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Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

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posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 02:12 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

a reply to: MystikMushroom

You do whatever you have to do to make yourselves feel better about your ghoulish proclivities, Lord knows I do; hey, "whatever gets you through the night", right?

At some point a line needs to be drawn and a sanity-check needs to be made. I'm thinkin' that time is right about when folks start wanting to play God Bless America when a meteorite crosses the skies of Japan (!
!) and other folks want to sing a lonesome-cowpoke-song for the lonely stealth bombers that have no one to kill.



The problem has to do with the manufacture of consent. Not with how people accomodate living in a world with giant invisible flying abattoirs.


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posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: Bybyots

You know what, screw this conversation. You're obviously too smart and enlightened, and since I study the military, I'm obviously a rabid dog that wants to see everything blown to hell.

Screw this crap. You guys have managed to take something that people were enjoying and having fun with and twist it into making us into raving idiots too stupid to know we were played.

Congratulations. Good work.
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posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 02:32 PM
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i don't get how the "putting on a show for the opposition and covering it up for the pleebs by associating it with a whackadoo story" theory is mutually exclusive with the "running a narrative warfare drill on the locals" theory.



could be both.

eta: tech is compellingly attractive. it's easy to overlook the end result of militarized tech development when weighed against the potential civilian applications. and some look at military tech as a necessary evil for the foreseeable future, and therefore beneficial in its own right.

but speaking personally, guns and jets and bombs and, yes, even swords are #ing awesome. it's just too bad that their sole function is to kill other human beings.


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posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Hey C'mon.

Lighten up; “ghoulish proclivites” is a far cry from calling you out as some sort of “war monger”, or whatever. I was trying to be warm and funny.

I struggle with the same thing. With all sincerity, I do. All this stuff had me so excited that I had giant SR-71 wallpaper up on my big monitor with rotating images for about a week til I came to my senses.

I'm bringing this up because it needs to be brought up. If for no other reason than that, if it weren't brought up, than we may as well round-file everything we have learned about all of the subjects that members come to ATS to try and understand.

Even if this is considered to be like some kind of “mini-SERPO”, and it has just a tiny little footprint here at ATS, the social impact of the story has to be assessed against everything we know about other stories like it and the impact that they have had, and are still having, on people.

C'mon. Cut me some slack.




posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

well zap do like i do. just ignore em. dont let someone kill your fun.



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: Bybyots

Noam Chomsky engenders more discord... talk about war mongers..hehe.

I, too, go through some mental gymnastics about this stuff... my daddy bombed the crap outta nazis and poor civis in the initial air war over Europe in WWII and he had a crushed soul forever after 'cause of that... but he said he'd do it again.

It's a tough wall to walk... truth is there are terrible people who would kill for wealth, power or for killing's sake...and I'm happy we have other killers on our side to watch our butts... BUT the black world seems to have spun off into non-accountability at best... and if #nSippy's# info is real ...at all... there are some serious other concerns dealing with our very consciousness... either way, the tech itself is cool as heck and it will propel us to the stars someday, if not already... and a thinking military guy will tell ya it's primarily there to stop bloodshed... the 18 yr old enlisted guy on the front lines may have a different, more ignorant opinion.

Can't we all just get along?



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 06:09 PM
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Sorry to interrupt your 'rumble' boys, but there's something I simply must say...


...Baddogma, you are such a sweet-heart!! Blessed are the peacemakers, ect...


- "We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming" -

Huh...?..."programming"?...

...Well, that is a rather profoundly quoted quote above there now, isn't it?



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: Baddogma

Your point proven here

money sadly keeps the world turning... at least for tptb



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: lostgirl

Sadly, I get that a lot... I try for the 'dark rebel who plays by his own rules...' and end up the wise, pipe smoking reverend... oh well, we can't change our natures... skoal!



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: ATODASO
Sure you can use fancy weapons to kill people. You can also use them to infiltrate their private space without consent, terrify them into a coma, then have them wake up as usual with nothing more then a few obsure scars and hastily wiped blood on their finger tips.



