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Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

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posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear



From what I know of standard physics.. there is no such thing as a truly closed system, not even necessarily the universe.


What is "standard physics"?

You haven't been to school for quite some time, have you, Kev. Just IT, huh?

There's such a thing as a closed system.




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posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 11:04 AM
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a reply to: The GUT

the texas and/or kansas pics mentioned in the post before mine - but maybe someone who follows that forum more closely might have a better idea



posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: The GUT

this thread is possibly relevant too:

Weird California sighting



posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 12:54 PM
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originally posted by: aynock
a reply to: The GUT

this thread is possibly relevant too:

Weird California sighting


If we're posting relevant threads may include the one where the original op stated several facts that he didn't believe in ufos during a time he was supposedly flying them lol

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posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: Bybyots

Sure on the macro non-quanrum scale.
But the macro scale is just some foam
bouncing around on an unbounded 'bulk'
(a term from M quantum theory).

'closed' is an illusion of locality, and Bell's
theorem and newer verified work conclusively
demonstrates there is no such thing as
locality. ...so by definition there can be no
purely 'closed systems'. This is quite basic.

Of course some folks would rather heckle
than actually communicate.

Btw....I'm not interested in posting replies
to certain people...so I'll leave any posts
without rationality or decorum unanswered
going forward. No amount of 'teasing'
(T & C skirting harassment) will alter my
stated policy in such cases. Hopefully these
won't happen anymore. I don't prefer doing
this.

Kev

Kev



posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: Jenisiz

That's quite the entertaining observation!!

Kev



posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: Jenisiz

if his story is true they wouldn't be unidentified - and he would be sceptical about 'flying saucers' because he knew they were 'triangles'



posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: aynock

This one hundred times.


Do I believe the mysterious story? Some of the tech parts, sure. But if he had just made an account and on the first post said, "hey guys, I'm directly involved in the secret space program and I'm gonna spill a bean or too" then no one would have even looked at his story in the first place.

Whether or not it's fiction he needed to establish some presence and credibility, in the aviation forum at least.
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posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 04:08 PM
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Well this has all been explained to my satisfaction. I want to thank everyone for their input, even Bybyots.






posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 04:57 PM
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a reply to: ZetaRediculian

Your comment made me smile;
I will also take that as my cue to
exit stage left even.

I also thank BadDogma and the rest of
my 'Ats family' for the stimulating and
thought provoking (and investigative)
commentary, to include Bybots. He
and I are probably more similar than
different.

Kev



posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear



He and I are probably more similar than different.


Never fails to freak me out.




posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 05:44 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear


He and I are probably more similar than
different.


well, im like neither of you.

chr


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posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: aynock

contributions in this thread however may be more telling:

aliens mutilated her cows



posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: aynock
More great work. So: The Lone Hoaxer or Black Bagged and Psy-Op'ed or Meme Project? Hard to come up with any other options that make much sense.



posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 08:01 PM
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[Reply=18518568]aynock[/post]

Exactly. Not to mention a break away civilization wouldn't be too happy with the fact that extraterrestrials are abducting their forever men or causing a ruckus. A civilization so advanced would easily have the means to fight back and would do so as a means to protect their people planet and resources.

It's continuously mentioned that the physics are sound from his story which is actually quite false. I can tell you that it's very easy to calculate what he calls jump points using a pencil and paper as we did predictive shuttle/satellite course plotting in Astrophysics. in addition the way the craft moved would not be silently. Another physics-based argument that he makes which is completely false.

As others have suggested, I will exit the stage as well but will keep my ears open in case anyone has further questions to be addressed.

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posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 08:29 PM
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a reply to: Jenisiz

the question for me was never 'is the story true'? or even 'is it remotely plausible'? rather 'why is it being pushed'?

maybe i was giving the pushers more credit than they deserved



posted on Oct, 10 2014 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

the post history paints a pretty consistent picture - i've got a few thoughts but i'd prefer to keep them to myself (they would mostly be against t&c anyway)



posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 03:59 AM
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originally posted by: aynock
a reply to: Jenisiz

the question for me was never 'is the story true'? or even 'is it remotely plausible'? rather 'why is it being pushed'?

maybe i was giving the pushers more credit than they deserved


A form of personality disorder/classic unitarianism. Story was fabricated to strengthen and convert others to what the op wanted to make truth. They had no personal proof so they cherry picked and used to strengthen an opinion they strongly believe is truth and no route or limit on lies can be enforced.. Similar to a self made prophecy.



posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 10:28 AM
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List of things I had to (re)-learn about since the claims as most of my info was either wrong or out of date.

Brittle Ceramics
Meta Materials
The effect of gravity on crystaline growth
EM control and resonance
Vacuum Airships
Phase Locking
Plasma and its many, many uses -antenna, chaffe, fluid control buffer, effects on organics etc etc.
Sneaky Pete to the X47B and the dozens of barely mentioned (outside of aviation circles) yet exciting technologies they employ
Project Orion
Directed Energy Weapons and their disclosure
Disinformation techniques employed by current and former ITK's with a purpose.
Parallels between occult cults and UFOlogy (both real and in theory) and their application in psychological warfare

Sort of enjoyable if viewed as a wake up to what is possible- technology-wise.
Thoroughly un-rewarding if any of the esoteric claims are pursued-but you cant say we werent warned!!




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posted on Oct, 11 2014 @ 10:51 AM
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I'd add phase conjugation resonance both optical and microwave. Unless phase locking was a reference to that. Also, research super cooled cesium and light. and then imagine running a phased conjugate through that and all the voodoo that will do.



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