASD. The evidence suggests that mercury may be either causal or contributory in the brain pathology in ASD, possibly working synergistically with other toxic compounds or pathogens to produce the brain pathology observed in those diagnosed with an ASD.
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Mol Psychiatry. Apr 2012; 17(4): 389–401.

Published online Dec 6, 2011. doi: 10.1038/mp.2011.165


PMCID: PMC3317062

A review of research trends in physiological abnormalities in autism spectrum disorders: immune dysregulation, inflammation, oxidative stress, mitochondrial dysfunction and environmental toxicant exposures

D A Rossignol1,* and R E Frye2

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Recent studies have implicated physiological and metabolic abnormalities in autism spectrum disorders (ASD) and other psychiatric disorders, particularly immune dysregulation or inflammation, oxidative stress, mitochondrial dysfunction and environmental toxicant exposures (‘four major areas'). The aim of this study was to determine trends in the literature on these topics with respect to ASD. A comprehensive literature search from 1971 to 2010 was performed in these four major areas in ASD with three objectives. First, publications were divided by several criteria, including whether or not they implicated an association between the physiological abnormality and ASD. A large percentage of publications implicated an association between ASD and immune dysregulation/inflammation (416 out of 437 publications, 95%), oxidative stress (all 115), mitochondrial dysfunction (145 of 153, 95%) and toxicant exposures (170 of 190, 89%). Second, the strength of evidence for publications in each area was computed using a validated scale. The strongest evidence was for immune dysregulation/inflammation and oxidative stress, followed by toxicant exposures and mitochondrial dysfunction. In all areas, at least 45% of the publications were rated as providing strong evidence for an association between the physiological abnormalities and ASD. Third, the time trends in the four major areas were compared with trends in neuroimaging, neuropathology, theory of mind and genetics (‘four comparison areas'). The number of publications per 5-year block in all eight areas was calculated in order to identify significant changes in trends. Prior to 1986, only 12 publications were identified in the four major areas and 51 in the four comparison areas (42 for genetics). For each 5-year period, the total number of publications in the eight combined areas increased progressively. Most publications (552 of 895, 62%) in the four major areas were published in the last 5 years (2006–2010). Evaluation of trends between the four major areas and the four comparison areas demonstrated that the largest relative growth was in immune dysregulation/inflammation, oxidative stress, toxicant exposures, genetics and neuroimaging. Research on mitochondrial dysfunction started growing in the last 5 years. Theory of mind and neuropathology research has declined in recent years. Although most publications implicated an association between the four major areas and ASD, publication bias may have led to an overestimation of this association. Further research into these physiological areas may provide insight into general or subset-specific processes that could contribute to the development of ASD and other psychiatric disorders.

Keywords: autism, immune dysregulation, inflammation, oxidative stress, mitochondrial dysfunction, environmental toxicants

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posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 06:18 PM
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It's not a Constitutional right to refuse a flu shot. It's part of their employment contract, that she voluntarily signed, of her own accord, without pressure.

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It is if you are being forced to inject a vaccine that has substances which several research studies have found can cause autism and other neurological disorders on children and even on some adults. The hospital should have offered her a vaccine which did not contain aluminum adjuvants, or ethyl mercury.

Then again, how can we be sure that even vaccines which supposedly are "mercury free" or aluminum free through the claimed "purification process" that manufacturers state they have done when the CDC and the FDA are not making sure these purification processes work as intended? In fact neither the CDC or FDA know for certain that these purification processes have been done since they make no tests to prove that it has been done.

Remember that there have been many vaccines which were approved by the FDA and the CDC, yet they were contaminated with other viruses and bacteria and have been given to millions of people and children. This has happened despite the claim that the FDA tests all batches of vaccines before they are approved and distributed.

There is also the fact that some vaccine manufacturers, either by error or done on purpose to save money have mislabeled some vaccines. There have been some cases in which even some scientists working for the FDA or the CDC have come forward as whistleblowers telling us that the FDA and the CDC have on purpose hidden facts about vaccines which show many of them not to be safe. These whistleblowers are biochemists who have worked on vaccine research for the CDC and FDA and they are not just your typical office employee.



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