But God bless our overseers....... right?



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 07:06 PM
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originally posted by: Arpad
a reply to: ATODASO
Sure you can use fancy weapons to kill people. You can also use them to infiltrate their private space without consent, terrify them into a coma, then have them wake up as usual with nothing more then a few obsure scars and hastily wiped blood on their finger tips.

Okay, this is a 'genuine' question, please don't read any sarcasm or etc into it, because I would actually like to know the answer:

'To what purpose do they do what your post here says?'

Also, I understand if you prefer not to discuss further, or you can PM me, if you want...



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 07:09 PM
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originally posted by: Baddogma

Sadly, I get that a lot... I try for the 'dark rebel who plays by his own rules...' and end up the wise, pipe smoking reverend... oh well, we can't change our natures... skoal!

Except when you're reigning havoc and devil's advocate in someone else's thread!




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posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: lostgirl

Years of bone crushing anxiety and now a suspect. I DESERVE answers! Don't make me elaborate on a thread where everything even mundane is a joke.

I am getting close to closure which I soo very much need, and can't elicit the type of response I require.



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: Arpad

As far as your feelings... sorry for the seemingly flippant attitude on my own part ... but I do take this stuff seriously and if not myself, I am at least close to some folks who nearly committed suicide over this abduction/mind invasion stuff.

I have some questions about some personal matters as well.

And yes, this narrative is the closest to a 'logical' answer I've heard... and that in itself is worth something.



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: Arpad
a reply to: lostgirl

Years of bone crushing anxiety and now a suspect. I DESERVE answers! Don't make me elaborate on a thread where everything even mundane is a joke.

I am getting close to closure which I soo very much need, and can't elicit the type of response I require.


The powers that be are the answer to whom is doing that stuff to alien adductees. They use th e technology given to them from the Romeo kilos in exchange for them being able to go about their own business un disturbed. WHo are they? they are humans except they live way longer. They dislike the way they experiment on us but have no choice in the matter because they still need what the powers that be have to offer.

WHy dont they you ask? Because we are all hostages to the powers that be. they will kill millions to retain control over us.



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 08:07 PM
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a reply to: Arpad

I truly am sorry for causing you additional pain...I don't know what you mean by "a suspect", but I swear I had no intention other than asking my question -

- And it honestly had not occurred to me that the asking 'in itself' could be harmful...

...but I do understand your not wanting to elaborate, and again, I'm very sincerely sorry that I didn't take into account the effect my post might have.



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa
The powers that be are the answer to whom is doing that stuff to alien adductees. They use th e technology given to them from the Romeo kilos in exchange for them being able to go about their own business un disturbed. WHo are they? they are humans except they live way longer. They dislike the way they experiment on us but have no choice in the matter because they still need what the powers that be have to offer.

WHy dont they you ask? Because we are all hostages to the powers that be. they will kill millions to retain control over us.

You state the above like it's fact. Are you a foreverman? Or do you just believe the backstory because it "feels right" to you?



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

There is a third option... he read the info regarding the tech, spoke to the source of the info and considered him to be truthful and made the considered decision, taking all available info into account, that it is truthful...

Just sayin' artificial parameters can mold answers...no? ETA just to show I can be a contrarian and agent of chaos on my own threads as well

; ]
edit on 11/7/2014 by Baddogma because: add... and either I misspelled 'contrarian' or my vocab is better than auto corrects... I suspect I am at fault



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 08:50 PM
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a reply to: Baddogma

That's why I'm askin' BigDog!



posted on Nov, 7 2014 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Bybyots


Screw this crap. You guys have managed to take something that people were enjoying and having fun with and twist it into making us into raving idiots too stupid to know we were played.


screw this crap indeed. look around, man. have you noticed that there are people following this thread who appear to have had traumatic experiences that they have now had framed for them by this rotten story?

they don't seem to be having much fun.




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