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Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

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posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 05:34 PM
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a reply to: rowanflame

sure, but

Rome wasnt destroyed by barbarians for example. It destroyed itself LONG before it was sacked.

It is always going to be a battle. Its not until the Barbarians were given education and civilization that they became the heads of the EU....Just saying.

If one thinks that there is anything setting a civilized man apart form an uncivilized man except knowledge then that person has much to learn yet.

Its usually the sense of superiority and arrogance of the civilized world that "sacks" the natural world and itself.
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posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 05:43 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

Ancient Greece was destroyed from within also (like is happening in Europe today), the Greek poet Theognis wrote a poem telling us how the glory's of ancient Greece would be soon no more, the poem is called "Eugenics". My guess is same thing that destroyed ancient Greece also destroyed Rome



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 05:46 PM
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a reply to: rowanflame

Yes sir. You are right. You can bet that the same fate awaits any seed world if the hard questions arent answered and the difficult problems arent corrected first. They will just export a pure sampling of filth to a pristine universe.

I say go and be quick about it. Just dont dare to come back. We barbarians will do better once we dont have the heavy hand of useless people beating us for greater rations of food, tribute and comfort.

When we reach the stars we will be better than them in every way. They may get there sooner, but we will go farther and last longer.

EDIT TO ADD:
What is pure blood with an impure heart at its core? The flesh with a common mother is no less pure in blood between different children but for the hearts that pump its flow.
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posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:01 PM
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That's pretty ballsy to go over one of the densest populated areas around. Maybe that's the point---it is so low and fast that nobody looks up and expects the Spanish Inquisition.
a reply to: mbkennel

Probably better hunting in one of the many ATS threads concerning Norse legend.
Edwards airforce base used to be named Mu roc.



he has two ravens Huginn and Muninn (Thought and Memory), who fly around Earth daily and report the happenings of the world to Odin in Valhalla at night.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

All that secret WW2 über tech we talk about on ATS.

"Breakaway Civilization" is real in a sense, Compartmentalized knowledge Paradise ranch style.
Their "house" so its not open for debate.



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:11 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

Your last few posts Tadaman, remind of a quote by William D. Tammeus.

“You don't really understand human nature unless you know why a child on a merry-go-round will wave at his parents every time around - and why his parents will always wave back.”

These people, who willing took part and kept this secret from the rest of the world...

Well...if he who shall not be named is telling the truth - he would be the only one who was true to his human nature. He waved.

CdT

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posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:13 PM
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I have just been to my PM inbox and noticed that there are a whole lot of PMs that have disappeared. They were there earlier this week, but now are gone. I know, for a fact, that I didn't delete them, as they were juicy tidbits. How very odd.



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

When it comes to building a civilization its brains that count, not a loving heart. My dog has a loving heart, it wags it tail and licks me when it sees me, it would defend me too if an attacker approached me but for all its loving heart it will never say the A,B,C,D

This black triangle, the people that built it likewise would have taken brain power not a loving heart, barbarians BTW are not known for having a loving heart either so they lose both ways !



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: rowanflame

and when it comes to preserving a civilization without heart none will last.

Without heart to mediate between head and hands, hands will destroy what the head builds.

You can justify it, but that same arrogance and sense of superiority is what they will take with them and find among themselves eventually. All it takes for that to show is a single hardship in differences.

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I guess you have never suffered with someone and shared misery. There is no greater love. There is no greater intelligence. A logical person lays down to die in the face of insurmountable hardship and especially lets die. A loving person perseveres and picks himself up and anyone else along the way.

Where do you think Humanity found the strength and mind to rebuild what was supposedly lost? Who do you think did that? Those that lost everything or those that had everything to gain?

I am a barbarian sir. I am not dumb.


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posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: CirqueDeTruth

Please refrain from further use of any alleged members names. One mod has already stated this and can get the thread shutdown.

There are many accounts of "whistle blowers" out there, its up to the listeners to listen and at least do some digging before drawing a conclusion. They always said the truth is stranger than fiction and even this story that has developed is as far out there as any religion I've ever looked into.




posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:57 PM
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Dont know if this has been mentioned, but I watched this video lecture with Richard Dolan....quite interesting. Especially at around 00:50:00 mins....

"The Secret Space Program and Breakaway Civilization" - Richard Dolan Lecture .
www.youtube.com...



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 06:57 PM
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originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: rowanflame


Where do you think Humanity found the strength and mind to rebuild what was supposedly lost? Who do you think did that? Those that lost everything or those that had everything to gain?

I am a barbarian sir. I am not dumb.



Whoever (assuming any of this is true) built this craft had high IQs I would imagine, Scientists / Engineers, the cream of the crop as they say !

