a reply to: Auricom
Well I cant speak to that. BUT from what it sounds like to me: These people WERE NOT moderates. You know I hate this terminology. I am far from PC. I
think we can agree that it is BS and doesnt really serve a good purpose.
I will give you an example from the Muslims I met in Spain. They were mostly Senegalese. They would go bar to bar selling CDs, clothing, nick
One of my best friends in Spain was this one guy named Fran (short for some weird African name not Francisco). The guy ALWAYS smiled and had nice
things to say. The guy was walking peace. Well mannered, considerate, just great to see everyday.
There were drunks and young idiots who would mess with him. Mostly reacting to situations like the ones you describe. The guy would tell me that he
understands why they feel that way. He would tell me that he didnt resent them and in fact agreed with them on some issues. The guy wasnt a Spaniard.
He knew that with all the problems Spain was and still is going through that he was bound to get some flack for simply being there at all. Spain has a
growing hatred of immigration and a LONG AND DEEP seeded hatred for Islam. 800 years of conquest and war will do that.
The guy never let people down. If he promised something he came through. He never lied. He never stole. The guy had pride and dignity. Even when he
was STARVING he wouldnt take handouts. He lived what I like to think was the true faith for them.
When I left the guy smiled through his tears and told me that he will always be my friend. I only knew him from his selling crap where I worked. I
dont make friends easily. I would rather be alone than take in a single asshole or secret jerk into my circle. I can tell you that he was an
exceptional human being. I dont care if he was trying to make a living, or was from a dirt poor country ect. I dont even care if he was hungry and
almost pitiful. The guy carried an air of respect and tolerance for others I wish was the norm for all people, not just Muslims.
The difference is IMO that his friends were like that. There were a few shady people who were in his group that I didnt even talk to, much less be
nice to. He took to heart what the good teachers he had taught him. The people who guided his spiritual life werent out to win him over like a zombie.
They wanted REAL men and women to live a life of peace and paradise. Not some Virgin offering far away place in return for a life of hate and
violence. His paradise was here and now and he wanted to share it with you. Christian, atheist, what ever.
I know it wasnt just him or his nature. I saw the bad Muslims who just played along for a sense of belonging and some help when they were down. He was
enriched by his faith. I am telling you, they guy was a real believer /liver. I can honestly say that I am better in my spirituality for having known
He is not the norm, or is...I dont know or care. I know good Muslims. That is enough. F the world and everyone else and their experience. I will not
betray Fran. Its like that. You do not know me but I dont take things lightly. If I am with him its for a damn good reason.
That said, I met people like you mentioned in your post. Sure, I wanted to bring scorched earth hell on them and break their bodies to little pieces
of nothingness until my fists were grinding knuckles. Thats all they inspire in me. War. Opposition. Hatred. In my heart and mind that is less than
nothing though. I am more powerful than that or them.
I feel the same way about Black Hebrew Israelites, Boneheads (racist skin heads), black panthers, the KKK and every other Mother I would kill myself
if the world would let me and not ruin my life in the process.
That is only part of who I am. I am more, like Muslims are more. In the end we are all the same exact crap in different shades of pink and brown.
I like to think WWIDI100Y. What would I do in 100 Years.
If I dont care enough to live 100 years killing you or helping you then its not something that is REALLY important. Just more life and its BS. I can
live with that. The world and humanity really is worth it. Its awesome really.
Sorry for the long post, but you stirred up things in me...and I wont deny myself. Whether you read all that or not, have a good one. Hold it down.
Keep the faith.
edit on 9 29 2014 by tadaman because: (no reason given)