a reply to: Jenisiz
Hey there Jenisiz:
He separated those he felt he could manipulate away from the public. This serves two purposes, first it makes them feel privileged and second, it
doesn't open him up for scrutiny. This is seriously a text book case and it's alarming how many individuals are buying into it.
First, I certainly didn't feel privileged in any way, when I got his U2U. What I mean is, first he told me I'd unknowingly hit on the secret to
everything: Energy. My immediate reply was what made him think I was unknowing….lol. As for scrutiny, I immediately went to his profile to check
him out at least that far, on ATS. My point is, regardless of the reactions on this thread, I think you should give the members here a little more
credit. This is a fairly scrutinizing environment and community. What I think is going on here, producing the reaction is that it's a simple case
of most want to believe that there is such technology making all this possible, and perhaps more importantly, want the hope of another habitable
For starters, he's setting a standard that it's ok to not provide proof for wild claims and that if there is any proof, it's ok to send it via pm
to a select few who will come back to the forum thread and vogue for it. What this ex member has done is completely go against legit and determined
truth seekers by letting everyone on this forum know it's ok to make wild claims with zero proof and to manipulate members into a mass hysteria.
He hasn't had that great an effect. This is one of the hardest places in the world, really, to do what you're saying, here. Wild claims are made
on these boards all day and all night long, lol. And they're shot down just as quickly.
Hell, believeable claims with valid and sourced information to back them up are shot down here.
And I think many he contacted are known as legit and determined truth seekers….this may be why and how he chose whom he did. And maybe it was just
random; I don't know---perhaps some of both. I don't think he "chose" out of malleability, certainly. And I've read this whole thread and
don't see any mass hysteria….lol.
Personally, I think some of what he did was outright baiting, telling other people's stories, frankly, to get them to start talking when they
weren't. The difficult and uncomfortable fact
is many UFO experiencers don't talk about it because we are well aware
that we do
not have and never will, any proof.
Though this will remain to be the case, I, personally, am not about to get hysterical over it. I feel the
same now about that as I did before he showed up; his appearance and information neither clarified anything for me, nor muddied the issue any more
than it ever was.
I'd also like to mention my reaction to the info he gave me about using the sleeping population for computational energy was exactly what Tadaman's
has been: Angry. As in, how dare you, angry. And I said as much to him, immediately. You know, it's not so much the use of the energy. It's
that they were seeding our dreams.
If I'm emitting an energy, no big deal if you want to soak it up and use it. But causing me to have that energy, like piping something into my mind,
is a whole different issue and absolutely not okay whatsoever. Someone mentioned that our use, in this way, made us part of the solution and saving
humanity. Certainly I was never given enough information that I could believe that in any way, either. But this was my thought about that, which,
if accurate, would be a small piece of independent corroboration of his account---perhaps that would explain another possible reason for Agenda 21 in
the sense of getting population centered in urban, totally controlled areas. It would then be very easy for the RK folks in their black flying
triangles to seed dreams and reap energy.
In terms of my own experience, which I'd had before finding this website, I have always been very careful what I read and write on this site. The
point of that is were I to ever "report," in any way what my experience has been, no one could ever say to me, "well, you just read that on so and
so's thread." Conversely, I also don't talk that much about my own experience, and that is partly why I either don't talk about it or am very
careful about whom I discuss it with.
Valuable details in some contactees stories are now tampared through his suggestive comments.
Not in my case, as there is still a lot I haven't read and probably won't, for that very reason. But this has become the Catch 22 for learning,
searching and researching for info: In doing so, those valuable details you speak of too easily become tainted by not only suggestive comments from
others, but plagiarized, repeated, etc, and often when they are repeated, it will be skewed, purposefully, and blurred and all that done in such a way
or by an unreliable, non-credible source, so as to throw all the accounts into a questionable and/or unbelieveable light.
...now they were taken to clone for instant communication purposes and that they somehow see the future and predict when the original copy is in
danger to swoop in and save them...
Actually, what he did here was to repeat the plot, theme of several science fiction novels. Lol. Brings to mind, for me, Frank Herbert's and another
writer's "Destination Void," but there are many with the clone, A/I, mission to save humanity theme/plot, so if that muddies the waters or taints
the details of accounts, everyone was screwed a long time ago….
With all due respect to Jacques Vallee, he is a researcher of the phenomena. Mr. Noname is more along the lines of a reporter of experience, or
experiencer, himself. This is an important distinguishing factor when considering anyone and anyone's information. Where such is reported and
discussed is important for perspective, as well. Vallee has written several books, studied the phenomena of reports, given lectures, become an expert
and reached conclusions more from a psychological/sociological aspect then a scientific one…. but regardless, they still come from a different
perspective, so I'm not sure it's a comparable situation enough to apply it that way. Vallee doesn't have a "story" as an experiencer.