Who did it, I guess you speak of who did this in ancient times? As far as I know there was a great war which lasted ten years between barbarians and civilized, it was ended with the use of an ancient weapon which resulted in both sides loosing and being sent back to the stone age



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 07:02 PM
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The way I heard it was that the civilized fought civilized over the right to rule. They didn't like the bull...They thought themselves as smart as they saw the world dumb. Dangerous mix. They didn't take to HEART their own warnings and laws and did the logical thing in order to defeat an impossible enemy that rallied the hordes into a war not their own. A war of Gods which caused much suffering to their servants and the whole world. The "civilized" lost everything as a result. Out of arrogance and hatred the infighting brought an end for all. If true of coarse.

History will repeat itself. We wont be fooled again though. Humanity already has fire and the sword. The war of Gods will be fought on Olympus alone this time around.

And as far as pooled talent that supposedly built the triangles: How many of these engineers, technicians, specialists and such had ancestors farming or laboring in mines, soldiering or fishing for a living a couple hundred years ago...?

The chance that all these brilliant people who supposedly built the triangles came from "superior" stock is so small that its absurd to even consider.


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posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

You will find all such people involved in these black projects are the very top level in their fields, they are "spotted" at University and invited to go on a secret adventure, some ofcourse regret being involved and all the secrecy, danger and stress it brings but they all have the same thing in common, they were invited because of their brains not heart.

The war was over the long life span the civilized had which was several times that of the barbarians. The barbarians wanted the same though the civilized would not give them the technology, the argument descended into war eventually.



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: Wookiep

I have some catching up to do... but as far as the 75-25%... he said most of what he had said in the forums was that ratio of truth to bullpoop for protection...and that it was a common method for spilling secret beans... however, he PM'd me that he would answer any questions with 100% accuracy right before putting up that final ...story.

I also want to stress that I frequently tangle up parts of the narrative (in most things, thus why I was a perfect prospective journalist) and want to urge those not familiar to read it yourself as my 'condensed version' doesn't do it justice.



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: rowanflame



History will repeat itself. We wont be fooled again though. Humanity already has fire and the sword. The war of Gods will be fought on Olympus alone this time around.



"Then we needed our own refuge in deep space, our own home. It was a chance find by USS Neptune that lead us to our perfect home. We named her Olympus. "

Maybe this time there will be no war because the Gods will not give the barbarians the fire of the Gods, fire in the wrong hands is dangerous



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 07:40 PM
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a reply to: Cauliflower

Yes to (unfortunately too rare) beautiful human minds everywhere... but Ancient Greece had its standouts, or we simply have more records... and as far as that compass on Edwards AFB... care to elaborate further? I'm thick when fresh off work... and just get thicker.

I get the feeling you might be another with a wealth of info squished into their grey matter... there are a few on this site... and they are ALL cordially invited to gulp the scopolamine cocktails and get in their orange jumpsuits (or worse) in style, squawking like ... pigeons.

ETA: and (to save room) Tajlakz... that was funny... though it took me e sec, being thick... I had missed that post by Him.


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posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 07:44 PM
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And I ask again...how many of these brilliant minds came from what was soldiering, farming, or general labor stock?

The heart sir, is the memory of the mind. It is the source of source. Without it one is only a shell waiting to crumble whose dust fills all forms.

The in fighting has already begun. Who gets to go, who must stay? Who is the task master, who the cup bearer?

We are all divine. We are all gods. We know it. Our heart does not lie.

The war was over ambition. Who should rule? Who is slighted? Who´s age is in succession to who´s that is rising?
Who keeps track of the cycles, who sets destiny on its coarse?

Fate sir. It is fate that we will reach the stars. It is the destiny of false gods to fall.

We hold both the sword of mars and the scepter of Zeus.

Prometheus has already arrived and Marduk has already placed the secret of steel in our hands. There is nothing new to this cycle and it is at its end. Like all things the end mirrors the birth before its passing.

I will also say this.

When has the possibility of regaining the lost knowledge been greatest? When ALL of man was given respite from his labor. When humanities leisure was increased was when wonders came into being. In all the ages since the fall, under the leadership of all the princes since, never has the world changed from the misery it fell to. NOW, now that humanity is nearer to being one is the world changing. We would still be fighting over lies as we are asked to still if the princes of the land had never seen that the key to ascension lies not in their self declared wondrous minds but in the heart of all of humanity.


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posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: rowanflame

but they will not need to. They will however stubbornly follow the same path...hearts full of pride even when faced with oblivion.

They will become death once again. They will become the destroyer of worlds one last time.

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posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: one4all




Breakaway ROUGE Civilisation which is Humanitys greatest ENEMY sounds more accurate.


Now, I'm not one to usually pick on misspellings, as I am king of poor grammar, bad spelling and ofttimes inadvertent malapropisms... but a civilization of lipstick wearers being our greatest enemy created quite the mental pic.

And as far as the ol' RKers and their morality or lack thereof... I have run some complex viewpoints around my noggin when running the "suppose its true?" scenario... and sometimes end up agreeing... sometimes not.

But if they do utilize our common inheritance to leave us to the wolves we let rule us... I will be ...sad.



posted on Sep, 30 2014 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: Baddogma

Wolves become house dogs and sadness reveals the greatest joys.



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