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Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

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posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: aynock

I invite you to dig deeper. I'm trying to help YOU out. but I'm not going to set up some physics lecture or try and waste my weekend trying to appease you by going through Harvard links, and military links, and piece it all together for you. Research those two areas, see where it may take you. If you understand what they are getting at.




posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 07:08 PM
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a reply to: Bybyots

Thanks. btw, my temporal lobes are a mess already.


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posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: ZetaRediculian

Are they? Or are you just being silly? Do you experience sleep paralysis or ocular/silent migraines? Anything like that?




posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 09:43 PM
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originally posted by: Bybyots
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

Are they? Or are you just being silly? Do you experience sleep paralysis or ocular/silent migraines? Anything like that?





Yes to all three. Let's see. I have had sleep paralysis episodes since I was 18 or so. They used be much more frequent then now. My last real full on episode was a few years ago. Typically, they start with the loud buzzing sound which envelops my whole being. I cant move obviously. Its disturbing and I usually try to break out of it by wiggling a finger or calling for help. that's when I start seeing people and having auditory hallucinations. its all very contextual, no entities or anything except for having a psychic battle with a demon once. You know, things flying across the room and that sense of presence. Don't piss me off because I will kick demon butt. I vaguely recall having something like a partial one recently but that turned into lucid dreaming if that makes sense.

As far as my migraines, I have had those since around the same time. They start out with a geometric line with a prism pattern in one side of my field of vision. My field of vision becomes divided and blurry where reading is impossible. It has happened while driving. not fun. lights become bright so sunglasses are helpful. When they occur, if i can, I turn out the lights, close my eyes and relax and observe the geometric patterns. They dont last long, maybe an hour? my last one occurred about a year ago and that one was a little odd. I was working on my laptop in bed, it was late and I noticed the line pattern but decided plow through and finish what I was working on. close one eye and just keep going. I was working on programming code so it involved a lot of logical thought which seemed to not be happening. That's when I had this flood of memories of things that never happened. It was like "oh yeah, but wait, that never happened" then it occurred to me these were memories of things that happened in my dreams. then it occurred to me that when Im having a dream and I "remember" something, I am really not remembering anything, I am just dreaming. So I think I tapped into some false memory dream generator while I was still awake or I was just plain confused. I was also discussing '___' entities here prior to this or at the same time which didn't help. I posted it on that thread too. I will look for it and see if my retelling has changed since.

how is that?



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posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 09:51 PM
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a reply to: ZetaRediculianshoot fire, and I said to myself I wouldn't reply again on this thread.
But you got me here, Zeta.
In general, I think you're describing cluster headaches, though you don't say you have one after the other, of brief duration.

That's not what interests me in your post anyway. Don't get me wrong. It's not that I'm not sympathetic, this sounds perfectly horrible. I'm sorry you experience this, as someone well acquainted with pain.



That's when I had this flood of memories of things that never happened. It was like "oh yeah, but wait, that never happened" then it occurred to me these were memories of things that happened in my dreams. then it occurred to me that when Im having a dream and I "remember" something, I am really not remembering anything, I am just dreaming. So I think I tapped into some false memory dream generator while I was still awake or I was just plain confused.

I am stunned, really, by this. So, you experience this, as well. Something or other seems to trigger it. But you respond to it differently than I, admittedly. Not that I'm not confused, or end up thinking it just plain didn't happen. But you are so sure of that, when it seems so very real to me, at the onset, that I can't quite throw out the window that it never really happened…..
tetra



posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 10:22 PM
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a reply to: ZetaRediculian

Same deal here, thanks.

When I was a kid I was convinced that i scared the hell out of "them", or at least made it too risky to hang around for long.

Thanks for sharing, I sincerely appreciate the story.




posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 10:42 PM
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a reply to: tetra50


I am stunned, really, by this. So, you experience this, as well. Something or other seems to trigger it. But you respond to it differently than I, admittedly. Not that I'm not confused, or end up thinking it just plain didn't happen. But you are so sure of that, when it seems so very real to me, at the onset, that I can't quite throw out the window that it never really happened…..

I never really had it diagnosed as a migraine since they are few and far between and seem rather mild. The only reason I say migraine is because my father has them and he described exactly the same thing only his seemed worse than mine. I really dont get a headache except for a mild dull one at the end. That memory thing just happened once.

Now I say "false" memory because that is what I believe. The memories themselves were fragmented and transient. When it was occurring, I really tried to focus on them and recall them but the experience faded fast. When I think back, I cant recall what the memories were.

So I have this fascination with false memories which started way before this episode. So if you read my postings, I think everything is a false memory or a hallucination of one sort another. Yeah, I know its annoying.

Here is a good article on false memory. Maybe it will give you insight into your experiences. www.nybooks.com...



posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: Bybyots

Yeah I have anger issues. Poor ghost demon thing, probably just wanted to play.



posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 10:58 PM
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a reply to: ZetaRediculian
maybe not. I'll check it out, tho. Mine is different. There is some kind of trigger, then a flood, as you described, all at once….but it immediately, within my vetting, seems real, as in taste, smell, every little nuance of a real atmosphere you've been in, all the ambient details, and how it feels to be there, in a gut sense of the word: FEELS.
And then I know what I was thinking as each thing happened…and how that physically and emotionally and cognitively felt, along with alll the other minutia I mention, which go along with a real experience….

But thanks for sharing. Who knows. But then, I said I saw a real black triangle, too, with no temporal lobe lability present at the time, that I recall…..
tetra
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posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 11:23 PM
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Yours do sound different. memory is really tricky. All I can say is that false memories have all the same qualities as real ones.

here, I found my post right when it happened. The post before this one I remember reading over and over while it was happening www.abovetopsecret.com...


...anyway, right in the middle of this discussion, I had this very weird migraine and reading this was causing me to go into some very bizarre spaces...almost hallucinatory. I had to actually put the computer down and walk away. It made me apprehensive enough to not even look at this thread until now.

But I did have some very good insights about false memories as I seemed to have had a flood of them. It was very late maybe 2 or 3 in the morning and despite my migraine, I kept working on a programming project and wham! It occurred to me that I have had several recurring false memories while I was dreaming but I couldn't be certain that they were recurring because they were false to begin with. That is the feeling that they were recurring was false also. It was like this dream world that I kept separate somehow merged with my waking reality. I really had to focus to know what was real for a few minutes



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posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 11:36 PM
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yes, but separate worlds is different than a false memory, isn't it. Then, it's just the memories weren't of what happened in this world, as opposed to another. but not that it didn't happen at all. See what I mean?

But I know what you're telling me. However, I doubt mine are really false, though they may be indicative of another rendition of the same place, or another place…but false, I totally doubt. There is too much to back them up later. However, the thing is, I find people hold me responsible for things I had nothing to do with, and then I'll get a memory of the event, but know it's been introduced, and might have happened with someone people have mistaken for me, and now I'm given the memory so it will be assumed it's me…..

freaky stuff…..
thanks zeta, for replying about this.
tetra



posted on Oct, 12 2014 @ 11:56 PM
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That sounds very strange. I really don't have an answer for you. Im not a psychologist even though I like to pretend to be one sometimes. I find if I start trying to interpret other peoples experiences, I just project my own personal beliefs into it. I don't think you are asking me to do that, im just reminding myself not to do that. I am starting to have empathy now and I hate that feeling.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 12:26 AM
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Sorry. I know what happened to me already was all too real. But I was still dumbfounded as to the trigger you experienced, and how you wrote about that, sorry. I do know, though, so no worries or need to psychoanalyze.
Zeta, I am so sorry you hate empathizing with someone. Forgive me for my LOL. Please. And have a good evening, devoid of empathy.
tetra



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 03:00 AM
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Yes this is old tech and your already uploaded. The worldwide mind has you! Wake up sheeple! Time travel and the nuking of ancient peoples and the seeding of current humans which are easily programed. Our bodies are containers to hold us in this 3d illusion.


The universe programmed by strings and we are in a matrix
www.youtube.com...

'Mind Uploading' & Digital Immortality May Be Reality By 2030 : Dr. Michio Kaku
www.youtube.com...

Nibiru Sumerian tablets Evil Wind destruction of Cities Ancient Atomic nuclear war?
www.youtube.com...

Atomic Warfare in Ancient India
www.youtube.com...

Scientists are Turning Light into Crystals--Essentially Creating "SOLID LIGHT"
www.youtube.com...

Physicists Are Making Solid Light .
www.youtube.com...

Time Travel In The Bible
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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 03:08 AM
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my problem is with your methodology - it's very easy to read up on science and tech subjects, get a few 'concepts' and start playing make believe with them - i don't want to waste my time doing that

if you had invited me to get a postgraduate qualification in physics and/or engineering and then spend the next ten years researching these areas in a real world context (like you presumably have), then i might believe you have a genuine interest in helping me understand these things

as it is i can't help but think you're peddling a pup, and i'm not in the market

if this is your best strategy for defending the story, doesn't it demonstrate how flimsy it is?
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posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 05:14 AM
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Here the truth is spilled by Michio about you being uploaded! Wake up sheeple! The worldwide mind has you!

Michio Kaku (2014) "The Future of the Mind"

www.youtube.com...



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: aynock

A thousand stars for you!

X

Deny ignorance
And deny those that "removed for T&C violations"
Beat ya to it Mod

What ever happened to 'pics or it didn't happen'

Juss saying I want pics, really really sexy pics of super cool craft that I aint seen before



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 01:27 PM
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"Pics or it didn't happen" is still around.

I just tend to weed out the ones that don't follow the rule, because typically, they're full of "it".



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 02:14 PM
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I actually respect you for your last post. And I can agree with your pragmatism. Although I ain't exactly running on wild ideas from some stuff I read and went "what if." You could say I've been guided every now and then, encouraged more like it, to look into certain areas. Turned out the people knew what they were talking about.

I am just trying to point one of the members in a direction that may be fruitful research wise. The technology has nothing to do with RK spaceships, just cutting edge stuff the military is doing right now.

As far as selling a story or defending it, I need to clear something up once and for all. All my involvement with this RK mess is that I saw something strange. A very classified and very exotic military platform. A guy predicted I would see it again very soon and I did and I excitedly wrote about it. I am not defending his story. I am not part of some RK cult. I don't even believe the story. I do believe he was some one who some how had gained lot of inside knowledge (either as an insider or just by being very cleaver) and had to cover his tracks with a lot of BS. the old 25/75 rule. Maybe even got himself into a little trouble.

As far as my interest in the Triangles it is to try and figure out their mission, and to wrap my head around better what it was I saw. How they work, what they do. Trust me if you saw it you would want to solve the puzzle too. It ain't easy but I've made a lot of headway. And maybe have had a lot of confirmation. I can tell you there are people on this website who are in the know when it comes to these sort of things. And if you take the time to follow the clues in a lot of the threads and read between the lines and put it all together you will see a whole lot of accuracy and a stunning picture of what's really going on out there in our sky's - the emerging technology is phenomenal. I can tell you the reports on the Weird California Sighting thread are dead on and are about a very real and spectacular bird the US has flying. Follow the clues and you too can see what we are all talking about. I did and it was VERY fruitful. try it, can't hurt right?

As far as me selling a load of what bulls leave in the pasture after the rain. Seems like you have me pegged as a liar or a weird guy who is just overly enthusiastic. I can't change your opinion of me. But I saw what I saw, and if you saw it too you would be very intrigued and enthusiastic too. I am in the firm stance that what I saw was US military- built by a well known corporation that's very good at what they do. If I'm gunna join any cult it would be Lockheed and Boeing are the shiznit cult.



posted on Oct, 13 2014 @ 02:27 PM
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And have a good evening, devoid of empathy.
tetra

I like that. Live long and prosper.




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